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Post by teleadm on May 5, 2017 17:48:09 GMT
I will try to explain why I mentioned this movie, Oh, yes, I quite understand all of your points, and I think they are important illustrations of how single women in America at that time were put aside, held back, restrained by society, particularly widows and divorcees (divorcee being a side-note, but a relevant one). We are in complete agreement about that; it's one of the things about the film I love the most. My only disagreement with you is that Jane Wyman was playing a middle-aged character, not an elderly one, which is really what this thread is about. That said, I still feel the pain of Wyman's character as she struggles to find her place in the world as a woman who seems invisible to all except the younger man who loves her and whom she finally allows herself to love back. As I said, it's my favorite Sirk film, for all the reasons you mention. Somehow I've understand that you don't like Jane Wyman, except In the Cool Cool cool of the Evening,, I can withdraw all metions of this movie if you like!
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Post by fangirl1975 on May 5, 2017 18:13:19 GMT
Philomena starring Judi Dench
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 18:15:20 GMT
How could I forget Ali:Fear Eats the Soul by Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Brigitte Mira as a woman in her mid-sixties who falls in love with an immigrant from Morocco who is 25 years her junior.
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Post by teleadm on May 5, 2017 21:02:15 GMT
Somehow I've understand that you don't like Jane Wyman, except In the Cool Cool cool of the Evening, I can withdraw all mentions of this movie if you like! Are you kidding? Jane Wyman is one of my favorite actresses. I adore her, in her silly movies and in her serious films. There's no need for you to withdraw anything. I guess, though I don't quite understand why, we'll just have to agree to disagree about All That Heaven Allows. Please take no offense from any of my comments. None whatsoever was intended. The Thread was about female aging, and I mentioned this movie as an afterthougth, so how about it Spiderwort, let's move on...
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Post by spiderwort on May 5, 2017 21:20:03 GMT
teleadm, I get the misunderstanding, finally! My thread subject line said: "Films featuring elderly female protagonists" BUT I didn't include that in my first post. I will correct that immediately, and I can understand now why you wanted to include All That Heaven Allows. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by teleadm on May 5, 2017 21:31:54 GMT
teleadm , I get the misunderstanding, finally! My thread subject line said: "Films featuring elderly female protagonists" BUT I didn't include that in my first post. I will correct that immediately, and I can understand now why you wanted to include All That Heaven Allows. Sorry for the confusion. It's my fault too, I read it too fast Kate Hepburn in Long day and your wonderful review of that movie version
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Post by manfromplanetx on May 5, 2017 23:14:17 GMT
"Aging is such an extraordinary phenomenon" how each of us deals with it the subject of great drama... wonderful examples spiderwort, Mary Tyrone a dynamic dramatic portrayal.
A theme of apathy and complacency revolves around ageing and elderly central character, Meg (Dandy Nichols) in an exceptional performance, The Birthday Party (1968) Directed by William Friedkin, Screenplay from Harold Pinter from his own play .
Meg Boles is in her sixties, frumpy and unattractive, her home life has devolved into one of detachment and complacency. She repeats herself in conversation, asking the same questions over and over again in a bid for attention from her lifeless husband. Meg's words constantly require attention they mask a deep neurosis and insecurity that now lingers in her ageing confined world.
She is landlady to a young man, Stanley..
Meg maintains certain delusions about her attractiveness and popularity, delusions which she works hard to protect. She fishes for compliments from Stanley, Meg wishes to know whether he finds her "nice." Through the eyes of this younger man, Meg can see herself not as a generic housewife & older landlady, but as something special, as a worthwhile and attractive woman. She desires intimacy with Stanley; she wants something deeper than she has now. Meg and Stanley have a strange, possibly a sexual relationship?, are they just her fantasies, a diversion from facing the reality of growing old? this relationship remains entirely ambiguous throughout.
The delusional and constructed reality that Meg has created, cushions her ageing existence, the nostalgia of her youthful past comes out in her final words, the final words of the film/play, they have a heavy sense of poignancy...
Having had a wonderful time at the Birthday Party the previous night in which she fondly wears her best dress, she exclaims to her husband who was absent, that she was ... "the Belle of the Ball" !
Waffled on a bit? Must be my age LOL...
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Post by louise on Jul 31, 2017 6:58:41 GMT
Alive and kicking (1964) is a funny film about three old ladies (sybil Thorndike, kathleen harrison, estelle Winwood) who run away from the old people's home they are living in because it is closing down and they are going to be split up. they end up living on a hebridesn island and helping the locals start a knitwear business. it's an amusing film with an early appearance by a young Richard harris.
margaret rutherford was great fun as miss Marple, though she didn't much resemble the miss marple of the books, and only the first film, Murder She said, was actually based on a Miss Marple book.
Helen hayes wAs very good as Miss marple in A caribbean Mystery.
Edna may oliver was good as Hidlegarde Withers in The penguin pool Murders.
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Post by louise on Jul 31, 2017 11:36:44 GMT
Wild oats is another one I saw recently that i quite enjoyed. shirley mclaine and Jessica Lange. a silly story but quite amusing.
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Post by marshamae on Jul 31, 2017 13:09:52 GMT
Fabia Drake owns any film lucky enough to have her. Valmont, the milos Forman version of liasons dangereuses has he as the owner of the country house where the gang meets for fun and games. What a witty performance, a sweet old lady with a past , content to watch the youngsters dance, and bringing comfort at a key moment.
Her role as the more verbal if the Muss Allens in Room With A View is not large but she is noticeable.
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