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Post by Popeye Doyle on Sept 10, 2020 1:46:22 GMT
I usually try to avoid such hyperbole but this is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. An incomprehensible, boring mess. Ugh, the constant inner monologues. Maybe it’s a good thing David Lynch turned down Return of the Jedi.
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Post by egon1982 on Sept 10, 2020 1:59:15 GMT
A poor adaptation of the novel! disliked it since i was 12 when i rented it and been a fan of the first 3 books since the previous year in 94 when i read them and been disappointed in this one.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2020 2:06:33 GMT
Yeah, it's bloody awful.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 10, 2020 4:17:34 GMT
It's the only Lynch film I haven't seen. The completionist in me kinda wants to get it out of the way, but the misery of these replies say I shouldn't.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 10, 2020 4:47:21 GMT
It is a bad movie, but I love the art direction, atmosphere and strangeness of the movie.
I have never read the novel, but the movie is an interesting failure.
It is nowhere near one of the worst movies I have seen.
5/10
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 10, 2020 4:51:09 GMT
It's the only Lynch film I haven't seen. The completionist in me kinda wants to get it out of the way, but the misery of these replies say I shouldn't. I like Dune more than Inland Empire.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 10, 2020 4:54:58 GMT
Stink, stank, stunk
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 10, 2020 5:06:42 GMT
It's the only Lynch film I haven't seen. The completionist in me kinda wants to get it out of the way, but the misery of these replies say I shouldn't. I like Dune more than Inland Empire. Empire is certainly the weakest of his films I've seen so far.
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Post by wmcclain on Sept 10, 2020 11:11:47 GMT
Dune (1984), directed by David Lynch. I saw this a few times in the theater when it was new but not in the decades since. I tried to watch it with fresh eyes this time, forgetting the book and my previous viewings. There are intimations of a good story here: Paul's premonitions that he will be inserted into an epic adventure and become a messiah (or perhaps, "Messenger"). And the sandworms are monstrously elegant. Otherwise it's still ridiculous after all these years, awkwardly stiff and uncinematic throughout. The leads are particularly bland (although Kenneth McMillan is having a good time as the Baron) and tend to be overpowered by the secondary characters who just drop in for their episodic bits. All the characters speak in platitudes; even their thought-voice-overs are dull. The Harkonnen villains are ludicrous. It has the double flaw of trying to stuff in too many details from the book, but still not presenting the story very well. In the theater, management handed out a printed glossary to try to help the audience keep up. As a filmmaker you really need to think about what you are trying to do here. Beyond that, Lynch introduces elements which must be important to him but which make no sense and add nothing to the story. The Baron as a pustule-covered flying vampire? Heart plugs? Weirding modules? What's that all about? The Fremen are the easiest to represent: we think of desert Arabs. The Atreides are properly shown as European nobility, although the court and retro-uniforms are more formal than I imagine, and they live in a museum. The Harkonnens on the other hand: good grief. I imagine the Baron as a sybaritic Roman senator. Here he lives in an industrial hallway and makes bloody shambles of minions with bad haircuts. I don't know why Lynch was offered this, or why he accepted and stuck with it. I know he and most others regret it. The wikipedia article has a summary of the background. Filmed in Mexico. Available on Blu-ray.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Sept 10, 2020 11:18:04 GMT
Was surprised to see Toto provided the music. It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you There's nothing that a hundred fremen or more could ever do I bless the rains down in Arrakis
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 10, 2020 12:07:26 GMT
Hated the book. The movie was kitschy and so awful it was funny. Weird casting choices, but since it was a total mess, it didn't really matter.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 10, 2020 12:39:06 GMT
This thread reminded me of this clip from Jodorowsky's Dune:
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Post by angel on Sept 10, 2020 14:11:57 GMT
This thread reminded me of this clip from Jodorowsky's Dune: Lynch's Dune was a mess, he admitted as much himself, but it was unmistakably a Lynchian film, meaning in was at times visually arresting and philosophically intriguing and for large parts I actually quite enjoyed it mainly because I sensed there was a good film in there trying to get out. (And one has to wonder but for the studio intervention and with him having final cut, what Lynch's true vision for the film could have been). It did at least compel me to seek out the book which I enjoyed, but immediately saw Lynch's problem with the book being both long and dense and therefore very difficult to adapt; a reason why I'm not actually holding out too much hope for Villeneuve's version - (but maybe he'll surprise me). But trust me, Jodorowsky's version would have been an even bigger mess and would almost certainly not have resembled anything Herbert wrote, but for those who know and admire Jodorowsky's work, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
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Post by wmcclain on Sept 10, 2020 14:26:21 GMT
But trust me, Jodorowsky's version would have been an even bigger mess and would almost certainly not have resembled anything Herbert wrote That's certainly true. From what I remember of that documentary he had no idea what Dune was when he decided to make it, just that it was a famous book. People can take surrealism for about 10 minutes and then hit the exit.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 10, 2020 15:26:34 GMT
This thread reminded me of this clip from Jodorowsky's Dune: Yeah, Orson Welles as Vladimir Harkonnen seemed like a disaster cast decision. BVH was a disgusting monster, no redeeming qualities. You want Welles playing him?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Sept 10, 2020 18:18:52 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 10, 2020 18:40:02 GMT
Fun fact: George Lucas wanted David Lynch to direct Return of the Jedi, which itself kind of rips off Dune in some ways.
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Post by kolchak92 on Sept 10, 2020 20:01:14 GMT
It's a tricky one for me because there are some aspects of it I really like (the cast, the sets etc.), but it really just isn't a good movie at all, which is a shame. I do respect David Lynch though for at least being honest about the fact that the film doesn't work.
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Post by kolchak92 on Sept 10, 2020 20:02:46 GMT
Fun fact: George Lucas wanted David Lynch to direct Return of the Jedi, which itself kind of rips off Dune in some ways. Just the idea that Lynch nearly directed a Star Wars film is so mind-bogglingly bizarre to me.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Sept 10, 2020 20:09:45 GMT
Sure the film is a mess, but to be honest I really didn't have any trouble following it and had a fairly good sense of what was going on. Maybe because I never read the book, but I enjoyed it and it's a guilty pleasure movie for me.
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