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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 13, 2022 17:39:11 GMT
I was looking at the posters for this and thinking—wow, it’s not an especially starry cast, is it? moviemouth pointed this out way back in August and I responded that the Ustinov Death on the Nile was less starry than the Finney Murder on the Orient Express, but even with that said this cast has surprisingly few big names. The ’78 DotN did have Ustinov, Jane Birkin, Bette Davis, Mia Farrow, Olivia Hussey, Angela Lansbury, David Niven, and Maggie Smith—all at least well known—after all. This version has…mostly Wonder Woman. I mean, Armie Hammer is a good actor but not, I think, super-famous before the allegations, and while Russell Brand is known he’s not a major movie star. I like Annette Benning, but…compared with the over-the-top-ness of Bette Davis? Who else? French and Saunders? For that matter, this version isn’t that much starrier than the 2004 David Suchet TV adaptation, which had (admittedly pre-fame) Emily Blunt, James Fox, and Frances de la Tour. That doesn’t mean, of course, it won’t be good—I certainly hope it is. But it seems a bit odd.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 13, 2022 17:49:24 GMT
Yes I do recall that one standing out - (Edit _ I read almost all her novels in my early teens) archaological dig setting? Can't recall the solution but yes - make a movie of that - or DEATH IN THE CLOUDS or PERIL AT END HOUSE or THEY CAME TO BAGDAD. There hasnt been an English Language ROGER ACKROYD movie since 1931 (we got a Russian one in 2002) Right, archaeological dig setting. I have a weakness for anything archaeological, especially if it’s set in the ’20s or ’30s. As great as Roger Ackroyd is, making it into a movie would be hard for…reasons. The Suchet show tried and kind of butchered it, but even without making the inexplicable choices that screenwriter did I’m not sure how to go about adapting it. Speaking of those Austin Trevor Poirot movies, someone posted a copy of the ’34 Lord Edgware Dies adaptation to YouTube. Not a particularly good film, but interesting to watch, especially as it got reported as lost in quite a few places. (The other Trevor Poirots are, apparently, lost.)
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Post by leesilm on Jan 13, 2022 18:35:57 GMT
Still looking forward to seeing the movie though. I enjoyed the first one, even wrote fanfiction for it. You mean, Branagh's last Hercule Poirot movie. I enjoyed it but was kind of hoping the resolution would had been handled different. Am still looking forward to the Death of the Nile movie. Wrote fanfic for Murder on the Orient (mostly, I added a character and gave backstory to everyone- esp. Marquez) Would love for them to adapt books that haven't already had 3-4 adaptations, or even ones that have only ever been stage plays but never movies/series.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 13, 2022 19:05:57 GMT
I was looking at the posters for this and thinking—wow, it’s not an especially starry cast, is it? moviemouth pointed this out way back in August and I responded that the Ustinov Death on the Nile was less starry than the Finney Murder on the Orient Express, but even with that said this cast has surprisingly few big names. The ’78 DotN did have Ustinov, Jane Birkin, Bette Davis, Mia Farrow, Olivia Hussey, Angela Lansbury, David Niven, and Maggie Smith—all at least well known—after all. This version has…mostly Wonder Woman. I mean, Armie Hammer is a good actor but not, I think, super-famous before the allegations, and while Russell Brand is known he’s not a major movie star. I like Annette Benning, but…compared with the over-the-top-ness of Bette Davis? Who else? French and Saunders? For that matter, this version isn’t that much starrier than the 2004 David Suchet TV adaptation, which had (admittedly pre-fame) Emily Blunt, James Fox, and Frances de la Tour. That doesn’t mean, of course, it won’t be good—I certainly hope it is. But it seems a bit odd. I don't know who Jane Birkin is.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 13, 2022 19:12:39 GMT
I was looking at the posters for this and thinking—wow, it’s not an especially starry cast, is it? moviemouth pointed this out way back in August and I responded that the Ustinov Death on the Nile was less starry than the Finney Murder on the Orient Express, but even with that said this cast has surprisingly few big names. The ’78 DotN did have Ustinov, Jane Birkin, Bette Davis, Mia Farrow, Olivia Hussey, Angela Lansbury, David Niven, and Maggie Smith—all at least well known—after all. This version has…mostly Wonder Woman. I mean, Armie Hammer is a good actor but not, I think, super-famous before the allegations, and while Russell Brand is known he’s not a major movie star. I like Annette Benning, but…compared with the over-the-top-ness of Bette Davis? Who else? French and Saunders? For that matter, this version isn’t that much starrier than the 2004 David Suchet TV adaptation, which had (admittedly pre-fame) Emily Blunt, James Fox, and Frances de la Tour. That doesn’t mean, of course, it won’t be good—I certainly hope it is. But it seems a bit odd. I don't know who Jane Birkin is. Mrs. Serge Gainsbourg? Also, memorably, in Evil Under the Sun? No big deal, of course. And fair point that people I consider famous other people may not consider famous.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 13, 2022 19:39:02 GMT
I don't know who Jane Birkin is. Mrs. Serge Gainsbourg? Also, memorably, in Evil Under the Sun? No big deal, of course. And fair point that people I consider famous other people may not consider famous. I might recognize her if I saw her and I have seen Evil Under the Sun, but I haven't heard the name. For Branagh's version I know Sophie Okonedo (Oscar nominee) and Russell Brand and the actors you meantioned. Annette Benning towers over the rest of that cast in terms of talent imo. I also like her more than every actor in the 1978 Death on the Nile, besides Bette Davis.
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Post by timshelboy on Jan 13, 2022 21:25:35 GMT
Mrs. Serge Gainsbourg? Also, memorably, in Evil Under the Sun? No big deal, of course. And fair point that people I consider famous other people may not consider famous. I might recognize her if I saw her and I have seen Evil Under the Sun, but I haven't heard the name.
For Branagh's version I know Sophie Okonado (Oscar nominee) and Russell Brand and the actors you meantioned. Annette Benning towers over the rest of that cast in terms of talent imo. I also like her more than every actor in the 1978 Death on the Nile, besides Bette Davis. You may not recognise her face but I'm sure you have heard her I think I prefer Annette to everyone but Maggie Smith
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 13, 2022 21:33:43 GMT
I might recognize her if I saw her and I have seen Evil Under the Sun, but I haven't heard the name.
For Branagh's version I know Sophie Okonado (Oscar nominee) and Russell Brand and the actors you meantioned. Annette Benning towers over the rest of that cast in terms of talent imo. I also like her more than every actor in the 1978 Death on the Nile, besides Bette Davis. You may not recognise her face but I'm sure you have heard her I think I prefer Annette to everyone but Maggie Smith I don't recognize that song or her voice in it. Why did you think I would recognize it?
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Post by timshelboy on Jan 13, 2022 21:46:56 GMT
You may not recognise her face but I'm sure you have heard her I think I prefer Annette to everyone but Maggie Smith I don't recognize that song or her voice in it. Is she known as a singer more than an actress? I'm guessing you much younger than me ! That song and a bit in the film BLOW UP made her name in the late 60s (although she had already married and divorced Bond composer John Barry by age 20) . She is probably better known now as an actress - has had a long and successful career in France - DADDY NOSTALGIE and a couple for Jacques Rivette, she worked with Resnais, Agnes Varda ..... the Agatha Christie films were probably her highest profile Hollywood efforts. And as Charlotte Gansbourg's mum!
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 13, 2022 21:49:34 GMT
I don't recognize that song or her voice in it. Is she known as a singer more than an actress? I'm guessing you much younger than me !
That song and a bit in the film BLOW UP made her name in the late 60s (although she had already married and divorced Bond composer John Barry by age 20) . She is probably better known now as an actress - has had a long and successful career in France - DADDY NOSTALGIE and a couple for Jacques Rivette, she worked with Resnais, Agnes Varda ..... the Agatha Christie films were probably her highest profile Hollywood efforts. And as Charlotte Gansbourg's mum! I am 38. Looking through her films, the only movies she has been in that I have seen are Blow-Up, Twice Born, Evil Under the Sun and Death on the Nile. I haven't even heard of any of her other movies. That doesn't mean they aren't famous movies obviously, just that I am unfamiliar with them. I recognize some of the names of the directors you listed, but only vaguely. I definitely know who Charlotte Gainsbourg is.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 13, 2022 22:23:02 GMT
Just to be clear, my point had nothing to do with Annette Benning vs. Bette Davis on acting ability, or likability, or anything like that. It was just on name recognition.
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Post by timshelboy on Jan 14, 2022 9:45:42 GMT
I'm guessing you much younger than me !
That song and a bit in the film BLOW UP made her name in the late 60s (although she had already married and divorced Bond composer John Barry by age 20) . She is probably better known now as an actress - has had a long and successful career in France - DADDY NOSTALGIE and a couple for Jacques Rivette, she worked with Resnais, Agnes Varda ..... the Agatha Christie films were probably her highest profile Hollywood efforts. And as Charlotte Gansbourg's mum! I am 38. Looking through her films, the only movies she has been in that I have seen are Blow-Up, Twice Born, Evil Under the Sun and Death on the Nile. I haven't even heard of any of her other movies. That doesn't mean they aren't famous movies obviously, just that I am unfamiliar with them. I recognize some of the names of the directors you listed, but only vaguely. I definitely know who Charlotte Gainsbourg is. I am 60 (and UK based) - to anyone of my vintage that song would have been heard at age 9 (and I think was maybe banned on BBC) and left a lasting impression.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 7, 2022 17:08:23 GMT
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Post by spooner5020 on Feb 7, 2022 18:22:03 GMT
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 7, 2022 22:23:28 GMT
I'm all set to see it Friday night.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 7, 2022 23:04:10 GMT
I'll watch although the 78 version was fine I do wish they;d film one that hasn't been filmed yet - Producersb seem to return to the same handful to film. She wrote 80 something novels. No it is not a "sequel" to MOTOE - they are both standalone stories with the same detective character DEATH COMES AS THE END - set in ancient Egypt at time of Pharaohs - would be my next choice of Christie novels to film for Branagh. Not sure why film's success/failure will be attributed to Gadot - she is one of a dozen star names and the first character to croak Actually DEATH COMES AS THE END is being turned into a TV mini-series.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 7, 2022 23:05:59 GMT
I'll watch although the 78 version was fine I do wish they;d film one that hasn't been filmed yet - Producersb seem to return to the same handful to film. She wrote 80 something novels. No it is not a "sequel" to MOTOE - they are both standalone stories with the same detective character DEATH COMES AS THE END - set in ancient Egypt at time of Pharaohs - would be my next choice of Christie novels to film for Branagh. Not sure why film's success/failure will be attributed to Gadot - she is one of a dozen star names and the first character to croak I still want to see a Murder in Mesopotamia adaptation. There’s something about the solution that’s pretty unbelievable, which I think is why it’s never been made into a movie, but that unbelievable thing isn’t hard to fix. And it’s got all the same cinematic possibilities as MotOE and DotN (in fact, more than MotOE, since it’s not just Poirot questioning people): exotic setting, loads of suspects who all get things to do, visual murders, baffling and visual clues, brilliant sleuth, “WOW!” surprise solution. Unfortunately, Branagh seems determined to remake the Finney/Ustinov films, which as you say don’t really need to be remade. Of course, I’m still seeing this if it ultimately ever does come out. What did you think of the Suchet version of Murder in Mesopotamia?
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Post by timshelboy on Feb 7, 2022 23:41:55 GMT
Actually DEATH COMES AS THE END is being turned into a TV mini-series. Colour me EXCITED!!!! No casting info though. I've seen a couple of the Xmas special BBC adaptations - AND THEN THERE WERE NONE was solid - didn't much care for CROOKED HOUSE though.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 8, 2022 3:08:33 GMT
I still want to see a Murder in Mesopotamia adaptation. There’s something about the solution that’s pretty unbelievable, which I think is why it’s never been made into a movie, but that unbelievable thing isn’t hard to fix. And it’s got all the same cinematic possibilities as MotOE and DotN (in fact, more than MotOE, since it’s not just Poirot questioning people): exotic setting, loads of suspects who all get things to do, visual murders, baffling and visual clues, brilliant sleuth, “WOW!” surprise solution. Unfortunately, Branagh seems determined to remake the Finney/Ustinov films, which as you say don’t really need to be remade. Of course, I’m still seeing this if it ultimately ever does come out. What did you think of the Suchet version of Murder in Mesopotamia? Just recently rewatched it, funnily enough. I liked it but didn’t exactly love it, and thought it was much easier to guess than the book. (The person I was watching with, who hadn’t read the book or seen the ep, guessed the killer almost immediately.) My biggest problem was that the director didn’t use the great locations (Tunisia doubling for Iraq) to their utmost.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 8, 2022 12:13:50 GMT
What did you think of the Suchet version of Murder in Mesopotamia? Just recently rewatched it, funnily enough. I liked it but didn’t exactly love it, and thought it was much easier to guess than the book. (The person I was watching with, who hadn’t read the book or seen the ep, guessed the killer almost immediately.) My biggest problem was that the director didn’t use the great locations (Tunisia doubling for Iraq) to their utmost. I know what you mean. I thought it was decent but nothing special.
I wonder who could play Dr. and Mrs. Leidner in a new movie version.
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