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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 15, 2020 23:23:27 GMT
Frankly, I feel that with the way Spider-Man has been portrayed in the MCU, Kamala Khan will seem kind of redundant. Her whole thing is that she’s a teen fangirl of the Avengers who gets to become a superhero, but they’ve already done that with Tom Holland’s Peter Parker.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 16, 2020 14:46:43 GMT
That's the rumor. The one actress that's supposedly the frontrunner kind of shot down those suggestions though.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 16, 2020 16:22:31 GMT
After this trilogy with Spider-Man ends, Disney may not have access to the character - so - redundancy solved.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 18, 2020 23:59:45 GMT
After this trilogy with Spider-Man ends, Disney may not have access to the character - so - redundancy solved. Also, he's a fan of Stark. She's a fan of Captain Marvel.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2020 1:51:45 GMT
After this trilogy with Spider-Man ends, Disney may not have access to the character - so - redundancy solved. Also, he's a fan of Stark. She's a fan of Captain Marvel. Is that supposed to make a difference?
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2020 8:50:14 GMT
Also, he's a fan of Stark. She's a fan of Captain Marvel. Is that supposed to make a difference? There's no more Tony. So him being a "fanboy" is not a thing anymore.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2020 14:18:37 GMT
Is that supposed to make a difference? There's no more Tony. So him being a "fanboy" is not a thing anymore. I don’t see why that matters. It was a thing at the beginning, so that would just make Kamala Khan seem redundant.
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Post by dazz on Sept 19, 2020 14:43:06 GMT
There's no more Tony. So him being a "fanboy" is not a thing anymore. I don’t see why that matters. It was a thing at the beginning, so that would just make Kamala Khan seem redundant. In that case 99% of the major superheroes are redundant because how many share almost identical catalyst to being heroes or share identical personality traits? Being a fanboy and fangirl respectively doesn't alter their value in the movie long term, look at Stark and Strange giants in their field with huge ego's and arsehole personalities, tragedy befalls them and they must struggle to repair the damage caused to them, both turn good but serve very different functions in the team up movies and will likely end up playing vastly different roles in the overall MCU by the time Strange leaves the franchise like Stark has. Like Peter was approached by Tony and became an even bigger fanboy, trying to bother and impress Tony, Kamala could approach Carol and be taken under her wing as her actual sidekick or protégé, with Carol directly or indirectly taking a more active role in Kamala's development as a hero. Also doesn't the she's redundant argument also apply to every additional variation of the same characters, like isn't EVERY animated and live action version of Spidey then a redundant regurgitation of the character? What makes characters the same doesn't invalidate them, it's what makes them different that validates their existence, and Kamala is a very different character to Peter that they could explore easily.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2020 14:45:26 GMT
I don’t see why that matters. It was a thing at the beginning, so that would just make Kamala Khan seem redundant. In that case 99% of the major superheroes are redundant because how many share almost identical catalyst to being heroes or share identical personality traits? Being a fanboy and fangirl respectively doesn't alter their value in the movie long term, look at Stark and Strange giants in their field with huge ego's and arsehole personalities, tragedy befalls them and they must struggle to repair the damage caused to them, both turn good but serve very different functions in the team up movies and will likely end up playing vastly different roles in the overall MCU by the time Strange leaves the franchise like Stark has. Like Peter was approached by Tony and became an even bigger fanboy, trying to bother and impress Tony, Kamala could approach Carol and be taken under her wing as her actual sidekick or protégé, with Carol directly or indirectly taking a more active role in Kamala's development as a hero. Also doesn't the she's redundant argument also apply to every additional variation of the same characters, like isn't EVERY animated and live action version of Spidey then a redundant regurgitation of the character? What makes characters the same doesn't invalidate them, it's what makes them different that validates their existence, and Kamala is a very different character to Peter that they could explore easily. Iron Man took a pretty active role in Spider-Man’s development in the MCU.
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Post by dazz on Sept 19, 2020 15:14:53 GMT
In that case 99% of the major superheroes are redundant because how many share almost identical catalyst to being heroes or share identical personality traits? Being a fanboy and fangirl respectively doesn't alter their value in the movie long term, look at Stark and Strange giants in their field with huge ego's and arsehole personalities, tragedy befalls them and they must struggle to repair the damage caused to them, both turn good but serve very different functions in the team up movies and will likely end up playing vastly different roles in the overall MCU by the time Strange leaves the franchise like Stark has. Like Peter was approached by Tony and became an even bigger fanboy, trying to bother and impress Tony, Kamala could approach Carol and be taken under her wing as her actual sidekick or protégé, with Carol directly or indirectly taking a more active role in Kamala's development as a hero. Also doesn't the she's redundant argument also apply to every additional variation of the same characters, like isn't EVERY animated and live action version of Spidey then a redundant regurgitation of the character? What makes characters the same doesn't invalidate them, it's what makes them different that validates their existence, and Kamala is a very different character to Peter that they could explore easily. Iron Man took a pretty active role in Spider-Man’s development in the MCU. Not really, he had a couple of major moments but Spidey was mostly going on his own initiative, Kamala could actually be trained by Carol and given lessons or missions from her, either in person or via a proxy, even Happy who was Tony's proxy to Peter was mostly hands off, telling Peter to just cool his jets and stuff, not sending Peter special missions of training exercises.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2020 15:19:52 GMT
Iron Man took a pretty active role in Spider-Man’s development in the MCU. Not really, he had a couple of major moments but Spidey was mostly going on his own initiative, Kamala could actually be trained by Carol and given lessons or missions from her, either in person or via a proxy, even Happy who was Tony's proxy to Peter was mostly hands off, telling Peter to just cool his jets and stuff, not sending Peter special missions of training exercises. Tony Stark is the one who gives Spider-Man his suits and a major part of Peter’s character in CW and HC is him trying to make Tony proud. Tony Stark is basically his Uncle Ben in the MCU.
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Post by dazz on Sept 19, 2020 16:18:24 GMT
Not really, he had a couple of major moments but Spidey was mostly going on his own initiative, Kamala could actually be trained by Carol and given lessons or missions from her, either in person or via a proxy, even Happy who was Tony's proxy to Peter was mostly hands off, telling Peter to just cool his jets and stuff, not sending Peter special missions of training exercises. Tony Stark is the one who gives Spider-Man his suits and a major part of Peter’s character in CW and HC is him trying to make Tony proud. Tony Stark is basically his Uncle Ben in the MCU. Actually it's more like he's trying to impress him, for a reason, he wants to be an Avenger so he thinks impressing Tony will get him there, in FFH he's trying to make Tony proud, because in FFH he's trying to live up to Tony, keep his legacy going in a way, he doesn't want to let Tony down, for no other reason than how he feels about Tony and what Tony did for him and everyone else, in HC he's trying to get something out of Tony, recognition and status, you know you can impress someone for going against their wishes, not so easy to make them proud by ignoring them, though in HC he does do both, by impressing Tony he makes Tony proud of him also. Kamala could try doing both but for different reason, so Carol doesn't regret making Kamala her protégé as well as upholding the values the "Marvel" name represents, as such unlike Spidey who doesn't need to worry about tainting Tony's legacy as much considering he is Spider Man not Iron Boy, Miss Marvel would have that hanging over her, her actions could reflect on Carol. Like I said differences is what matters not the similarities, because most superheroes have similar backstory elements anyway so why the fuck is this an issue here but not there?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 19, 2020 17:14:32 GMT
Tony Stark is the one who gives Spider-Man his suits and a major part of Peter’s character in CW and HC is him trying to make Tony proud. Tony Stark is basically his Uncle Ben in the MCU. Actually it's more like he's trying to impress him, for a reason, he wants to be an Avenger so he thinks impressing Tony will get him there, in FFH he's trying to make Tony proud, because in FFH he's trying to live up to Tony, keep his legacy going in a way, he doesn't want to let Tony down, for no other reason than how he feels about Tony and what Tony did for him and everyone else, in HC he's trying to get something out of Tony, recognition and status, you know you can impress someone for going against their wishes, not so easy to make them proud by ignoring them, though in HC he does do both, by impressing Tony he makes Tony proud of him also. Kamala could try doing both but for different reason, so Carol doesn't regret making Kamala her protégé as well as upholding the values the "Marvel" name represents, as such unlike Spidey who doesn't need to worry about tainting Tony's legacy as much considering he is Spider Man not Iron Boy, Miss Marvel would have that hanging over her, her actions could reflect on Carol. Like I said differences is what matters not the similarities, because most superheroes have similar backstory elements anyway so why the fuck is this an issue here but not there? In the case of Kamala Khan, her being a big superhero fan is supposed to be what makes her unique.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 20, 2020 2:22:59 GMT
Actually it's more like he's trying to impress him, for a reason, he wants to be an Avenger so he thinks impressing Tony will get him there, in FFH he's trying to make Tony proud, because in FFH he's trying to live up to Tony, keep his legacy going in a way, he doesn't want to let Tony down, for no other reason than how he feels about Tony and what Tony did for him and everyone else, in HC he's trying to get something out of Tony, recognition and status, you know you can impress someone for going against their wishes, not so easy to make them proud by ignoring them, though in HC he does do both, by impressing Tony he makes Tony proud of him also. Kamala could try doing both but for different reason, so Carol doesn't regret making Kamala her protégé as well as upholding the values the "Marvel" name represents, as such unlike Spidey who doesn't need to worry about tainting Tony's legacy as much considering he is Spider Man not Iron Boy, Miss Marvel would have that hanging over her, her actions could reflect on Carol. Like I said differences is what matters not the similarities, because most superheroes have similar backstory elements anyway so why the fuck is this an issue here but not there? In the case of Kamala Khan, her being a big superhero fan is supposed to be what makes her unique. That's a bit disingenuous. Whether you think the character can carve out her own niche in the MCU or not, it's more than clear what makes her unique. Ms. Marvel is a Muslim girl that was created specifically to cater to female readers. And, the bottom line is that she won't overlap with Peter if Sony and Disney can't work out a post trilogy deal. In that case, this is a non-issue.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 20, 2020 12:04:35 GMT
Not is it still happening but recently it just got 4 directors.
Now we just need a official casting of Kamala.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 27, 2022 0:57:08 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Feb 7, 2022 1:03:38 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Feb 23, 2022 16:54:07 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Mar 10, 2022 14:58:12 GMT
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