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Post by moviemouth on Aug 23, 2020 22:10:26 GMT
BEST ACTOR
1. Viggo Mortensen, Green Book
2. Joaquin Phoenix, Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
3. Ethan Hawke, First Reformed
4. Mahershala Ali, Green Book
5. Christian Bale, Vice
BEST ACTRESS
1. Glenn Close, The Wife
2. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, All About Nina
3. Elsie Fisher, Eighth Grade
4. Carey Mulligan, Wildlife
5. Toni Collette, Hereditary
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. Jonah Hill, Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
2. Rafael Casal, Blindspotting
3. Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
4. Sam Elliott, A Star is Born
5. Robert Forster, What They Had
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Natalie Portman, Vox Lux
2. Helena Bonham Carter, 55 Steps
3. Olivia Colman, The Favourite
4. Rachel Weisz, The Favourite
5. Blake Lively, A Simple Favor
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Post by movielover on Aug 23, 2020 22:21:37 GMT
BEST ACTOR
1. Viggo Mortensen - Green Book
2. Ethan Hawke - First Reformed
3. Steve Coogan - Stan & Ollie
4. John Hawkes - Small Town Crime
5. Bradley Cooper - A Star Is Born
BEST ACTRESS
1. Glenn Close - The Wife
2. Carey Mulligan - Wildlife
3. Hilary Swank - 55 Steps & What They Had
4. Elsie Fisher - Eighth Grade
5. Toni Collette - Hereditary
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. Mahershala Ali - Green Book
2. Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me?
3. Robert Forster - What They Had
4. Ed Harris - Kodachrome
5. Sam Elliott - A Star is Born
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Helena Bonham Carter - 55 Steps
2. Olivia Colman - The Favourite
3. Mackenzie Davis - Tully
4. Elizabeth Olsen - Kodachrome
5. Rachel Weisz - The Favourite
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Post by jcush on Aug 23, 2020 22:28:06 GMT
Actor:
1. Viggo Mortensen - Green Book
2. Matt Dillon - The House That Jack Built
3. Joaquin Phoenix - Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
4. Mahershala Ali - Green Book
5. Christian Bale - Vice
Actress:
1. Toni Collette - Hereditary
2. Carey Mulligan - Wildlife
3. Olivia Cooke - Thoroughbreds
4. Elsie Fisher - Eighth Grade
5. Charlize Theron - Tully
Supporting Actor:
1. Anton Yelchin - Thoroughbreds
2. Jonah Hill - Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
3. Linus Roache - Mandy
4. Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me?
5. Sam Elliott - A Star is Born
Supporting Actress:
1. Natalie Portman - Vox Lux
2. Helena Bonham Carter - 55 Steps
3. Olivia Colman - The Favourite
4. Rachel Weisz - The Favourite
5. Amy Adams - Vice
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 23, 2020 22:52:49 GMT
Eyyyyyy, Movie Pizano Brad! Yuz da only one who ain't gonna gimme that best acta win? Fuggeddaboutit! Ba da bing!
BEST ACTOR
1. Rami Malek - Bohemian Rhapsody
2. Christian Bale - Vice
3. Mahershala Ali - Green Book
4. Ethan Hawke - First Reformed
5. Lakeith Stanfield - Sorry To Both You
BEST ACTRESS
1. Toni Collette - Hereditary
2. Lady Gaga - A Star is Born
3. Elsie Fisher - Eighth Grade
4. Yalitza Aparicio - Roma
5. Emma Stone - The Favorite
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. Tom Waits - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
2. Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me?
3. Josh Hamilton - Eighth Grade
4. Tim Blake Nelson - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
5. Alex Wolff - Hereditary
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Olivia Colman - The Favourite
2. Michelle Yeoh - Crazy Rich Asians
3. Marina de Tavira - Roma
4. Emily Blunt - A Quiet Place
5. Regina King - If Beele Street Could Talk
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Post by jcush on Aug 23, 2020 23:32:22 GMT
Eyyyyyy, Movie Pizano Brad! Yuz da only one who ain't gonna gimme that best acta win? Fuggeddaboutit! Ba da bing! BEST ACTOR 1. Rami Malek - Bohemian Rhapsody 2. Christian Bale - Vice 3. Mahershala Ali - Green Book 4. Ethan Hawke - First Reformed 5. Lakeith Stanfield - Sorry To Both You BEST ACTRESS 1. Toni Collette - Hereditary 2. Lady Gaga - A Star is Born 3. Elsie Fisher - Eighth Grade
4. Yalitza Aparicio - Roma 5. Emma Stone - The Favorite BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR 1. Tom Waits - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 2. Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me? 3. Josh Hamilton - Eighth Grade 4. Tim Blake Nelson - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 5. Alex Wolff - Hereditary BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS 1. Olivia Colman - The Favourite 2. Michelle Yeoh - Crazy Rich Asians 3. Marina de Tavira - Roma 4. Emily Blunt - A Quiet Place 5. Regina King - If Beele Street Could Talk Too bad. You're not special anymore.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 23, 2020 23:42:42 GMT
Eyyyyyy, Movie Pizano Brad! Yuz da only one who ain't gonna gimme that best acta win? Fuggeddaboutit! Ba da bing! BEST ACTOR 1. Rami Malek - Bohemian Rhapsody 2. Christian Bale - Vice 3. Mahershala Ali - Green Book 4. Ethan Hawke - First Reformed 5. Lakeith Stanfield - Sorry To Both You BEST ACTRESS 1. Toni Collette - Hereditary 2. Lady Gaga - A Star is Born 3. Elsie Fisher - Eighth Grade
4. Yalitza Aparicio - Roma 5. Emma Stone - The Favorite BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR 1. Tom Waits - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 2. Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me? 3. Josh Hamilton - Eighth Grade 4. Tim Blake Nelson - The Ballad of Buster Scruggs 5. Alex Wolff - Hereditary BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS 1. Olivia Colman - The Favourite 2. Michelle Yeoh - Crazy Rich Asians 3. Marina de Tavira - Roma 4. Emily Blunt - A Quiet Place 5. Regina King - If Beele Street Could Talk Too bad. You're not special anymore. Eyyyy, rudeboy! Jcush says yuz cramping my individuality ovah'ere! Sa-zeech! Gabagool!
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Post by jcush on Aug 23, 2020 23:44:22 GMT
Too bad. You're not special anymore. Eyyyy, rudeboy! Jcush says yuz cramping my individuality ovah'ere! Sa-zeech! Gabagool! I hope you realize I was just messing with you.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 23, 2020 23:49:30 GMT
Eyyyy, rudeboy! Jcush says yuz cramping my individuality ovah'ere! Sa-zeech! Gabagool! I hope you realize I was just messing with you. Likewise. Well, Viggo himself really, but he ain't here.
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Post by jcush on Aug 23, 2020 23:50:37 GMT
I hope you realize I was just messing with you. Likewise. Well, Viggo himself really, but he ain't here. Hey man, you never know.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 23, 2020 23:51:03 GMT
Eyyyy, rudeboy! Jcush says yuz cramping my individuality ovah'ere! Sa-zeech! Gabagool! I hope you realize I was just messing with you. He loves his snarky insults. The performance is intentionally exaggerated for comedic purpose and it is as entertaining and likable as any performance I have ever seen.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 24, 2020 0:21:09 GMT
I hope you realize I was just messing with you. He loves his snarky insults. The performance is intentionally exaggerated for comedic purpose and it is as entertaining and likable as any performance I have ever seen. If I did, I would have included Viggo in my lineup. Oh snap. I just found it an odd choice to play the guy as a cartoon for a grounded if humorous biopic. He's entertaining, sure, but I feel there are just way more demanding lead actor roles this year than an ancient stereotype.
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Post by mikef6 on Aug 24, 2020 0:29:27 GMT
BEST ACTOR
Ethan Hawke in First Reformed and Juliet, Naked
Barry Keoghan in American Animals
Lakeith Stanfield in Sorry To Bother You
Keanu Reeves in Destination Wedding
Jeff Bridges in Bad Times At The El Royale
BEST ACTRESS
Emma Thompson in The Children Act
Olivia Colman in The Favourite
Winona Ryder in Destination Wedding
Natalie Portman in Vox Lux
Keira Knightley in Colette
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Lewis Pullman in Bad Times At The El Royale
Matthias Schoenaerts in Red Sparrow
Nicholas Hoult in The Favourite
Jeff Goldblum in Hotel Artemis
Zachary Quinto in Hotel Artemis
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cynthia Erivo in Bad Times At The El Royale and Widows
Emma Stone in The Favourite
Rachel Weisz in The Favourite
Helena Bonham Carter in Ocean’s Eight
Tessa Thompson in Annihilation
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 24, 2020 0:44:30 GMT
He loves his snarky insults. The performance is intentionally exaggerated for comedic purpose and it is as entertaining and likable as any performance I have ever seen. If I did, I would have included Viggo in my lineup. Oh snap. I just found it an odd choice to play the guy as a cartoon for a grounded if humorous biopic. He's entertaining, sure, but I feel there are just way more demanding lead actor roles this year than an ancient stereotype. I didn't say a cartoon, I said exaggerated. He still has a very believable humanity and depth imo, he just exaggerates his manner of speaking. I wasn't totally buying what's his name as Freddie Mercury. His performance feels shallow to me and the same goes for Gary Oldman in Darkest Hour. They are technically impressive performances, but they didn't connect with me. I didn't see much underneath the surface.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 24, 2020 0:54:47 GMT
If I did, I would have included Viggo in my lineup. Oh snap. I just found it an odd choice to play the guy as a cartoon for a grounded if humorous biopic. He's entertaining, sure, but I feel there are just way more demanding lead actor roles this year than an ancient stereotype. Yes - he was enjoyable to watch. But not for any reasons to do with great acting.Viggo is a good actor who always seems to wind up on the awards radar for the wrong roles - The Two Towers, A History of Violence and the Road are more worthy than his nominations to date. Having said that, I personally thought that Oscars Best Actor 2018 was probably the worst line-up of my lifetime, and if forced (probably at gunpoint) to pick a favourite, Viggo would be the one. I don't know what great acting is then, nor do I care. I have never seen a performance from him anything like that. It was a completely new character and performance from him and that is what I care about. I saw depth and humanity and humor and a real 3-dimensional human being underneath it all. Bradley Cooper on the other hand, I saw a nothing but "look at me be dramatic," but nothing of substance underneath.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 24, 2020 1:04:30 GMT
If I did, I would have included Viggo in my lineup. Oh snap. I just found it an odd choice to play the guy as a cartoon for a grounded if humorous biopic. He's entertaining, sure, but I feel there are just way more demanding lead actor roles this year than an ancient stereotype. I didn't say a cartoon, I said exaggerated. He still has a very believable humanity and depth imo, he just exaggerates his manner of speaking. I wasn't totally buying what's his name as Freddie Mercury. His performance feels shallow to me and the same goes for Gary Oldman in Darkest Hour. They are technically impressive performances, but they didn't connect with me. I didn't see much underneath the surface. I said cartoon. I have family that's NY Italian, and in comparison that's what he felt like. Can't agree at all on Makek. I found a lot of humanity and heart to it beyond just doing a great accent and impersonation of Mercury (though it was - bonus points to anyone playing an icon who can make you forget they don't much resemble them), not to mention he carried a mediocre movie entirely on his back and made it more watchable and emotional than it had any right of being. Darkest Hour was a forgettable TV movie you only watch to see an actor flex for 2 hours, and flex Oldman did. Could your lack of connection be for the movie itself? |
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 24, 2020 1:14:05 GMT
I didn't say a cartoon, I said exaggerated. He still has a very believable humanity and depth imo, he just exaggerates his manner of speaking. I wasn't totally buying what's his name as Freddie Mercury. His performance feels shallow to me and the same goes for Gary Oldman in Darkest Hour. They are technically impressive performances, but they didn't connect with me. I didn't see much underneath the surface. I said cartoon. I have family that's NY Italian, and in comparison that's what he felt like. Can't agree at all on Makek. I found a lot of humanity and heart to it beyond just doing a great accent and impersonation of Mercury (though it was - bonus points to anyone playing an icon who can make you forget they don't much resemble them), not to mention he carried a mediocre movie entirely on his back and made it more watchable and emotional than it had any right of being. Darkest Hour was a forgettable TV movie you only watch to see an actor flex for 2 hours, and flex Oldman did. Could your lack of connection be for the movie itself? No. His performance actually made the movie worse. I will give you that it may be in part that I am being super critical because it is Gary Oldman though. I am too aware of his grandstanding. The train scene is fantastic acting though. The thing is that I know what Churchill acted like and Oldman's performance comes off like a caricature of a person who already had a large personality/persona. Bohemian Rhopsody suffers from the exact same problems for me. Generic, but entertaining biopic with a caricature performance. I didn't for one second believe him as Freddie Mercury, but the accent is great. I have met real New York Italians btw and that is why I said exaggerated. It is probably because you are around it more and that is why it bothered you.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 24, 2020 1:19:08 GMT
I said cartoon. I have family that's NY Italian, and in comparison that's what he felt like. Can't agree at all on Makek. I found a lot of humanity and heart to it beyond just doing a great accent and impersonation of Mercury (though it was - bonus points to anyone playing an icon who can make you forget they don't much resemble them), not to mention he carried a mediocre movie entirely on his back and made it more watchable and emotional than it had any right of being. Darkest Hour was a forgettable TV movie you only watch to see an actor flex for 2 hours, and flex Oldman did. Could your lack of connection be for the movie itself? No. His performance actually made the movie worse. I will give you that it may be in part that I am being super critical because it is Gary Oldman though. I was too aware of his grandstanding. The train scene is fantastic acting though. The thing is that I know what Churchill acted like and Oldman's performance comes off like a caricature of a person who already had a large personality/persona. I have met real Italians btw and that is why I said exaggerated. It is probably because you are around it more and that is why it bothered you. Likewise, I'm not all that familiar with Churchill outside of readings so his performance worked for me the sane way, say, DDL in Lincoln did. But I can see what you mean, especially because that's how I feel about Sean Penn as Harvey Milk. |
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 24, 2020 1:27:25 GMT
No. His performance actually made the movie worse. I will give you that it may be in part that I am being super critical because it is Gary Oldman though. I was too aware of his grandstanding. The train scene is fantastic acting though. The thing is that I know what Churchill acted like and Oldman's performance comes off like a caricature of a person who already had a large personality/persona. I have met real Italians btw and that is why I said exaggerated. It is probably because you are around it more and that is why it bothered you. Likewise, I'm not all that familiar with Churchill outside of readings so his performance worked for me the sane way, say, DDL in Lincoln did. But I can see what you mean because that's how I feel about Sean Penn as Harvey Milk. Well DDL is a bit different because there is no video or recording of Lincoln. DDL researched that Lincoln had a higher pitched voice and that is how he chose what to make his voice sound like. It depends though, because there are portrayals of historical people that are purposely going in whatever direction. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I am very picky when it comes to these types of performances.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 24, 2020 1:52:37 GMT
Likewise, I'm not all that familiar with Churchill outside of readings so his performance worked for me the sane way, say, DDL in Lincoln did. But I can see what you mean because that's how I feel about Sean Penn as Harvey Milk. Well DDL is a bit different because there is no video or recording of Lincoln. DDL researched that Lincoln had a higher pitched voice and that is how he chose what to make his voice sound like. It depends though, because there are portrayals of historical people that are purposely going in whatever direction. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I am very picky when it comes to these types of performances. Of course I know recordings of Churchill exist, I just haven't really looked into them. Oldman embodied my idea of the guy, and no one else until you really gave me reason to question it. Perhaps if I looked into those recordings I'd feel the same way as you. I pretty much agree on the second part. |
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 24, 2020 2:07:00 GMT
Well DDL is a bit different because there is no video or recording of Lincoln. DDL researched that Lincoln had a higher pitched voice and that is how he chose what to make his voice sound like. It depends though, because there are portrayals of historical people that are purposely going in whatever direction. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I am very picky when it comes to these types of performances. Of course I know recordings of Churchill exist, I just haven't really looked into them. Oldman embodied my idea of the guy, and no one else until you really gave me reason to question it. Perhaps if I looked into those recordings I'd feel the same way as you. I pretty much agree on the second part. He doesn't NOT sound like him, he just hams it up too much imo. Ironically, I really like Rod Taylor's portrayal of him in Inglourious Basterds.
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