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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 8, 2020 22:10:00 GMT
Tipping should not be a necessity, nor a requirement. It is a fabricated social entitlement in many countries and is only born out of businesses paying their staff meager wages. A price is a price and that is all the cafe/diner/restaurant and staff is entitled too. Any tipping need be left up to the customer'(s)/diner'(s) and NO negative stigma should be EVER be projected onto a customer who pays their bill as quoted from prices listed + any tax. The rest is a conceited expectation. Change the pricing, so staff can earn better wages if its a problem. I agree with you to a point. All restaurants would have to agree to this-that's a lot of restaurants. For something that's been going on for a long, long, long time-I'd like to see how that switch over would come to be. With the exception of large groups, where the tip is automatic in most places(which people complain about). It might take away the server who goes the extra mile. I own a food establishment, but it's me. And while people will tip me, a lot nowadays-I'm not dependent on them. I just ask that they continue to come in. But those who do serve as a living, they are extremely dependent on those tips. You can blame the business owner. But many were not owners at the time the tip was established. Like I said, they would all have to go in on this in order for it to work out right for the employees. I feel it is up to each business to adopt a practice of ethical running of their business and doing right by both their staff and customers. One doesn’t need to follow the sheep. Precedents can always be set and the rest filters on through. If meal prices have to be raised, then ensure quality of prep and service. This should be an expectation. As long as the customer isn’t feeling pressured to tip, and this can also not be encouraged but graciously honoured if given, then out of satisfaction, some may tip regardless. I don’t live in the US. The restaurants I worked at in the kitchen, it was practice for the wait staff to handover all tips and then once counted, evenly distributed amongst themselves at end of shift.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 23:48:18 GMT
My guy tips, but I don't think it's enough. It's an ingoing debate, and he'll pick up food as opposed to having it delivered to avoid having to tip. I don't think him not tipping is "bad" per se, because it sounds like a cultural thing with him. I think you should encourage him to tip more though.
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Post by moonchild on Sept 8, 2020 23:52:11 GMT
I don't tip when picking up but I always tip when dining in or getting food delivered
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Post by sweetpea on Sept 9, 2020 12:07:03 GMT
I agree with you to a point. All restaurants would have to agree to this-that's a lot of restaurants. For something that's been going on for a long, long, long time-I'd like to see how that switch over would come to be. With the exception of large groups, where the tip is automatic in most places(which people complain about). It might take away the server who goes the extra mile. I own a food establishment, but it's me. And while people will tip me, a lot nowadays-I'm not dependent on them. I just ask that they continue to come in. But those who do serve as a living, they are extremely dependent on those tips. You can blame the business owner. But many were not owners at the time the tip was established. Like I said, they would all have to go in on this in order for it to work out right for the employees. I feel it is up to each business to adopt a practice of ethical running of their business and doing right by both their staff and customers. One doesn’t need to follow the sheep. Precedents can always be set and the rest filters on through. If meal prices have to be raised, then ensure quality of prep and service. This should be an expectation. As long as the customer isn’t feeling pressured to tip, and this can also not be encouraged but graciously honoured if given, then out of satisfaction, some may tip regardless. I don’t live in the US. The restaurants I worked at in the kitchen, it was practice for the wait staff to handover all tips and then once counted, evenly distributed amongst themselves at end of shift. Some restaurants here handover the tips as well. What you say about the food businesses is true. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it can or will happen. It's not just the food biz that goes on tips. You're kind of talking about a culture. That's something hard to change, especially when it comes to money 
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 9, 2020 12:15:02 GMT
I feel it is up to each business to adopt a practice of ethical running of their business and doing right by both their staff and customers. One doesn’t need to follow the sheep. Precedents can always be set and the rest filters on through. If meal prices have to be raised, then ensure quality of prep and service. This should be an expectation. As long as the customer isn’t feeling pressured to tip, and this can also not be encouraged but graciously honoured if given, then out of satisfaction, some may tip regardless. I don’t live in the US. The restaurants I worked at in the kitchen, it was practice for the wait staff to handover all tips and then once counted, evenly distributed amongst themselves at end of shift. Some restaurants here handover the tips as well. What you say about the food businesses is true. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it can or will happen. It's not just the food biz that goes on tips. You're kind of talking about a culture. That's something hard to change, especially when it comes to money I am largely referring to the food industry, the rest is a slightly different dynamic. The culture of dining is something that affects everybody. One need only take care of their own personal universe. To not want to make a change, or implement something because others aren’t doing it can be a cop out. No-one would attempt anything otherwise if always wondering about what the Joneses are up too. It starts at ones own doorstep.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 13:17:34 GMT
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job. nice lol. good movie
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Post by Winter_King on Sept 9, 2020 13:24:00 GMT
My guy tips, but I don't think it's enough. It's an ingoing debate, and he'll pick up food as opposed to having it delivered to avoid having to tip. I don't think him not tipping is "bad" per se, because it sounds like a cultural thing with him. I think you should encourage him to tip more though. It might be. My country doesn't have the same tipping culture of the United States so tips are not really expected around here.
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Post by sweetpea on Sept 9, 2020 17:18:10 GMT
Some restaurants here handover the tips as well. What you say about the food businesses is true. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it can or will happen. It's not just the food biz that goes on tips. You're kind of talking about a culture. That's something hard to change, especially when it comes to money I am largely referring to the food industry, the rest is a slightly different dynamic. The culture of dining is something that affects everybody. One need only take care of their own personal universe. To not want to make a change, or implement something because others aren’t doing it can be a cop out. No-one would attempt anything otherwise if always wondering about what the Joneses are up too. It starts at ones own doorstep. What I mean is a great deal of jobs are based on tips-a tips-society if you will. I hate to say it, but these days it takes more than one person to get much of anything done when it comes to change. Crimeny people can't even agree on the "masks". Whether it works or not, the chance to help another person merely by wearing a mask angers people. So money involved?  Yea, that would go over well. Keep in mind, this is not me. Just reporting how I know some people can be....
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Post by Jayman on Sept 9, 2020 20:47:57 GMT
I never like to stiff anybody. I overtip most of the time. I think I have posted about this before. What I don't like is when I see tip jars at a pizza place or bagel place where I feel like I am compelled to give a tip to somebody for taking a couple of slices of pizza and putting it on a plate. Or taking a bagel and putting it in a bag. That I don't like. Next thing we'll be seeing a tip jar at a supermarket or 7 eleven where people are throwing money in a jar because some guy ringed up a can of soda for you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 20:52:53 GMT
I never like to stiff anybody. I overtip most of the time. I think I have posted about this before. What I don't like is when I see tip jars at a pizza place or bagel place where I feel like I am compelled to give a tip to somebody for taking a couple of slices of pizza and putting it on a plate. Or taking a bagel and putting it in a bag. That I don't like. Next thing we'll be seeing a tip jar at a supermarket or 7 eleven where people are throwing money in a jar because some guy ringed up a can of soda for you. I tip 15% in America and 10% in Canada.
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Post by Stammerhead on Sept 10, 2020 12:14:19 GMT
When Gordon Ramsey leaves a tip he leaves a note telling the owner to fire the fucking chef.
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Yea, that would go over well. Keep in mind, this is not me. Just reporting how I know some people can be....
