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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 20, 2020 20:18:04 GMT
I like his books. In "Carrie" and "Delores Claiborne" the female characters are presented with a special kind of sympathy that is central to the female's plight. e.g., menstruation, sexual abuse, imbalance of power ("if I'd been a man " speech at the bank), etc.
I am in no way a feminist, but I do like how King sees things. He's really not being unreasonable with his point of view. Carrie White and Dolores Claiborne are extremely likable people.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 20, 2020 20:19:20 GMT
I know his books have been adapted into movies, but does this really belong on this particular board?
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Post by Marv on Aug 20, 2020 20:21:19 GMT
Taking feminism at its dictionary definition...and knowing what i know about King...id say for sure.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 20, 2020 20:26:13 GMT
I know his books have been adapted into movies, but does this really belong on this particular board? Oooops. Maybe you're right. What board should it be on? Horror boards? Books? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 20, 2020 20:57:26 GMT
I know his books have been adapted into movies, but does this really belong on this particular board? Oooops. Maybe you're right. What board should it be on? Horror boards? Books? Probably Books.
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Post by Marv on Aug 20, 2020 21:01:30 GMT
Oooops. Maybe you're right. What board should it be on? Horror boards? Books? Probably Books. To be fair...King is a Director and actor also. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 20, 2020 21:03:25 GMT
To be fair...King is a Director and actor also. This thread seems to be specifically referring to his books, though.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 20, 2020 21:15:56 GMT
To be fair...King is a Director and actor also. This thread seems to be specifically referring to his books, though. It's really about the female characters. |
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Post by dwightmachinehead on Aug 20, 2020 21:41:26 GMT
The man writes about a wide range of characters across a multitude of books. He has a great imagination, I wouldn't call him a feminist.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 20, 2020 22:15:45 GMT
He's liberal so he would have a feminism plank, but seems like he has cranked it up with his support of gender fluidity recently. I bet if someone found a story of his that didn't have proper deference to SJW he would disown it now.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 1:14:31 GMT
He's liberal so he would have a feminism plank, but seems like he has cranked it up with his support of gender fluidity recently. I bet if someone found a story of his that didn't have proper deference to SJW he would disown it now. My best friend throughout all of my 20s was a transsexual. She was just too much fun, but also extremely high maintenance. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 21, 2020 1:20:08 GMT
Is he? I dunno probably, he does seem fairly left leaning, which is interesting since his biggest influence is HP Lovecraft who was pretty staunchly right wing.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 21, 2020 2:11:24 GMT
He's definitely a left leaning rich white guy so he checks off all the boxes for issues he has to at least feign concern about. He was called out last year for accidentally saying how he really felt about one of his characters having their race changed and then flip flopped and virtue signaled like a big dog in super cringe fashion. Not an uncommon reaction from a rich white celebrity. They often are unaware of their shameless hypocrisy. Of course that pandering just increased the OUTRAGE from other libs against him He also has always loved the magical negro character in his books and his black characters in general are painfully embarrassing with the exception of Halloran who now that I think of it was still a magical negro. My point is his sincerity about non whites and their issues is suspect but other than my usual distaste for blatant hypocrisy from the left in that area I don't care if he writes white characters better.
Not sure if I would call him a feminist but he has never had a problem with writing believable strong capable female characters. His wife for sure is a feminist so he would share some of her beliefs as any caring partner should. His more recent inclusion of gay and trans gendered characters is because his daughter is gay. He is a bit heavy handed in making the gay characters too good to be true but I can understand why he does it. In contrast to his suspect concern for non whites, he seems very sincere about his female characters so I'm going with he's a feminist but not to the point of being a moronic white knight which isn't really a true feminist anyway.
I hope that verbose round about post helped.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 21, 2020 2:14:09 GMT
I know his books have been adapted into movies, but does this really belong on this particular board? Oooops. Maybe you're right. What board should it be on? Horror boards? Books? I don't see any reason to move the subject from this board. It will get more attention and posts here than on the book board.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 2:27:16 GMT
He's definitely a left leaning rich white guy so he checks off all the boxes for issues he has to at least feign concern about. He was called out last year for accidentally saying how he really felt about one of his characters having their race changed and then flip flopped and virtue signaled like a big dog in super cringe fashion. Not an uncommon reaction from a rich white celebrity. They often are unaware of their shameless hypocrisy. Of course that pandering just increased the OUTRAGE from other libs against him He also has always loved the magical negro character in his books and his black characters in general are painfully embarrassing with the exception of Halloran who now that I think of it was still a magical negro. My point is his sincerity about non whites and their issues is suspect but other than my usual distaste for blatant hypocrisy from the left in that area I don't care if he writes white characters better. Not sure if I would call him a feminist but he has never had a problem with writing believable strong capable female characters. His wife for sure is a feminist so he would share some of her beliefs as any caring partner should. His more recent inclusion of gay and trans gendered characters is because his daughter is gay. He is a bit heavy handed in making the gay characters too good to be true but I can understand why he does it. In contrast to his suspect concern for non whites, he seems very sincere about his female characters so I'm going with he's a feminist but not to the point of being a moronic white knight which isn't really a true feminist anyway. I hope that verbose round about post helped. Yes, that was very interesting. I had no idea SK was a devoted liberal. I also had never thought about his tendency to endow his black characters with some kind of magical mystique. King just seemed very sympathetic towards Delores Claiborne and it was because of the fact that Delores, while being almost 100 % good, suffered at the hands of men. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 21, 2020 2:29:51 GMT
Oooops. Maybe you're right. What board should it be on? Horror boards? Books? I don't see any reason to move the subject from this board. It will get more attention and posts here than on the book board. Why does this even need to be a topic worthy of attention in the first place?
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Post by moonchild on Aug 21, 2020 2:33:52 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her
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Post by moonchild on Aug 21, 2020 2:35:04 GMT
I don't see any reason to move the subject from this board. It will get more attention and posts here than on the book board. Why does this even need to be a topic worthy of attention in the first place? Why not, Mr Sunshine?
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 2:36:29 GMT
I don't see any reason to move the subject from this board. It will get more attention and posts here than on the book board. Why does this even need to be a topic worthy of attention in the first place? Well, if the subject is not worthy of attention, then that makes your own post quadruply boring. |
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 2:38:22 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Yes, Vera Donovan wasn't likable at first, but it was nice to see her and Dolores gradually become close. |
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