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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 0:53:13 GMT
Non sequitur. What doctors decide to put on a hermaphrodite's birth certificate is irrelevant. I beg to differ. You've currently got a long-running thread on this board about it, and I think it amply illustrates the capacity of the human mind to deny evidence which supports a disturbing possibility. Same principle with the space program. Decades of lies and deception coming apart at the seams because people are spotting the errors in the deception. It's too intense, man. Too intense. Running in circles tends to needlessly prolong discussions.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 0:56:31 GMT
Actually, no. It's what I'm doing as evidenced by your response: "Yes, I know all that. That stuff is obvious."I am completely lost now and too lazy to retrace my steps.  It was really just a polite way of saying... "Yes, I know all that. That stuff is obvious. "...then why did it take seven responses? Let me know if you want to take the gloves off. 
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 1:03:00 GMT
I beg to differ. You've currently got a long-running thread on this board about it, and I think it amply illustrates the capacity of the human mind to deny evidence which supports a disturbing possibility. Same principle with the space program. Decades of lies and deception coming apart at the seams because people are spotting the errors in the deception. It's too intense, man. Too intense. Running in circles tends to needlessly prolong discussions. In that case let's take a break and watch a video.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 14, 2020 1:04:33 GMT
I am completely lost now and too lazy to retrace my steps. It was really just a polite way of saying... "Yes, I know all that. That stuff is obvious. "
...then why did it take seven responses?
Let me know if you want to take the gloves off. Because I didn't understand that that is what you were saying before. I seem to have misunderstood what you were getting at originally.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:05:15 GMT
Running in circles tends to needlessly prolong discussions. In that case let's take a break and watch a video. I'd love to, but do you have something else? I don't care about the ISS.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:05:52 GMT
It was really just a polite way of saying... "Yes, I know all that. That stuff is obvious. "
...then why did it take seven responses?
Let me know if you want to take the gloves off. Because I didn't understand that that is what you were saying before. I seem to have misunderstood what you were getting at originally. Hey, you're not lost anymore! Sweet. Hello.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 1:08:44 GMT
In that case let's take a break and watch a video. I'd love to, but do you have something else? I don't care about the ISS. All I've got ones about the Covid19 hoax, and something tells me you're not going to be interested in them either.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:12:29 GMT
I'd love to, but do you have something else? I don't care about the ISS. All I've got ones about the Covid19 hoax, and something tells me you're not going to be interested in them either. I'm more interested in what makes people tick than what they're ticking about. I'm sorry, did you think we were talking about the ISS? Because I thought you were just using it as an example, hence why it was in brackets.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 1:18:23 GMT
All I've got ones about the Covid19 hoax, and something tells me you're not going to be interested in them either. I'm more interested in what makes people tick than what they're ticking about. I'm sorry, did you think we were talking about the ISS? Because I thought you were just using it as an example, hence why it was in brackets. I was using it as an example; an example of how a falsehood can continue to be accepted as truth because people are so reluctant to admit they've been conned.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:24:28 GMT
I'm more interested in what makes people tick than what they're ticking about. I'm sorry, did you think we were talking about the ISS? Because I thought you were just using it as an example, hence why it was in brackets. I was using it as an example; an example of how a falsehood can continue to be accepted as truth because people are so reluctant to admit they've been conned. Well, now that we're both recapping the chat we just had, can we talk about gaslighting? Specifically, I'm curious as to what made you think I was attempting to make you question your own sanity.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 1:34:48 GMT
I was using it as an example; an example of how a falsehood can continue to be accepted as truth because people are so reluctant to admit they've been conned. Well, now that we're both recapping the chat we just had, can we talk about gaslighting? Specifically, I'm curious as to what made you think I was attempting to make you question your own sanity. It was this post..... .....and as I said earlier people lie to themselves every day, and they believe their own lies. Ugly people convince themselves that they're good-looking. Stupid people convince themselves that they're smart. Wicked people convince themselves that they're good. And even good people convince themselves that their government is committed to being honest with them.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:45:05 GMT
Well, now that we're both recapping the chat we just had, can we talk about gaslighting? Specifically, I'm curious as to what made you think I was attempting to make you question your own sanity. It was this post..... .....and as I said earlier people lie to themselves every day, and they believe their own lies. Ugly people convince themselves that they're good-looking. Stupid people convince themselves that they're smart. Wicked people convince themselves that they're good. And even good people convince themselves that their government is committed to being honest with them. Those are all subjective descriptions. What one finds ugly, another finds beautiful. As for believing something you know isn't true - or vice versa - I didn't mean you specifically. However, if you, Erjen, do indeed believe the lies you tell yourself, perhaps the shoe fits and that little glimmer of reality was introspective.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 1:49:19 GMT
It was this post..... .....and as I said earlier people lie to themselves every day, and they believe their own lies. Ugly people convince themselves that they're good-looking. Stupid people convince themselves that they're smart. Wicked people convince themselves that they're good. And even good people convince themselves that their government is committed to being honest with them. Those are all subjective descriptions. What one finds ugly, another finds beautiful. As for believing something you know isn't true - or vice versa - I didn't mean you specifically. However, if you, Erjen, do indeed believe the lies you tell yourself, perhaps the shoe fits and that little glimmer of reality was introspective. Well, I hope I don't tell myself lies in the first place, but if I ever do then I definitely don't want to believe them.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 1:52:37 GMT
Those are all subjective descriptions. What one finds ugly, another finds beautiful. As for believing something you know isn't true - or vice versa - I didn't mean you specifically. However, if you, Erjen, do indeed believe the lies you tell yourself, perhaps the shoe fits and that little glimmer of reality was introspective. Well, I hope I don't tell myself lies in the first place, but if I ever do then I definitely don't want to believe them. The question is, could you believe it? Is it even possible? I mean, you know it's a lie because you're the one telling it...
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 2:09:07 GMT
Well, I hope I don't tell myself lies in the first place, but if I ever do then I definitely don't want to believe them. The question is, could you believe it? Is it even possible? I mean, you know it's a lie because you're the one telling it... Of course, I could believe it....if I allowed it. I guess what you're getting at is that a lie by definition must be known as false by the teller, whereas I'm just using the word in a more general sense.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2020 2:15:41 GMT
The question is, could you believe it? Is it even possible? I mean, you know it's a lie because you're the one telling it... Of course, I could believe it....if I allowed it. I guess what you're getting at is that a lie by definition must be known as false by the teller, whereas I'm just using the word in a more general sense. There's no "general sense" here. A lie is a deliberate untruth. Someone who tries to pass a math test but fails doesn't do so because he lied.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2020 2:20:51 GMT
Of course, I could believe it....if I allowed it. I guess what you're getting at is that a lie by definition must be known as false by the teller, whereas I'm just using the word in a more general sense. There's no "general sense" here. A lie is a deliberate untruth. Someone who tries to pass a math test but fails doesn't do so because he lied. What would you call it when a person deliberately believes something that isn't true because he/she wants it to be true (or is afraid for it to not be true)? Self-delusion? Self-deception? If lie is the wrong word, pray tell me the right word.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:38:02 GMT
Who said every woman is? The question is do heterosexual women exist. That's not even close to the same thing. Who said heterosexual women don't exist? The OP, in a round about kind of way.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:41:13 GMT
I could provide enough evidence to support the notion that covid-19 was invented to help save Big Tobacco by destroying the vaping market. In fact, I could present a very believable case for it. But is that really where the evidence leads me, or it is just my interpretation of the evidence? It's easy to get so involved and so passionate about what you believe that you become (willfully?) blind as to who or what the leader actually is. Anything can be found if you look hard enough, even if it isn't really there. Conspiracy theorists look for conspiracies... Whatever you have to tell yourself, John. I've never said there isn't a real space station because I don't know, but if there is a real one why don't they show us real videos of it, instead of these CGI specials? Where is your proof that they are CGI specials? Nothing you have posted so far proves anything.
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Post by Jonesy1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:45:47 GMT
If you don't want to believe what you do believe, then you aren't deciding for yourself. Well if I'm not deciding for myself who is? The people who post conspiracy theories on YouTube, that's who.
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