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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 5:29:44 GMT
But I thought gender was whatever someone wants it to be!
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 9, 2020 6:00:41 GMT
Gender is what wokies want you think it is. If they choose to change the narrative to suit their own agendas, they will have to deal with the consequence of backlash. The “majority” of people identify gender as male or female and that is biological construct not a deluded psychological construct.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 9, 2020 15:00:04 GMT
What, names like Jordan, Morgan, Ashley, Jamie, Madison . . . (you get the gist).
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Post by gameboy on Sept 9, 2020 15:22:21 GMT
It's funny there are plenty of girls named Morgan and Madison but there are no boys named Jennifer or Suzy. The unisex of names only works in one direction - females co-opt male names. Parents would never name their boy a traditional girl's name.
Why is that? It's just another indicator of what we all know is true, there are only two genders and they are fixed at birth and are different from each other.
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Post by truecristian on Sept 9, 2020 15:25:51 GMT
It's funny there are plenty of girls named Morgan and Madison but there are no boys named Jennifer or Suzy. The unisex of names only works in one direction - females co-opt male names. Parents would never name their boy a traditional girl's name.
Why is that? It's just another indicator of what we all know is true, there are only two genders and they are fixed at birth and are different from each other. Who cares
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 9, 2020 15:28:30 GMT
It's funny there are plenty of girls named Morgan and Madison but there are no boys named Jennifer or Suzy. The unisex of names only works in one direction - females co-opt male names. Parents would never name their boy a traditional girl's name.
Why is that? It's just another indicator of what we all know is true, there are only two genders and they are fixed at birth and are different from each other. Was watching a program on HGTV where one of the daughter's was named Bronte. I thought, "Is the other one Austin?"
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Post by gameboy on Sept 9, 2020 15:43:22 GMT
It's funny there are plenty of girls named Morgan and Madison but there are no boys named Jennifer or Suzy. The unisex of names only works in one direction - females co-opt male names. Parents would never name their boy a traditional girl's name.
Why is that? It's just another indicator of what we all know is true, there are only two genders and they are fixed at birth and are different from each other. Who cares Who cares? Every parent in the last century who have never named a boy "Suzy". In other words, everyone obviously cares.
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Sept 9, 2020 15:55:58 GMT
By hearing a name, one can deduce almost immediately if they are a boy or a girl. Yet - some names are androgynous (could be used for either a boy or girl).
A couple of really bizarre ones:
I was reading an article in a magazine, and it was written by someone with the name of Michael. There was a picture of the author of the article, and it was a gal! Who knew?
As well, when I started working for the division of work that I am now, I had a contact named Shirley at one of our accounts. Of course, I thought Shirley would be female. Well....
So, I had to put in the comments that the contact is a man named Shirley.
Finally, to touch on the OP's point:
The name 'Sawyer'. There was a character on one of the shows that I was watching. Sawyer is a boy.
I thought it's an androgynous name because my niece's name is Sawyer.
This goes back a few years ago to a family outing that we took.
There was a lady who was calling the name Sawyer. I thought....how do you know my niece's name?
Eventually, a boy came over to her. I imagine it was her grandson.
Meanwhile, my brother, in true 'my brother' fashion, said:
I told you Sawyer was a boy's name.

Joker's Wilde
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 9, 2020 15:59:39 GMT
I was reading an article in a magazine, and it was written by someone with the name of Michael. There was a picture of the author of the article, and it was a gal! Who knew?
Michael Learned  Mom, on THE WALTONS
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Post by Stammerhead on Sept 9, 2020 16:50:01 GMT
If you want there to be only two options then go for that. Problem solved!
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Sept 9, 2020 17:04:22 GMT
I was reading an article in a magazine, and it was written by someone with the name of Michael. There was a picture of the author of the article, and it was a gal! Who knew?
Michael Learned  Mom, on THE WALTONS
She as well. 
I didn't know she was on The Waltons. I mean, I may have know, but didn't think too much of it at the time.
I bought a Christmas compilation DVD that had 3 movies and about half a dozen cartoons. One of the movies was called A Christmas Without Snow, which starred Michael Learned.
I later donated it to charity because I picked a 4 DVD box set of Christmas themed shows. 3 of the discs were 4 movies on each disc, while the 4th was a compilation of cartoons.
A Christmas Without Snow was one of the movies on the DVD.
Joker's Wilde
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Post by enigma72 on Sept 9, 2020 17:09:10 GMT
But I thought gender was whatever someone wants it to be! Maybe that was the assignment? To say it is fluid!? Weird assignment. What kind of class?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 9, 2020 17:14:35 GMT
Jokers_WildeSort of funny Michael story .. local family has 6 kids ... all of them have the middle name "Michael" even the girl. No idea why ...never dared to ask them. Totally OT Trivia George Forman has several children named George or variations thereof Father with Adrienne of Michi Foreman. Father with Pamela Clay (not the actress) of George Foreman Jr.. Father with Charlotte Gross of Georgetta Foreman. Father with Andrea of Freeda Foreman and George Foreman III. Father with Mary of Natalie Foreman, Leola Foreman, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V and George Foreman VI.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 9, 2020 18:20:23 GMT
Leslie and Lee are also all purpose names
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Post by gameboy on Sept 9, 2020 18:25:09 GMT
By hearing a name, one can deduce almost immediately if they are a boy or a girl. Yet - some names are androgynous (could be used for either a boy or girl).
A couple of really bizarre ones:
I was reading an article in a magazine, and it was written by someone with the name of Michael. There was a picture of the author of the article, and it was a gal! Who knew?
As well, when I started working for the division of work that I am now, I had a contact named Shirley at one of our accounts. Of course, I thought Shirley would be female. Well....
So, I had to put in the comments that the contact is a man named Shirley.
Finally, to touch on the OP's point:
The name 'Sawyer'. There was a character on one of the shows that I was watching. Sawyer is a boy.
I thought it's an androgynous name because my niece's name is Sawyer.
This goes back a few years ago to a family outing that we took.
There was a lady who was calling the name Sawyer. I thought....how do you know my niece's name?
Eventually, a boy came over to her. I imagine it was her grandson.
Meanwhile, my brother, in true 'my brother' fashion, said:
I told you Sawyer was a boy's name.

Joker's Wilde
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Sept 9, 2020 18:44:01 GMT
Jokers_Wilde Sort of funny Michael story .. local family has 6 kids ... all of them have the middle name "Michael" even the girl. No idea why ...never dared to ask them. Totally OT Trivia George Forman has several children named George or variations thereof Father with Adrienne of Michi Foreman. Father with Pamela Clay (not the actress) of George Foreman Jr.. Father with Charlotte Gross of Georgetta Foreman. Father with Andrea of Freeda Foreman and George Foreman III. Father with Mary of Natalie Foreman, Leola Foreman, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V and George Foreman VI.
Girl who I went to school with in my 3rd year of university was named Gwen. She had 2 middle names starting with W and E, and a last name that starts with N
Gwen W--- E--- N---
She had a brother named Ian. Same concept. 
Wow! Christmas time must be a treat in the Foreman household.....
NO - GEORGE IV! THAT GIFT IS FOR GEORGE V! THAT'S NOT YOURS! GIVE THAT TO GEORGE VI, GEORGE III!

Joker's Wilde
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 9, 2020 18:58:14 GMT
I was in a Walmart or Target and over the PA a customer service person said like, “Will Amber please come to the service desk to meet your mother.” And I thought to myself, half the teen white girls in here will show up.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Sept 9, 2020 18:59:28 GMT
Leslie and Lee are also all purpose names Lesley and Leigh
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Post by gameboy on Sept 9, 2020 20:23:34 GMT
I was in a Walmart or Target and over the PA a customer service person said like, “Will Amber please come to the service desk to meet your mother.” And I thought to myself, half the teen white girls in here will show up. lol Too true. Breeders are so unimaginative.
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Post by gameboy on Sept 10, 2020 3:20:00 GMT
It's funny there are plenty of girls named Morgan and Madison but there are no boys named Jennifer or Suzy. The unisex of names only works in one direction - females co-opt male names. Parents would never name their boy a traditional girl's name.
Why is that? It's just another indicator of what we all know is true, there are only two genders and they are fixed at birth and are different from each other. Was watching a program on HGTV where one of the daughter's was named Bronte. I thought, "Is the other one Austin?" "Austen", Pinky. It took me a while to remember her. Of course I know Emily Bronte. I was required to read "Wuthering Heights" in my high school English class. But it is a great book. I loved it and the teacher, (her name was Mrs. Thompson), was heavy on the symbolism.
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