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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 10, 2020 12:01:35 GMT
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Tom Brady .771 Brady's record is mind-blowing considering it averages out after so many seasons with teams seeing their good and bad days. Because of his greatness his teams have never seen bad days. And he's done it on the road: Brady 101-46 Ben 69-43 Rodgers 49-44 Brees 78-63
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 10, 2020 13:40:44 GMT
Brady's record is mind-blowing considering it averages out after so many seasons with teams seeing their good and bad days. Because of his greatness his teams have never seen bad days. And he's done it on the road: Brady 101-46 Ben 69-43 Rodgers 49-44 Brees 78-63 Home, away, outdoors, in a dome, rain, snow, wind, you name it. Brady has won 3 AFC championship games on the road (and came a hair away from winning two more, 2015 at Denver and 2006 at Indy).
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:19:48 GMT
Active* QB winning % (regular season, 25+ starts)
Tom Brady .771 Brady's record is mind-blowing considering it averages out after so many seasons with teams seeing their good and bad days. Because of his greatness his teams have never seen bad days. I disagree. These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:23:27 GMT
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Lamar Jackson .833 Patrick Mahomes .800 Tom Brady .771 Jimmy Garoppolo .750 Ben Roethlisberger .681 Russell Wilson .680 Aaron Rodgers .667 Jared Goff .613 Josh Allen .611 Dak Prescott .609 Drew Brees .599 Mitchell Trubisky .591 Alex Smith .587 Teddy Bridgewater .581 Matt Ryan .566 Joe Flacco .563 Carson Wentz .555 Philip Rivers .552 Cam Newton .546 Tyrod Taylor .533 Andy Dalton .528 Trevor Siemian .520 Ryan Tannehill .519 Nick Foles .519 Matt Schaub .505 Kirk Cousins .500 Matt Moore .500 Worst (10+ games)DeShone Kizer .000 C.J. Beathard .100 Cody Kessler .167 Josh Rosen .188 Daniel Jones .238 Colt McCoy .250 Blaine Gabbert .271 Dwayne Haskins .273 Mike Glennon .273 Josh McCown .303 Blake Bortles .329 Chad Henne .340 Sam Darnold .344 Nick Mullens .364 Gardner Minshew .368 Jacoby Brissett .375 Geno Smith .387 Robert Griffin III .390 * - Or have not officially retired These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 10, 2020 16:33:10 GMT
Active* QB winning % (regular season, 25+ starts)
Lamar Jackson .833 Patrick Mahomes .800 Tom Brady .771 Jimmy Garoppolo .750 Ben Roethlisberger .681 Russell Wilson .680 Aaron Rodgers .667 Jared Goff .613 Josh Allen .611 Dak Prescott .609 Drew Brees .599 Mitchell Trubisky .591 Alex Smith .587 Teddy Bridgewater .581 Matt Ryan .566 Joe Flacco .563 Carson Wentz .555 Philip Rivers .552 Cam Newton .546 Tyrod Taylor .533 Andy Dalton .528 Trevor Siemian .520 Ryan Tannehill .519 Nick Foles .519 Matt Schaub .505 Kirk Cousins .500 Matt Moore .500 Worst (10+ games)DeShone Kizer .000 C.J. Beathard .100 Cody Kessler .167 Josh Rosen .188 Daniel Jones .238 Colt McCoy .250 Blaine Gabbert .271 Dwayne Haskins .273 Mike Glennon .273 Josh McCown .303 Blake Bortles .329 Chad Henne .340 Sam Darnold .344 Nick Mullens .364 Gardner Minshew .368 Jacoby Brissett .375 Geno Smith .387 Robert Griffin III .390 * - Or have not officially retired These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is.
Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady.
Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson.
I don't think anyone is making that argument. Though I'm pretty sure if you were building a team right now, you'd take Lamar over Brady.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 10, 2020 16:36:47 GMT
Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. As far as Brees is concerned, I don't think he's being portrayed as average. Take out the guys ahead of him who have been starters for fewer than 5 years (and thus have skewed percentages) and he's right there around the top.
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 10, 2020 16:43:06 GMT
Brady's record is mind-blowing considering it averages out after so many seasons with teams seeing their good and bad days. Because of his greatness his teams have never seen bad days. I disagree. These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. You are comparing Jimmy G and his 32 games started to Big Ben and his 224, and to Russell Wilson and his 136. If Jimmy can continue to win 75% of his games for another 100 games, most people will consider him better than those two. But Jimmy won't even start another 100 games. Likewise, Lamar Jackson has started 35 games. If he continues to win 85% of his game for the next 10 years, he might be considered better than Brady. He'll need to do it in the postseason, though, and against good teams. Two things he had failed miserably at so far. You can't compare a couple seasons to a hall of fame resume. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 10, 2020 16:44:00 GMT
Active* QB winning % (regular season, 25+ starts)
Lamar Jackson .833 Patrick Mahomes .800 Tom Brady .771 Jimmy Garoppolo .750 Ben Roethlisberger .681 Russell Wilson .680 Aaron Rodgers .667 Jared Goff .613 Josh Allen .611 Dak Prescott .609 Drew Brees .599 Mitchell Trubisky .591 Alex Smith .587 Teddy Bridgewater .581 Matt Ryan .566 Joe Flacco .563 Carson Wentz .555 Philip Rivers .552 Cam Newton .546 Tyrod Taylor .533 Andy Dalton .528 Trevor Siemian .520 Ryan Tannehill .519 Nick Foles .519 Matt Schaub .505 Kirk Cousins .500 Matt Moore .500 Worst (10+ games)DeShone Kizer .000 C.J. Beathard .100 Cody Kessler .167 Josh Rosen .188 Daniel Jones .238 Colt McCoy .250 Blaine Gabbert .271 Dwayne Haskins .273 Mike Glennon .273 Josh McCown .303 Blake Bortles .329 Chad Henne .340 Sam Darnold .344 Nick Mullens .364 Gardner Minshew .368 Jacoby Brissett .375 Geno Smith .387 Robert Griffin III .390 * - Or have not officially retired These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. You are comparing Jimmy G and his 32 games started to Big Ben and his 224, and to Russell Wilson and his 136. If Jimmy can continue to win 75% of his games for another 100 games, most people will consider him better than those two. But Jimmy won't even start another 100 games. Likewise, Lamar Jackson has started 35 games. If he continues to win 85% of his game for the next 10 years, he might be considered better than Brady. He'll need to do it in the postseason, though, and against good teams. Two things he had failed miserably at so far. You can't compare a couple seasons to a hall of fame resume. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 10, 2020 16:44:01 GMT
These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. Always good to do a bunch of work and have someone shit all over it, and for a claim not being made.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:48:52 GMT
These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. Always good to do a bunch of work and have someone shit all over it, and for a claim not being made. I'm not shitting on your work. I'm just clarifying how to interpret your work. |
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Nov 10, 2020 16:48:59 GMT
Ben Roethlisberger and 3 other Steelers have been placed on the Covid reserve list
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:50:07 GMT
I disagree. These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is. Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady. Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson. Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. You are comparing Jimmy G and his 32 games started to Big Ben and his 224, and to Russell Wilson and his 136. If Jimmy can continue to win 75% of his games for another 100 games, most people will consider him better than those two. But Jimmy won't even start another 100 games. Likewise, Lamar Jackson has started 35 games. If he continues to win 85% of his game for the next 10 years, he might be considered better than Brady. He'll need to do it in the postseason, though, and against good teams. Two things he had failed miserably at so far. You can't compare a couple seasons to a hall of fame resume. I'm not comparing anything. I'm just pointing out how useless these stats are. |
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 10, 2020 16:52:41 GMT
Stats should be seen in context only. After two decades maintaining a high win percentage is not the same as having a high win percentage for a season or two. Jackson is a good quarterback. I seriously doubt he will be rated anything more than good. He won't make it to "great" list. Just good. Of course, I may have underestimated his talent and prove wrong. But he will need to play a decade more to prove himself. Brady could have retired half a decade back and would still have been a great quarterback.
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:53:35 GMT
These stats are virtually useless. Wins are mostly dependent on the team, coaches, players, defense, offense, talent level, etc. Winning percentage is not an accurate indication of how good a quarterback is.
Lamar Jackson is not a better quarterback than Tom Brady.
Jimmy Garoppolo is not a better quarterback than Ben Roethlisberger and Russel Wilson.
I don't think anyone is making that argument. Though I'm pretty sure if you were building a team right now, you'd take Lamar over Brady. That is not being stated in the post that initially posted these stats. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 16:54:52 GMT
Drew Brees and Matt Ryan are inaccurately being portrayed as average quarterbacks only because they play on mediocre teams. As far as Brees is concerned, I don't think he's being portrayed as average. Take out the guys ahead of him who have been starters for fewer than 5 years (and thus have skewed percentages) and he's right there around the top. He's being portrayed as average in the initial post that posted these stats. |
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 10, 2020 16:59:38 GMT
Ben Roethlisberger and 3 other Steelers have been placed on the Covid reserve list Not his first time being placed on a list. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 10, 2020 17:02:07 GMT
You are comparing Jimmy G and his 32 games started to Big Ben and his 224, and to Russell Wilson and his 136. If Jimmy can continue to win 75% of his games for another 100 games, most people will consider him better than those two. But Jimmy won't even start another 100 games. Likewise, Lamar Jackson has started 35 games. If he continues to win 85% of his game for the next 10 years, he might be considered better than Brady. He'll need to do it in the postseason, though, and against good teams. Two things he had failed miserably at so far. You can't compare a couple seasons to a hall of fame resume. I'm not comparing anything. I'm just pointing out how useless these stats are. They aren't useless at all though, as pointed out by how your argument against them was destroyed. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 17:05:41 GMT
I'm not comparing anything. I'm just pointing out how useless these stats are. They aren't useless at all though, as pointed out by how your argument against them was destroyed. Just because you are delusional, doesn't mean anything, other than you are delusional. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Nov 10, 2020 17:16:55 GMT
They aren't useless at all though, as pointed out by how your argument against them was destroyed. Just because you are delusional, doesn't mean anything, other than you are delusional. Except, once again, you're all by yourself on this imaginary ledge you waddled out on. |
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Post by movieliker on Nov 10, 2020 17:22:29 GMT
Just because you are delusional, doesn't mean anything, other than you are delusional. Except, once again, you're all by yourself on this imaginary ledge you waddled out on. Hello? Hello? Does anybody hear that? It sounds like a little bug. By the way, whatever happened to hehatesshe? |
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