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Post by mikef6 on May 4, 2017 16:18:10 GMT
A recent magazine article that celebrates Mahler (BBC Music, May 2017) has a sidebar with 5 quotes about Gustav from musical celebrities past and present (including Sir Paul McCartney who claims that he and John would “Do the Kindertotenlieder and Wunderhorn for hours; we’d take turns singing and playing the piano. We thought Mahler was gear”).
But the one I am concerned about is from Aaron Copland who is quoted as saying:
What the hell does that mean? Is it meant to be a compliment? If I read it correctly, it certainly is not, although being able to completely untangle the sentence completely has eluded me.
Any thoughts?
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Post by general313 on May 5, 2017 0:38:58 GMT
Who cares what Aaron Copland thought. Mahler was a far greater composer than Copland.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 6, 2017 17:49:32 GMT
Dunno. I prefer Mahler to Beethoven (and Copland) so it's water off my back anyway.
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 30, 2017 5:15:08 GMT
Who cares what Aaron Copland thought. Mahler was a far greater composer than Copland. So what if Mahler was greater than Copland? That is something that is always brought against critics. If you can't compose/write/paint/play baseball as good as the people you write about, then your opinion, however expert, does not count. Does nobody notice that this makes no sense? Besides, I asked what the quote meant, not who was the better composer.
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Post by general313 on Jul 30, 2017 17:46:39 GMT
Who cares what Aaron Copland thought. Mahler was a far greater composer than Copland. So what if Mahler was greater than Copland? That is something that is always brought against critics. If you can't compose/write/paint/play baseball as good as the people you write about, then your opinion, however expert, does not count. Does nobody notice that this makes no sense? Besides, I asked what the quote meant, not who was the better composer. You make a valid point. On the other hand, if you vehemently dislike someone and think they're vastly overrated, you're unlikely to have any interest in their opinions. I happen to detest Copland's music and think he's vastly overrated. In any case, FWIW, I'm not in complete disagreement with Copland's opinion, except to say that it is vastly overstated. I do think Beethoven is much greater than Mahler, but it's completely unfair to characterize the latter the way Copland did. Mahler's reputation has increased greatly since World War II, and I can't help but wonder when Copland made his remarks on Mahler.
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Post by howardschumann on Aug 4, 2017 6:03:38 GMT
But the one I am concerned about is from Aaron Copland who is quoted as saying: What the hell does that mean? Is it meant to be a compliment? If I read it correctly, it certainly is not, although being able to completely untangle the sentence completely has eluded me. Any thoughts? "Yes I'm the great pretender Pretending that I'm doing well My need is such, I pretend too much I'm lonely and no one can tell"
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