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Post by leafs27 on Aug 18, 2020 22:53:57 GMT
Honestly, I think they are trying to gaslight Sami here. I think Nicole manipulated all of this. Wtf is Eric talking about Sami going to far?!
Jeez Nicole stole Sami’s baby! I don’t blame her for not wanting Nicole around the baby.
John’s reaction was so severe!
Honestly I’m very surprised at the way they are doing this. Sami is ridiculous most of the time but I actually don’t think she’s all that wrong here.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Aug 19, 2020 0:35:57 GMT
Just based on the clips I saw in the preview, it honestly looks like they're trying to stir up old drama for the sake playing they're greatest hits. - Discord with Nicole? ✔
- Baby drama involving Sami? ✔
- Drama between Sami and John, because "John's not Sami's father"? ✔ ✔ ✔
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 19, 2020 17:19:40 GMT
Yes they're doing all of this.
But if you watch how it's playing out, everyone is just railing against Sami and advocating/siding with Nicole.
This is making me think Nicole planted the letter from Allie. Which I think would be a good twist and a good way to break up Eric and Nicole since Eric is leaving in September.
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Post by flyboyla on Aug 19, 2020 18:32:04 GMT
I tend to agree this is Nicole’s master plan and it will backfire on her and Eric will leave her....again. So, is Brady going to fall into her trap again? They seem to always go that route when Eric leaves.
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 19, 2020 19:59:35 GMT
I can't see how they will break up Eric and Nicole or keep Nicole around with Eric offscreen and her tied to him still. Something has to give.
Everyone keeps saying Brady and Chloe? Or maybe a Brady/Chloe/Philip/Nicole quad??? Xander and Sarah and Philip are supposed to interact I thought...who frickin knows.
Nicole and Rafe would be a good pairing, I think.
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Post by bookworm on Aug 20, 2020 6:10:41 GMT
I'm a day behind, but I haven't seen anything to suggest Nicole manipulated Allie or forged the letter. I know Sami hates Nicole, but Allie is an adult, and it seems Eric and Nicole are just trying to respect her wishes. Sami and Nicole have both done horrible things in the past, but in my opinion Nicole seems to have grown and matured in a way that Sami hasn't. I don't think John needed to be such a jerk to Sami, but I agree with what he said. Sami always comes across as selfish and never thinks about other people's wishes. I wish the show would develop her character rather than always have her acting that way.
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 20, 2020 14:29:40 GMT
I guess I just see it differently. My main thoughts as to why I think Nicole is manipulating Allie:
- Everyone is against Sami, she has zero supporters, therefore it's making Sami appear irrational and selfish
- the stuff Allie wrote in the letter praising Eric was super over the top
- Nicole is very adamant that they have the baby, and has influenced Eric's initial approach to this - he has now become as aggressive as Sami to state his case
- Eric is leaving in September and Nicole is not. They likely won't keep them together so there has to be a reason for Eric to leave Nicole. What could that be?
Anyway, just my thoughts. I agree Sami is too much and never learns but I would actually like her to be on the right side for a change with this one. I love Nicole but she's changed so much and I prefer her snarky and shades of grey. Righteous Nicole is boring!
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Post by bookworm on Aug 21, 2020 4:30:55 GMT
Those are all good points, leafs. We'll see what happens in the coming days. I think Nicole is much more likeable now, but I agree that she does get boring at times. And it wasn't that long ago that she hid the truth about Eric being the father of Sarah's baby from him, so maybe she hasn't actually changed that much.
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 21, 2020 17:20:19 GMT
I'm curious to see how it all unfolds at any rate. And I do hope that it's not Sami having to fix everything for a change.
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Post by flyboyla on Aug 21, 2020 18:01:26 GMT
The writing for Nicole is so inconsistent. I really loved it when she was retaliating against Kristen when she “actually” returned. Nicole needs to be feisty. That’s why I don’t care for Greg Vaughn’s version of Eric. He drags Nicole down into dullsville. That’s why I prefer her with Brady. I really don’t want to see her paired with Rafe. That would be even worse. Nicole needs her spunk back.
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 21, 2020 18:59:03 GMT
From what I have read it's looking like Nicole will be paired with either Rafe or Lucas since Philip is for Chloe and Brady is likely sticking with Kristen for now.
I can only assume they are also going to try to break up Chad and Abigail, but there won't be anyone on the show for her if they do that since her and Jake would be weird.
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Post by leafs27 on Aug 28, 2020 14:11:42 GMT
Well. After Thursday's episode, I am more convinced than ever that this is some kind of grand plan by Nicole. The look on Sami's face when Eric lied to the judge...wow. Then Eric telling Sami that she has no one on her side, that was harsh. Why isn't Lucas helping Sami?
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