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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 23:59:08 GMT
is this bad?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 8, 2020 0:08:09 GMT
Well that would depend on the tipping culture where you are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 0:24:08 GMT
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Post by enigma72 on Sept 8, 2020 0:25:44 GMT
Lol
Have you asked him why bon?
My husband over tips. Drives me nuts!
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Post by autumn on Sept 8, 2020 0:36:08 GMT
Better to over-tip than under-tip or not tip at all, especially in this covid culture where people are barely scraping by. These people are relying on their tips to make it.
I always over-tip unless the service is truly dreadful.
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Post by enigma72 on Sept 8, 2020 2:05:33 GMT
Better to over-tip than under-tip or not tip at all, especially in this covid culture where people are barely scraping by. These people are relying on their tips to make it. I always over-tip unless the service is truly dreadful. He starts at 25 percent . If they are good it goes up. And autumn we haven't been dining since March 13th so this was pre covid. Now he'd probably start at 50 percent. Lol |
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Post by onethreetwo on Sept 8, 2020 2:18:24 GMT
If you can afford to tip you really should. I am sympathetic to people who can't though, if they really can't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 4:04:50 GMT
If you can afford to tip you really should. I am sympathetic to people who can't though, if they really can't. he insisted on ordering takeout because he doesn't want to eat my sandwiches or frozen expired sausages.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 8, 2020 4:08:44 GMT
SOUNDS LIKE BLISS!
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Post by gameboy on Sept 8, 2020 5:25:23 GMT
Never return to that restaurant again if you don't want something unpleasant in your food next time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 5:30:03 GMT
Yeah that's lame. Date me instead
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 8, 2020 7:02:35 GMT
Is he Mr. Pink?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 8, 2020 9:17:52 GMT
Tipping should not be a necessity, nor a requirement. It is a fabricated social entitlement in many countries and is only born out of businesses paying their staff meager wages.
A price is a price and that is all the cafe/diner/restaurant and staff is entitled too. Any tipping need be left up to the customer'(s)/diner'(s) and NO negative stigma should be EVER be projected onto a customer who pays their bill as quoted from prices listed + any tax. The rest is a conceited expectation. Change the pricing, so staff can earn better wages if its a problem.
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Post by Winter_King on Sept 8, 2020 9:47:58 GMT
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Sept 8, 2020 13:00:51 GMT
I guess it all depends on the situation.
If one is picking up an order from a restaurant, I don't put a tip.
If I'm eating out at a restaurant (which is very rare because I really don't like to eat out at a restaurant), I do leave a tip.
Here's the funny thing about that, though.
I always thought the ideal tip was 10% of the bill. I found out later that one should leave a 15% tip if one receives good service, and 20% if one receives great service.
Meanwhile, a friend of mine who was a manager at a restaurant where I used to frequent - he must have thought I was a cheapskate by only tipping 10%. 
Joker's Wilde
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Post by sweetpea on Sept 8, 2020 17:53:00 GMT
Tipping should not be a necessity, nor a requirement. It is a fabricated social entitlement in many countries and is only born out of businesses paying their staff meager wages. A price is a price and that is all the cafe/diner/restaurant and staff is entitled too. Any tipping need be left up to the customer'(s)/diner'(s) and NO negative stigma should be EVER be projected onto a customer who pays their bill as quoted from prices listed + any tax. The rest is a conceited expectation. Change the pricing, so staff can earn better wages if its a problem. I agree with you to a point. All restaurants would have to agree to this-that's a lot of restaurants. For something that's been going on for a long, long, long time-I'd like to see how that switch over would come to be. With the exception of large groups, where the tip is automatic in most places(which people complain about). It might take away the server who goes the extra mile. I own a food establishment, but it's me. And while people will tip me, a lot nowadays-I'm not dependent on them. I just ask that they continue to come in. But those who do serve as a living, they are extremely dependent on those tips. You can blame the business owner. But many were not owners at the time the tip was established. Like I said, they would all have to go in on this in order for it to work out right for the employees.
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Post by autumn on Sept 8, 2020 20:54:19 GMT
Better to over-tip than under-tip or not tip at all, especially in this covid culture where people are barely scraping by. These people are relying on their tips to make it. I always over-tip unless the service is truly dreadful. He starts at 25 percent . If they are good it goes up. And autumn we haven't been dining since March 13th so this was pre covid. Now he'd probably start at 50 percent. Lol I'm a generous tipper, but definitely not 50%! Wow! lol
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Post by avocadojoe on Sept 8, 2020 20:56:23 GMT
I guess it depends where you live. Tipping is a custom. Some places in the world you tip (e.g., America), but a lot of places you don't. |
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Post by avocadojoe on Sept 8, 2020 21:14:03 GMT
Tipping should not be a necessity, nor a requirement. It is a fabricated social entitlement in many countries and is only born out of businesses paying their staff meager wages. A price is a price and that is all the cafe/diner/restaurant and staff is entitled too. Any tipping need be left up to the customer'(s)/diner'(s) and NO negative stigma should be EVER be projected onto a customer who pays their bill as quoted from prices listed + any tax. The rest is a conceited expectation. Change the pricing, so staff can earn better wages if its a problem. The main thing is (and you've already stated it) is that restaurants pay their servers a wage that is obscenely low. When I worked in a restaurant (late 80s/early 90s - as a busboy), the waiters were paid two dollars an hour. And they work their butts off. This is way lower than minimum wage. I know it all varies from country to country. And I guess it's just a built in understanding where I live that the customers are going to tip around 15%. Sonetimes more, sometimes less- it would be a factor of the server's competence + the customer's generosity. I've never questioned it. Except when I went to Amsterdam and my friend (who lived there) said you weren't really supposed to tip. But it is kind of an expectation here. I can't explain it any better than this. All I can say is when in Rome... |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 8, 2020 21:59:12 GMT
Tipping should not be a necessity, nor a requirement. It is a fabricated social entitlement in many countries and is only born out of businesses paying their staff meager wages. A price is a price and that is all the cafe/diner/restaurant and staff is entitled too. Any tipping need be left up to the customer'(s)/diner'(s) and NO negative stigma should be EVER be projected onto a customer who pays their bill as quoted from prices listed + any tax. The rest is a conceited expectation. Change the pricing, so staff can earn better wages if its a problem. The main thing is (and you've already stated it) is that restaurants pay their servers a wage that is obscenely low. When I worked in a restaurant (late 80s/early 90s - as a busboy), the waiters were paid two dollars an hour. And they work their butts off. This is way lower than minimum wage. I know it all varies from country to country. And I guess it's just a built in understanding where I live that the customers are going to tip around 15%. Sonetimes more, sometimes less- it would be a factor of the server's competence + the customer's generosity. I've never questioned it. Except when I went to Amsterdam and my friend (who lived there) said you weren't really supposed to tip. But it is kind of an expectation here. I can't explain it any better than this. All I can say is when in Rome... While it is perceived as customary, the wages being paid is exploitation and it then becomes about exploiting the customer by expecting them to pay a tip, especially when it is added onto the bill. It is a corrupt business practice that has unfortunately become a traditional “norm” especially in Nth America. I rarely tip, unless out with a big group and the bill is shared evenly and if the prices are reasonable it’s not a problem. Wages in Australia are relatively higher too. Any tipping is a bonus, prices in many places can be high and there is no expectation placed on the customer. Heck, a local Indian prides itself on giving a discount on the bill. What’s the point of tipping? They are happy for the patronage and takeaways are the big business. Pre-paid online including delivery fee. Any cash tip will go to the deliverer, yet again, not anticipated. With cashless transactions being a new norm, it will become more difficult to tip cash as well. I very rarely have a note in my wallet. Like you mentioned though, when in Rome do as the Roman’s do. Accept or disapprove the custom, one will just have to humble themselves into it depending on where one is visiting.
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