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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 4, 2020 22:55:08 GMT
hated as their movies? Coleman Francis. His movies make you feel slimy. Ed Wood might have been a worse director (matter of very small degrees) but Wood's movies had a campy charm. Francis' flicks sure didn't. No one really "hates" Ed Wood though. No, not at all.
But he wasn't a good director. His movies are accidentally entertaining.
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Post by kolchak92 on Sept 4, 2020 22:56:06 GMT
No one really "hates" Ed Wood though. No, not at all.
But he wasn't a good director. His movies are accidentally entertaining.
Plan 9 is still a really fun movie to watch, I don't care what anyone says.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 4, 2020 23:00:06 GMT
No, not at all.
But he wasn't a good director. His movies are accidentally entertaining.
Plan 9 is still a really fun movie to watch, I don't care what anyone says. I liked all of his non-porn stuff. Jail Bait, Glen or Glenda, Bride of the Monster. They are entertaining. Great filmmaking, no, but entertaining never the less
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Post by Captain Spencer on Sept 5, 2020 14:10:48 GMT
No one really "hates" Ed Wood though. No, not at all.
But he wasn't a good director. His movies are accidentally entertaining.
That's a good way of putting it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 5, 2020 14:21:54 GMT
The one that makes me go “ugh” when mentioned is Michael Bay.
I know there are worse directors out there, but none as successful or well known.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 5, 2020 14:55:50 GMT
No, not at all.
But he wasn't a good director. His movies are accidentally entertaining.
That's a good way of putting it. My wife still maintains that Wood meant for his movies to be that bad. She maintains that no one could possibly think that lines like "Visits? Why that would indicate visitors!" is anything but intentionally funny
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Post by someguy on Sept 5, 2020 15:07:40 GMT
That's a good way of putting it. My wife still maintains that Wood meant for his movies to be that bad. She maintains that no one could possibly think that lines like "Visits? Why that would indicate visitors!" is anything but intentionally funny
If a movie is so bad it’s good on purpose, does that take away from the appeal?
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Post by Captain Spencer on Sept 5, 2020 15:08:19 GMT
That's a good way of putting it. My wife still maintains that Wood meant for his movies to be that bad. She maintains that no one could possibly think that lines like "Visits? Why that would indicate visitors!" is anything but intentionally funny
Oh yes, the dialogue in Plan 9 is incredibly bad. "But one thing's sure. Inspector Clay is dead, murdered, and somebody's responsible."
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Post by Vits on Sept 5, 2020 15:18:40 GMT
If a movie is so bad it’s good on purpose, does that take away from the appeal? Absolutely. Compare BIRDEMIC PART 1 & PART 2. Or the first 12 chapters of R Kelly's TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET and the remaining 21.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 5, 2020 15:24:23 GMT
My wife still maintains that Wood meant for his movies to be that bad. She maintains that no one could possibly think that lines like "Visits? Why that would indicate visitors!" is anything but intentionally funny
Oh yes, the dialogue in Plan 9 is incredibly bad. "But one thing's sure. Inspector Clay is dead, murdered, and somebody's responsible." The dialogue in Wood's movies was never Shakespearean
Pull da strink! Dance to zat! (Lugosi did sound good, but what the hell it had to do with crossdressing? From Glen or Glenda)
But the dialogue in 9 is so awful. My daughter watched 9 when she was 9 (ha!) and she asked me "Why do they talk so WEIRD"?
BTW, Ed Wood was no physicist either
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 5, 2020 17:03:37 GMT
A while ago I would have said Uwe Boll, but no one really seems to care about him anymore. Maybe a case could be made for Victor Salva (though he's more hated for his pedophile scandal than his movies) I'm still going to go with Uwe Boll. No one has made that much shlock one after the other than him. As for personal lives. I try not to care too much about that because Hollywood cant seem to make up its own mind about who's a scumbag so who am I to say?
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Post by marianne48 on Sept 11, 2020 0:42:26 GMT
He coulda been a contender:
Cecil B. DeMille--there are many stories about how he treated /mistreated his actors. Former child star Dickie Moore gave him this testimonial: "[He] was a complete and total egotist who didn't give a damn about anyone else. He hit me! I was a five-year-old kid and he hit me!"
While filming a crowd scene in one of his Biblical epics, he needed the crowd to express a shocked and awed reaction. He informed them, falsely, that he'd just learned that a crew member had died, just so he could record their upset reactions.
He attempted to get Joseph L. Mankiewicz removed as the head of the Directors' Guild for not signing a loyalty oath.
During filming of another crowd scene, DeMille spotted a female extra talking to the woman next to her. Furious that she would dare speak while he was giving direction, he scolded her through his megaphone, "Will you kindly tell everyone here what you are talking about that is sooooo important?!" The extra replied, "I was just saying to my friend, 'I wonder when that bald-headed son-of-a-bitch is going to call lunch.'" DeMille then announced, "LUNCH!"
DeMille was very athletic and sneered at actors who balked at performing stunts. During the filming of Samson and Delilah, star Victor Mature was afraid of performing a particular stunt; DeMille mocked him for being "100% yellow."
On the set of The Crusades, his stuntmen complained that he was very lax in maintaining safety standards, which resulted in several stuntmen being injured, and several horses being killed. DeMille was in the habit of screaming through his megaphone at the stuntmen. One of the stuntmen, who was hired for his skills as an expert archer, finally got fed up and, loading his bow with an arrow, shot the arrow directly at DeMille; it lodged itself in DeMille's megaphone (while he was holding it). That reportedly cured him of shouting at the stuntmen.
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 11, 2020 1:01:52 GMT
He coulda been a contender: Cecil B. DeMille--there are many stories about how he treated /mistreated his actors. At least Charles Laughton showed him up once. I heard when they did a film together DeMille was standing by a river and Laughton was seated on the ground and DeMille started to rave with flowery language about being in the spot making him feel closer to God and Laughton replied: "how cozy."
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Post by Winter_King on Sept 11, 2020 8:30:03 GMT
Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer Oh yeah. Those guys single handedly ruined the spoof genre. They should be drawn and quartered.
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Post by Winter_King on Sept 11, 2020 8:31:16 GMT
The one that makes me go “ugh” when mentioned is Michael Bay. I know there are worse directors out there, but none as successful or well known. The Michael Bay copy cats are even worse.
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Post by telegonus on Sept 11, 2020 9:25:07 GMT
Maybe a tie between: 1) Fritz Lang -- a technician tried to drop an overhead lamp on him during the shooting of FURY in 1936 ... his first American film. 2) Otto Preminger -- he practically drove actor Tom Tryon out of performing and into a successful writing career by making him miserable during the filming of THE CARDINAL and IN HARM'S WAY. He even got slapped by Robert Mitchum while filming ANGEL FACE during the slapping scene involving Jean Simmons. After several takes that displeased the director, Mitchum walked over to him and said: "Do you mean like this, Otto?" (whack!) 3) Might throw in Erich Von Stroheim as well. Must be something about those German filmmakers. I've heard some nasty things about Henry Hathaway, who directed some outstanding films, especially early on, was, from what I've heard about him personally, a nasty S.O.B. to work with.
Fritz Lang, for sure, though his actual film work holds up nicely.
There's always been such love and respect for John Ford as an artist I've never heard about people hating him, just making excuses for his sadism (heavy drinking, etc.). Nasty guy at times, he reduced protegee John Wayne to tears on at least one occasion.
Cecil B.De Mille and Sam Wood made enemies for political reasons, though each had his admirers.
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Post by marianne48 on Sept 11, 2020 19:33:25 GMT
On the set of Mister Roberts, James Cagney claimed Ford was "so mean to everybody. Truly a nasty old man." Henry Fonda ended up punching Ford in the mouth. Ford warned Cagney that he and Cagney would eventually come to blows on the set; he should have known better than to mess with Cagney, who called Ford's bluff after Ford rebuked him for being late. Ford backed down from the fight and left him alone after that.
Ford was often too liquored up to direct the film, and cast member Ward Bond sometimes took over for him. Bond had a strong speaking voice; maybe that's why everyone sounds so loud in this movie.
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Post by dwightmachinehead on Sept 11, 2020 21:23:02 GMT
George Lucas used to get a lot of hate for the Star Wars prequels and special editions before Disney got even more hate for the sequel trilogy. There's even a documentary called The People Vs George Lucas.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 12, 2020 17:49:49 GMT
Kevin Smith
Quentin Tarantino
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