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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 12, 2020 15:11:51 GMT
When I asked l7weenie who he was he said he was the poster He can't. That one was in the UK as I recall. The one in Canada (Jack Brock/Father Nelson/Brother Leroy), I talked with him on the phone once. Whenever someone mentions Bucky, l7weenie steps up to the plate and says Bucky isn't here anymore. Well how would he know? Even if he isn't Bucky, how could he be sure that Bucky isn't here anymore. The different posting style....doesn't mean a thing. Father Nelson/Weenie/Jack Brock/Brother Leroy deleted his account. I noticed that last night. Something must have burned him up, but it isn't worth wondering about because life has too many other important questions. And he'll probably be back soon under a new account if the pattern holds up.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 12, 2020 15:17:23 GMT
Father Nelson/Weenie/Jack Brock/Brother Leroy deleted his account. I noticed that last night. Something must have burned him up, but it isn't worth wondering about because life has too many other important questions. And he'll probably be back soon under a new account if the pattern holds up. I think he is a good guy. of course, he has always been nice to me so I have a reason to say that. Probably your experience is different.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 13, 2020 16:04:32 GMT
Boards are only as good as the number of participants or the variety of thought. Politics Board, which while repetitive, is at least fast paced. This board is dead by comparison. I pretty much switch over to Reddit for religious stuff because the board is huge. It's still largely a bunch of atheists whining about religion or turning it into a fake philosophical quandary of heavy rocks being lifted, but there are some original spins on topics and having nearly 60,000 people in that group means it never gets too terribly personal. It helps that they say "Regardless of our personal opinion with respect to someone’s beliefs or perspectives, we should not resort to name calling or other ad hominem attacks."
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 13, 2020 18:17:37 GMT
Boards are only as good as the number of participants or the variety of thought. Politics Board, which while repetitive, is at least fast paced. This board is dead by comparison. I pretty much switch over to Reddit for religious stuff because the board is huge. It's still largely a bunch of atheists whining about religion or turning it into a fake philosophical quandary of heavy rocks being lifted, but there are some original spins on topics and having nearly 60,000 people in that group means it never gets too terribly personal. It helps that they say "Regardless of our personal opinion with respect to someone’s beliefs or perspectives, we should not resort to name calling or other ad hominem attacks." It helps if you are children or escapist adults. It does not help if you actually want the truth.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 13, 2020 18:23:13 GMT
It helps that they say "Regardless of our personal opinion with respect to someone’s beliefs or perspectives, we should not resort to name calling or other ad hominem attacks." It helps if you are children or escapist adults. It does not help if you actually want the truth. Insulting someone rather than addressing their points discovers the truth? How's that work then? If I am rude to you rather than arguing point by point, would that bring the truth home better?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 13, 2020 19:03:18 GMT
Boards are only as good as the number of participants or the variety of thought. Politics Board, which while repetitive, is at least fast paced. This board is dead by comparison. I pretty much switch over to Reddit for religious stuff because the board is huge. It's still largely a bunch of atheists whining about religion or turning it into a fake philosophical quandary of heavy rocks being lifted, but there are some original spins on topics and having nearly 60,000 people in that group means it never gets too terribly personal. It helps that they say "Regardless of our personal opinion with respect to someone’s beliefs or perspectives, we should not resort to name calling or other ad hominem attacks." Exactly, the rules prohibit it making for cleaner discussions. Where insults are allowed insults can be flung.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 13, 2020 20:00:52 GMT
It helps if you are children or escapist adults. It does not help if you actually want the truth. Insulting someone rather than addressing their points discovers the truth? How's that work then? If I am rude to you rather than arguing point by point, would that bring the truth home better? It's not about anyone determining to be insulting. It's about determining to tell the truth no matter how unpleasant. That wasn't so difficult, was it? What you believe is "arguing point by point" does not matter because you are not capable of recognizing any points.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 13, 2020 20:14:20 GMT
It helps that they say "Regardless of our personal opinion with respect to someone’s beliefs or perspectives, we should not resort to name calling or other ad hominem attacks." Exactly, the rules prohibit it making for cleaner discussions. Where insults are allowed insults can be flung. I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news. You can play your little games on the internet, but do not try to run the world. The domination of the news by children on the internet will go down in history as a significant part of the reason the national debt is out of control.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 13, 2020 20:20:55 GMT
Exactly, the rules prohibit it making for cleaner discussions. Where insults are allowed insults can be flung. I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news. You can play your little games on the internet, but do not try to run the world. The domination of the news by children on the internet will go down in history as a significant part of the reason the national debt is out of control. "I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news." Translation: "When backed into a corner and have no counterarguments I resort to petty insults"
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 13, 2020 20:27:38 GMT
I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news. You can play your little games on the internet, but do not try to run the world. The domination of the news by children on the internet will go down in history as a significant part of the reason the national debt is out of control. "I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news." Translation: " When backed into a corner and have no counterarguments I resort to petty insults" I know you do, but what do I do? Is that more on your level?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 13, 2020 20:34:07 GMT
"I'm all for cleaner discussions myself, but at some point the children have to be told they do not run the news." Translation: " When backed into a corner and have no counterarguments I resort to petty insults" I know you do, but what do I do? Is that more on your level? Interesting how you didn't even try and deny what I said. Maybe you're finally being honest.
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 13, 2020 20:49:40 GMT
May be it's because of too much work and I like to spend most of my leisure time on watching sports or discussing sports on sports board. Or may be there's simply not much interest remaining in religion for me or the topics here are getting repeated. I know CoolJGS☺ has also kind of lost interest on this religion (even if he probably posts on religion board at reddit). Has anyone else lost interest in RFS? Yup. About a year ago!
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 13, 2020 20:52:09 GMT
May be it's because of too much work and I like to spend most of my leisure time on watching sports or discussing sports on sports board. Or may be there's simply not much interest remaining in religion for me or the topics here are getting repeated. I know CoolJGS☺ has also kind of lost interest on this religion (even if he probably posts on religion board at reddit). Has anyone else lost interest in RFS? Yup. About a year ago! Yeah, your post count on RFS has greatly dwindled so it seems you lost interest too.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 13, 2020 20:52:50 GMT
Insulting someone rather than addressing their points discovers the truth? How's that work then? If I am rude to you rather than arguing point by point, would that bring the truth home better? It's not about anyone determining to be insulting. It's about determining to tell the truth no matter how unpleasant. That wasn't so difficult, was it? What you believe is "arguing point by point" does not matter because you are not capable of recognizing any points. I see, so if instead of calmly responding to your various claims about religion and science I was ever instead to call you an arrogant and self-aggrandising scientific illiterate who regularly mocks the mentally handicapped, that would be determinedly telling the truth, no matter how unpleasant? No, that wouldn't be difficult to say at all, thanks. Got it. No need to reply to this with points as I would not be capable of recognising them.
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Post by captainbryce on Sept 14, 2020 15:55:13 GMT
Yeah, your post count on RFS has greatly dwindled so it seems you lost interest too. There’s been nothing of substance debated here in years. All of the arguments have been made, and the ratio of “thinking agents“ to “immovable sheep” is very poor. The stupid greatly outnumber the intelligent here, and I have have actual meaningful debates and religious/philosophical discussion in other forums that you don’t get here. Every now and again someone will tag me in a post, to which I respond. But that’s pretty much the extent of my contribution at this point.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 14, 2020 21:24:56 GMT
It's not about anyone determining to be insulting. It's about determining to tell the truth no matter how unpleasant. That wasn't so difficult, was it? What you believe is "arguing point by point" does not matter because you are not capable of recognizing any points. I see, so if instead of calmly responding to your various claims about religion and science I was ever instead to call you an arrogant and self-aggrandising scientific illiterate who regularly mocks the mentally handicapped, that would be determinedly telling the truth, no matter how unpleasant? No, that wouldn't be difficult to say at all, thanks. Got it. No need to reply to this with points as I would not be capable of recognising them. You can say anything that crosses your far wandering mind. No one cares, and I most certainly don't, obviously, except that I do care enough to mark where you have missed the point. I've tried to explain to you that you are the problem in these misunderstandings. You should know that no one including myself is going to wait for you to recognize logic you rather obviously cannot. "Evasion noted," "Where is your evidence?," and quite many other things you say are quite rude. You fail to understand what an insulting pompous idiot you are. That's what deludes you into believing you're any more polite. I sincerely hope this helps, but that isn't likely, is it?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 14, 2020 22:25:44 GMT
I see, so if instead of calmly responding to your various claims about religion and science I was ever instead to call you an arrogant and self-aggrandising scientific illiterate who regularly mocks the mentally handicapped, that would be determinedly telling the truth, no matter how unpleasant? No, that wouldn't be difficult to say at all, thanks. Got it. No need to reply to this with points as I would not be capable of recognising them. You can say anything that crosses your far wandering mind. No one cares, and I most certainly don't, obviously, except that I do care enough to mark where you have missed the point. I've tried to explain to you that you are the problem in these misunderstandings. You should know that no one including myself is going to wait for you to recognize logic you rather obviously cannot. "Evasion noted," "Where is your evidence?," and quite many other things you say are quite rude. You fail to understand what an insulting pompous idiot you are. That's what deludes you into believing you're any more polite. I sincerely hope this helps, but that isn't likely, is it? That you think being asked for evidence, or being reminded how you haven't answered a direct question (especially when you once explicitly claimed you always do) is 'rude' reveals more about you than I. But enough about you. I shall return to just calmly addressing your regular unsubstantiated opinions and peculiar anti-scientism, something much more entertaining and educational for everyone. Thank you for your latest ad hominems, anyway; while I certainly enjoyed your excuses for rudeness over argument.
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Post by goz on Sept 14, 2020 22:54:05 GMT
Yeah, your post count on RFS has greatly dwindled so it seems you lost interest too. There’s been nothing of substance debated here in years. All of the arguments have been made, and the ratio of “thinking agents“ to “immovable sheep” is very poor. The stupid greatly outnumber the intelligent here, and I have have actual meaningful debates and religious/philosophical discussion in other forums that you don’t get here. Every now and again someone will tag me in a post, to which I respond. But that’s pretty much the extent of my contribution at this point. Thankyou for honouring us with your new and improved illustrious presence. I remember on the old IMDb board when you were one of the unintelligent “immovable sheep” as a pronounced 'Christian' and your interminable boring threads on circumcision et al. If there is so much on here we don't talk about that is on other boards, I am surprised you haven't stunned and amazed us with your new found knowledge and wisdom!
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 15, 2020 10:19:55 GMT
You can say anything that crosses your far wandering mind. No one cares, and I most certainly don't, obviously, except that I do care enough to mark where you have missed the point. I've tried to explain to you that you are the problem in these misunderstandings. You should know that no one including myself is going to wait for you to recognize logic you rather obviously cannot. "Evasion noted," "Where is your evidence?," and quite many other things you say are quite rude. You fail to understand what an insulting pompous idiot you are. That's what deludes you into believing you're any more polite. I sincerely hope this helps, but that isn't likely, is it? That you think being asked for evidence, or being reminded how you haven't answered a direct question (especially when you once explicitly claimed you always do) is 'rude' reveals more about you than I. But enough about you. I shall return to just calmly addressing your regular unsubstantiated opinions and peculiar anti-scientism, something much more entertaining and educational for everyone. Thank you for your latest ad hominems, anyway; while I certainly enjoyed your excuses for rudeness over argument. That you remain oblivious of reality is not funny, and your clinging to your delusions in public would be very frightening, except that I am not easily frightened. I do find it very rude though when children order adults what to do. Somewhere along the line you got the notion that all you have to do is "ask" for evidence and that makes you a reasonable person. That's not how it works. There's much more to it. It is necessary to recognize answers when you get them and you never do. Since you never do your right to "ask" for evidence expires. It becomes necessary to order the unruly child to the principal's office, out of the classroom. You and most atheists have the minds of children and have become unruly because of the internet. Thank you in advance for finally realizing you should not run the world and for finding pass times more appropriate to you level of intellectual development. Have you tried Chutes and Ladders?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 15, 2020 19:07:54 GMT
That you think being asked for evidence, or being reminded how you haven't answered a direct question (especially when you once explicitly claimed you always do) is 'rude' reveals more about you than I. But enough about you. I shall return to just calmly addressing your regular unsubstantiated opinions and peculiar anti-scientism, something much more entertaining and educational for everyone. Thank you for your latest ad hominems, anyway; while I certainly enjoyed your excuses for rudeness over argument. That you remain oblivious of reality is not funny, and your clinging to your delusions in public would be very frightening, except that I am not easily frightened. I do find it very rude though when children order adults what to do. Somewhere along the line you got the notion that all you have to do is "ask" for evidence and that makes you a reasonable person. That's not how it works. There's much more to it. It is necessary to recognize answers when you get them and you never do. Since you never do your right to "ask" for evidence expires. It becomes necessary to order the unruly child to the principal's office, out of the classroom. You and most atheists have the minds of children and have become unruly because of the internet. Thank you in advance for finally realizing you should not run the world and for finding pass times more appropriate to you level of intellectual development. Have you tried Chutes and Ladders? I'm afraid that is exactly how it works, especially when one is confronted by sweeping, unsubstantiated opinions. As for not recognising answers, that would be because non-sequiturs and other evasions don't count. Fresh ad hominems noted.
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