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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 15:38:03 GMT
Are there any films out there that are “overly bloated” or “poorly edited” or even just really bad pacing? ...whatever the case may be, and you think a good re-edit or re-cut would make it better? Like maybe the acting was actually good, but the way it was cut made the film clunky or poorly paced? Could be a 2.5 hour film would have been an excellent 90 minute film?
- Sly Stallone is currently working on a “Rocky IV” re-cut, he claims its more in line with “his” vision of the film. More grounded and even toned.
- Zack Snyder is recutting “Justice League” (for obvious reasons).
Thoughts?
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Post by politicidal on Sept 12, 2020 15:44:59 GMT
Luckily the original was on last night so it's fresh in my head, but the 2010 Clash of the Titans remake for starters. Apparently in the original cut, Zeus was pretty much the villain; the gods all had substantial roles; Perseus' motivation was considerably more noble and humanistic; and the human characters had more depth.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 12, 2020 15:50:07 GMT
Luckily the original was on last night so it's fresh in my head, but the 2010 Clash of the Titans remake for starters. Apparently in the original cut, Zeus was pretty much the villain; the gods all had substantial roles; Perseus' motivation was considerably more noble and humanistic; and the human characters had more depth. I do remember hearing how that movie was supposed to be more faithful to Greek mythology. That would’ve been much more interesting than the generic action movie we got.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 15:56:17 GMT
Luckily the original was on last night so it's fresh in my head, but the 2010 Clash of the Titans remake for starters. Apparently in the original cut, Zeus was pretty much the villain; the gods all had substantial roles; Perseus' motivation was considerably more noble and humanistic; and the human characters had more depth. Damn, I’d love to see that. |
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 12, 2020 16:57:57 GMT
Are there any films out there that are “overly bloated” or “poorly edited” or even just really bad pacing? ...whatever the case may be, and you think a good re-edit or re-cut would make it better? Like maybe the acting was actually good, but the way it was cut made the film clunky or poorly paced? Could be a 2.5 hour film would have been an excellent 90 minute film? Thoughts? The first thing that came to mind was Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy. It was originally intended as two films, but we ended up with three. Also as Jan El Señor pointed out here, the three films suffered from a lack of preparation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 17:01:33 GMT
Are there any films out there that are “overly bloated” or “poorly edited” or even just really bad pacing? ...whatever the case may be, and you think a good re-edit or re-cut would make it better? Like maybe the acting was actually good, but the way it was cut made the film clunky or poorly paced? Could be a 2.5 hour film would have been an excellent 90 minute film? Thoughts? The first thing that came to mind was Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy. It was originally intended as two films, but we ended up with three. Also as Jan El Señor pointed out here, the three films suffered from a lack of preparation. So cut out the fatty extra, and make it a 2 part film, or maybe even a 4 hour epic. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 17:05:25 GMT
I always thought “Superman Returns” is probably an excellent 90 minute film or maybe even 100 minutes. Somewhere in there.
Also, the Hunger Games: “The Mockingjay” should be cut into one trimmer film. A clean trilogy. Instead of that thing where all the studios were double dipping by making a “part 1” and “part 2” to their finale.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 12, 2020 17:20:17 GMT
The first thing that came to mind was Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy. It was originally intended as two films, but we ended up with three. Also as Jan El Señor pointed out here, the three films suffered from a lack of preparation. So cut out the fatty extra, and make it a 2 part film, or maybe even a 4 hour epic. I believe it was originally intended as two, two-hour films, so that's what I would like to see.
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Post by ck100 on Sept 12, 2020 17:50:28 GMT
I like King Kong (2005), but it would work so much better as a 2-2.5 hour film with some good editing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 17:51:08 GMT
I like King Kong (2005), but it would work so much better as a 2-2.5 hour film with some good editing. I’ve often thought about that too. |
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Post by Jan El Señor on Sept 12, 2020 19:08:23 GMT
The first thing that came to mind was Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy. It was originally intended as two films, but we ended up with three. Also as Jan El Señor pointed out here, the three films suffered from a lack of preparation. So cut out the fatty extra, and make it a 2 part film, or maybe even a 4 hour epic. This has already been done by fans. This is the only way I watch The Hobbit nowadays....
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 12, 2020 22:26:22 GMT
The Dark Knight Rises comes to mind. If you fixed the sound mixing with Bane, you'd already be off to a good start.
Adjust the lighting in the exterior Wall Steeet heist scenes so it's not suddenly nighttime in 3 minutes.
Cut the shot of Bruce and Selina at the Italian place so the ending has that ambiguous quality defenders like to say it has but doesn't.
Use an alternate take of Talia's death or trim it.
Cut some things that needlessly muddle the plot like the inane backstory of Talia and Bane being rejected by Ra's but deciding to devote their life to his cause, + have filthy Notebook sex with his murderer.
Cut generally stupid things like Batman spending 17 hours to draw a bat signal on a bridge in gasoline, and the eye-rolling Robin bit.
Just spitballing. There's a good movie in there somewhere.
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Post by Prime etc. on Sept 12, 2020 22:52:47 GMT
I get the feeling Stallone's recut of Rocky IV will focus on how the ghost of Apollo Creed brought him to victory.
Clash of the Titans 2010 was one of the worst remakes ever.
Turning Zeus into a bad guy wouldn't have helped the film (and really would make no sense since the Olympians were not "bad guys" especially Zeus. Ares and Hera seem to have the most negative personalities). Zeus is kind of jerk at times but can also be compassionate.
It did seem like they must have more stuff planned for them since the actors playing them were better known, yet they were mostly shown just standing around that world map.
The opening for that film is so moronic. The eagle flying up the tower with the statues in it. Made zero sense. Zeus had those little figures representing his favorite mortals like a little hobby room, but having him in eagle form flying around the statues --it's pointless.
Worthington is really bland compared to Hamlin too.
The glowing eyed guy with the head scarf belonged in a different movie (though I liked when Medusa tries to turn him to stone and it didn't work).
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Post by Archelaus on Sept 13, 2020 0:45:03 GMT
Most definitely The Hobbit trilogy.
The Lone Ranger
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
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Post by ck100 on Sept 13, 2020 12:53:15 GMT
I like True Lies, but the middle section of the movie runs too long. Cutting that down would make the movie better.
Tarantino's last three movies also suffer from overlength and would be better with some good editing.
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