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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 11, 2020 22:01:24 GMT
Best Picture winners that don't meet the Oscar inclusion requirements: www.yahoo.com/news/25-modern-best-picture-oscar-155653281.htmlSpotlight Argo The King's Speech The Departed LOTR: Return of the King A Beautiful Mind American Beauty Shakespeare in Love Titanic Braveheart Schindler's List Rain Man Amadeus Chariots of Fire Kramer vs. Kramer Annie Hall The Godfather The Godfather: Part II Patton Oliver! A Man for All Seasons My Fair Lady Tom Jones The Apartment Ben-Hur This list is probably extremely inaccurate for anything in the 21st century and probably 90's. It's like they based their research on a Breitbart or DailyCaller article about it. There's no way to police it though since it didn't matter.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 11, 2020 22:09:00 GMT
Racial quotas are bad for art. You do not get good art by eliminating merit--you get stale, artificial, oppressive mediocrity. But the Oscars was always about fake virtue signaling--the bigger problem is that it reveals how the corporate media thinks. They are admitting they will discriminate against Europeans and it was Europeans who invented both the dramatic structure used in film and the medium itself. Talk about audacity. It's like telling Italians they know nothing about pizza. This is why regional art and more national-focused art is better to encourage. Everyone gets represented--instead of trying to make one-size-fits-all art based on something other than merit and shutting out talent and audience preferences. Except it's not "racial quotas", though it's not surprising that I'm-not-racists are obsessed with the race part of the criteria. Is a publicist for the movie a woman? (And a majority of publicists are, in fact, female)? Does the distribution company have at least two interns from any minority or underrepresented group? Congratulations, you qualify. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 11, 2020 22:11:15 GMT
Best Picture winners that don't meet the Oscar inclusion requirements: www.yahoo.com/news/25-modern-best-picture-oscar-155653281.htmlSpotlight Argo The King's Speech The Departed LOTR: Return of the King A Beautiful Mind American Beauty Shakespeare in Love Titanic Braveheart Schindler's List Rain Man Amadeus Chariots of Fire Kramer vs. Kramer Annie Hall The Godfather The Godfather: Part II Patton Oliver! A Man for All Seasons My Fair Lady Tom Jones The Apartment Ben-Hur The only way anyone can actually believe this is if they have not actually read the new standards. You'd have to believe that none of them hose movies, or the studios who made them), had literally any minorities or women working for them in any capacity. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 11, 2020 23:53:19 GMT
Except it's not "racial quotas", though it's not surprising that I'm-not-racists are obsessed with the race part of the criteria. Is a publicist for the movie a woman? (And a majority of publicists are, in fact, female)? Does the distribution company have at least two interns from any minority or underrepresented group? Congratulations, you qualify. That's what they are signaling but we both know Hollywood does not give one fuck about social justice--that's why they were fine with Weinstein running a harem on the backlot. This is just more evidence of the mental deterioration in Hollywood. They might as well have a Best Pedophile category too.
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Post by Jason143 on Sept 11, 2020 23:56:56 GMT
The problem is that this sets a precedent. Many will say oh its not that different from how things are now. But its only the beginning. Gradually over the years, its likely these inclusive quotas will become narrower and narrower to a point probably where every movie will end up needing to represent the exact proportion of different people in general society at that time.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 12, 2020 1:19:48 GMT
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 12, 2020 1:50:50 GMT
Except it's not "racial quotas", though it's not surprising that I'm-not-racists are obsessed with the race part of the criteria. Is a publicist for the movie a woman? (And a majority of publicists are, in fact, female)? Does the distribution company have at least two interns from any minority or underrepresented group? Congratulations, you qualify. That's what they are signaling but we both know Hollywood does not give one fuck about social justice--that's why they were fine with Weinstein running a harem on the backlot. This is just more evidence of the mental deterioration in Hollywood. They might as well have a Best Pedophile category too.
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 12, 2020 2:04:28 GMT
"You can grab them by the p***y." -- Donald Trump I didn't know he was an Academy member.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Sept 12, 2020 2:29:43 GMT
I'm not reading through this topic because I don't really care about it, but I'm not sure what's sadder, the brick headed Academy embarrassing themselves more or the fact that people seem to care enough about nonsense awards to even complain about this new decision.
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Post by rudeboy on Sept 12, 2020 2:51:54 GMT
Apparently the most recent winner which would not have qualified is Braveheart, so I don’t think these new rules will have much of a tremor.
Even something aa seemingly white-boys’ club as The Irishman would be fine thanks to Rodrigo Prieto.
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Post by phantomparticle on Sept 12, 2020 3:21:52 GMT
The next step will be Decision by Computer.
The names of everyone in every segment of the entertainment industry from producer to the people who run the cafeteria will be placed in a computer with their descriptive designations.
A new department will be created called The Universal Casting and Support Division that will oversee all hiring choices.
In selecting his cast and crew for the movie, all the producer need do is hit the command for the number of roles to be filled. The computer will do all the rest and if it so happens that the computer selects a two-foot, transgender, female dwarf to play Superman, well tough cookies, as long as the quota rules are satisfied.
I'm stocking my video shelves with all the classic movies I can find before the Cancel Culture purges the past and shoves us into the bleak future of universal plastic art.
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Post by Vits on Sept 12, 2020 8:58:06 GMT
I'm not reading through this topic because I don't really care about it, but I'm not sure what's sadder, the brick headed Academy embarrassing themselves more or the fact that people seem to care enough about nonsense awards to even complain about this new decision. You don't really care about it yet you post a comment? You didn't read through the topic yet you know how people are reacting to this decision? Even something aa seemingly white-boys’ club as The Irishman would be fine thanks to Rodrigo Prieto. I'm not sure if the Hispanic requirements specify if it's about race or just nationality. As in, a huge percentage of Latinos are white (they descend from Europeans), and I'm pretty sure Rodrigo is too. Either way, I know that the editor and one of the producers of THE IRISHMAN were women.
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Post by sostie on Sept 12, 2020 12:26:40 GMT
Best Picture winners that don't meet the Oscar inclusion requirements: www.yahoo.com/news/25-modern-best-picture-oscar-155653281.htmlSpotlight Argo The King's Speech The Departed LOTR: Return of the King A Beautiful Mind American Beauty Shakespeare in Love Titanic Braveheart Schindler's List Rain Man Amadeus Chariots of Fire Kramer vs. Kramer Annie Hall The Godfather The Godfather: Part II Patton Oliver! A Man for All Seasons My Fair Lady Tom Jones The Apartment Ben-Hur Looks like they didn't read or understand the criteria at all
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 12, 2020 13:58:10 GMT
Best Picture winners that don't meet the Oscar inclusion requirements: www.yahoo.com/news/25-modern-best-picture-oscar-155653281.htmlSpotlight Argo The King's Speech The Departed LOTR: Return of the King A Beautiful Mind American Beauty Shakespeare in Love Titanic Braveheart Schindler's List Rain Man Amadeus Chariots of Fire Kramer vs. Kramer Annie Hall The Godfather The Godfather: Part II Patton Oliver! A Man for All Seasons My Fair Lady Tom Jones The Apartment Ben-Hur Looks like they didn't read or understand the criteria at all Precisely. It's basically being reported as, "movies won't be eligible unless they put BLACK people in the main role!!!!" |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 12, 2020 14:27:30 GMT
Apparently the most recent winner which would not have qualified is Braveheart, so I don’t think these new rules will have much of a tremor. Even something aa seemingly white-boys’ club as The Irishman would be fine thanks to Rodrigo Prieto. It has a female producer, plus an underrepresented person could be an exec at Netflix. Further underrepresented can include gay people and maybe Jewish. Every movie is going to qualify and this just presents a paper trail |
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Post by bd74 on Sept 12, 2020 18:44:24 GMT
I'm not reading through this topic because I don't really care about it, but I'm not sure what's sadder, the brick headed Academy embarrassing themselves more or the fact that people seem to care enough about nonsense awards to even complain about this new decision. Who exactly is the Academy trying to appease by doing this?? I'm a minority myself and I find this latest "dog and pony show" by the Academy to be completely preposterous. I for one don't give a fuck what color or what race the people involved in the creation of a movie are. If they all are white, then good for them. It makes zero difference to me. Just like it makes zero difference to me if all the nominees are white. If only certain other minorities out there could take it in stride like that, instead of assuming that they are owed something.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 12, 2020 23:17:03 GMT
Does anybody really think that Gays are underrepresented in the entertainment industry? Maybe, just maybe, in characters but certainly not in actors, and creators.
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Post by Vits on Sept 13, 2020 8:33:32 GMT
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Sept 13, 2020 14:54:14 GMT
I'm not reading through this topic because I don't really care about it, but I'm not sure what's sadder, the brick headed Academy embarrassing themselves more or the fact that people seem to care enough about nonsense awards to even complain about this new decision. Who exactly is the Academy trying to appease by doing this?? I'm a minority myself and I find this latest "dog and pony show" by the Academy to be completely preposterous. I for one don't give a fuck what color or what race the people involved in the creation of a movie are. If they all are white, then good for them. It makes zero difference to me. Just like it makes zero difference to me if all the nominees are white. If only certain other minorities out there could take it in stride like that, instead of assuming that they are owed something. Why are you responding to me? I have no dog in this fight, I could care less about the brick headed Academy. My main point is others should follow suit, pointless awards shows are pointless.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 13, 2020 15:18:28 GMT
Who exactly is the Academy trying to appease by doing this?? I'm a minority myself and I find this latest "dog and pony show" by the Academy to be completely preposterous. I for one don't give a fuck what color or what race the people involved in the creation of a movie are. If they all are white, then good for them. It makes zero difference to me. Just like it makes zero difference to me if all the nominees are white. If only certain other minorities out there could take it in stride like that, instead of assuming that they are owed something. Why are you responding to me? I have no dog in this fight, I could care less about the brick headed Academy. My main point is others should follow suit, pointless awards shows are pointless. By saying you could care less, it means you do care which is why you felt it important to post in something you say you don’t care anything about enough to care about getting other people to not care about it.
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