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Post by moviemouth on Aug 21, 2020 2:38:28 GMT
He's definitely a left leaning rich white guy so he checks off all the boxes for issues he has to at least feign concern about. He was called out last year for accidentally saying how he really felt about one of his characters having their race changed and then flip flopped and virtue signaled like a big dog in super cringe fashion. Not an uncommon reaction from a rich white celebrity. They often are unaware of their shameless hypocrisy. Of course that pandering just increased the OUTRAGE from other libs against him He also has always loved the magical negro character in his books and his black characters in general are painfully embarrassing with the exception of Halloran who now that I think of it was still a magical negro. My point is his sincerity about non whites and their issues is suspect but other than my usual distaste for blatant hypocrisy from the left in that area I don't care if he writes white characters better. Not sure if I would call him a feminist but he has never had a problem with writing believable strong capable female characters. His wife for sure is a feminist so he would share some of her beliefs as any caring partner should. His more recent inclusion of gay and trans gendered characters is because his daughter is gay. He is a bit heavy handed in making the gay characters too good to be true but I can understand why he does it. In contrast to his suspect concern for non whites, he seems very sincere about his female characters so I'm going with he's a feminist but not to the point of being a moronic white knight which isn't really a true feminist anyway. I hope that verbose round about post helped. Which of his other books have a magical black character besides The Green Mile?
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Post by moonchild on Aug 21, 2020 2:44:06 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Yes, Vera Donovan wasn't likable at first, but it was nice to see her and Dolores gradually become close. She could be a 'high riding bitch'. I think she did care for Dolores. Dolores seemed to be the only one who was there for her, yes?
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Post by poelzig on Aug 21, 2020 2:45:32 GMT
He's definitely a left leaning rich white guy so he checks off all the boxes for issues he has to at least feign concern about. He was called out last year for accidentally saying how he really felt about one of his characters having their race changed and then flip flopped and virtue signaled like a big dog in super cringe fashion. Not an uncommon reaction from a rich white celebrity. They often are unaware of their shameless hypocrisy. Of course that pandering just increased the OUTRAGE from other libs against him He also has always loved the magical negro character in his books and his black characters in general are painfully embarrassing with the exception of Halloran who now that I think of it was still a magical negro. My point is his sincerity about non whites and their issues is suspect but other than my usual distaste for blatant hypocrisy from the left in that area I don't care if he writes white characters better. Not sure if I would call him a feminist but he has never had a problem with writing believable strong capable female characters. His wife for sure is a feminist so he would share some of her beliefs as any caring partner should. His more recent inclusion of gay and trans gendered characters is because his daughter is gay. He is a bit heavy handed in making the gay characters too good to be true but I can understand why he does it. In contrast to his suspect concern for non whites, he seems very sincere about his female characters so I'm going with he's a feminist but not to the point of being a moronic white knight which isn't really a true feminist anyway. I hope that verbose round about post helped. Which of his other books have a magical black character besides The Green Mile? The Shining, The Stand and The Tailsman.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 21, 2020 2:48:47 GMT
Why does this even need to be a topic worthy of attention in the first place? Well, if the subject is not worth of attention, then that makes your own post quadruply boring. I mean that this seems like a topic that’s been done to death. People are always talking about Stephen King’s politics, and we have plenty of political topics on this board as is.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 21, 2020 2:50:42 GMT
Which of his other books have a magical black character besides The Green Mile? The Shining, The Stand and The Tailsman. I don't consider him a magical black person in The Shining movie in the same way that John Coffey is in The Green Mile. It is implied that many people are capable of "shining" regardless of race. The difference in The Green Mile is that there is a comparison being made to Jesus. It is much more in your face about it.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 2:56:53 GMT
Well, if the subject is not worth of attention, then that makes your own post quadruply boring. I mean that this seems like a topic that’s been done to death. People are always talking about Stephen King’s politics, and we have plenty of political topics on this board as is. I've never once heard about Stephen King's politics. I only posted because of how King seemed to view Dolores.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 21, 2020 4:31:08 GMT
I don't see any reason to move the subject from this board. It will get more attention and posts here than on the book board. Why does this even need to be a topic worthy of attention in the first place? I'm enjoying it and others seem to be as well. Also Advacadojoe is honestly asking. At least I sense no trolling or ulterior motive here.
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Post by avocadojoe on Aug 21, 2020 5:52:35 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Yeah, I love it, too, Moonchild. It gets your attention right at the start and entertains to the very end. There's also a sad undercurrent throughout that is very effective. Most importantly, I think, is that Dolores is extremely sympathetic and Kathy Bates is the most perfect casting imaginable. I like her Annie Wilkes okay (Annie is nowhere near as fleshed out as Dolores), but I think DC is maybe Bates' best moment.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Aug 21, 2020 6:46:47 GMT
He's liberal so he would have a feminism plank, but seems like he has cranked it up with his support of gender fluidity recently. I bet if someone found a story of his that didn't have proper deference to SJW he would disown it now. If you're not familiar with this poster, he seems to be a Holocaust skeptic, so take anything he says with about 600 grains of salt.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 21, 2020 6:54:09 GMT
If you're not familiar with this poster, he seems to be a Holocaust skeptic, so take anything he says with about 600 grains of salt. Yawn. When a Lenin disciple cannot offer a constructive comment, resort to feeble slanders. Robert Mitchum was more of a holocaust skeptic than me. Maybe you want to get his movies banned comrade.
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Post by Marv on Aug 21, 2020 17:18:56 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Delores was a great character. Ive seen the movie a dozen times and read the novel once, so i can't recall if all the same details are in both...but in the movie when Joe smacks her with the log and theres a few scenes of her nursing it and weeping while serving dinner...then later after her daughter goes to bed she smacks him in the side of the head with a pitcher and threatens him with an axe. "You do it again...and one of us is goin to the boneyaaaahhhd!"
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Post by moonchild on Aug 22, 2020 0:16:50 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Yeah, I love it, too, Moonchild. It gets your attention right at the start and entertains to the very end. There's also a sad undercurrent throughout that is very effective. Most importantly, I think, is that Dolores is extremely sympathetic and Kathy Bates is the most perfect casting imaginable. I like her Annie Wilkes okay (Annie is nowhere near as fleshed out as Dolores), but I think DC is maybe Bates' best moment. You're right, it was excellent casting
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Post by moonchild on Aug 22, 2020 0:18:47 GMT
avocadojoe Dolores Claiborne is such a good movie. Her husband is so disgusting and her daughter is tough on her What Dolores did, she did for her daughter, and I love what her employer did for her Delores was a great character. Ive seen the movie a dozen times and read the novel once, so i can't recall if all the same details are in both...but in the movie when Joe smacks her with the log and theres a few scenes of her nursing it and weeping while serving dinner...then later after her daughter goes to bed she smacks him in the side of the head with a pitcher and threatens him with an axe. "You do it again...and one of us is goin to the boneyaaaahhhd!" Yes, he was a real bastard. I read the book too, I love Stephen King
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