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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 20, 2020 23:49:22 GMT
Buses where I live require card payments. So cashless public transport. Which can be a pain when the damn thing doesn't work!
Cash still used though. There's one at a Texaco that actually throws up a notice when withdrawing, stating the notes have been handled and stocked with adherence to virus checks.
Have you seen any card readers where you simply hold the card in front of it rather than running it through a slot?
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Post by Catman on Sept 21, 2020 0:02:05 GMT
Catman saves 3 cents per gallon when paying in cash for gasoline.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2020 0:09:44 GMT
Catman saves 3 cents per gallon when paying in cash for gasoline. It adds up.
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Post by Catman on Sept 21, 2020 0:12:21 GMT
Catman saves 3 cents per gallon when paying in cash for gasoline. It adds up. A few times Catman has managed to get gasoline for almost free thanks to the handy gas card from the local grocery. For some reason, they still want that nine tenths of a cent per gallon even if the card has more than enough to cover the whole price.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2020 0:22:58 GMT
It adds up. A few times Catman has managed to get gasoline for almost free thanks to the handy gas card from the local grocery. For some reason, they still want that nine tenths of a cent per gallon even if the card has more than enough to cover the whole price. Who knows? Maybe the nine tenths of a cent is so they can educate people about the perils of global warming.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 21, 2020 2:34:53 GMT
Are you particular whether "cash" is paper or metal? That was a really big deal at one time. No, not at all. At least paper and metal are tangible. I ordinarily have some cash "spirited away" and actually used it to buy ice during a power outage once. It isn't much though. Apparently lots of people do the same thing. It can be difficult to find any ice during a power outage.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2020 2:40:22 GMT
No, not at all. At least paper and metal are tangible. I ordinarily have some cash "spirited away" and actually used it to buy ice during a power outage once. It isn't much though. Apparently lots of people do the same thing. It can be difficult to find any ice during a power outage. If cash is eliminated you won't even be able to do that again.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 21, 2020 2:45:00 GMT
I ordinarily have some cash "spirited away" and actually used it to buy ice during a power outage once. It isn't much though. Apparently lots of people do the same thing. It can be difficult to find any ice during a power outage. If cash is eliminated you won't even be able to do that again. You might be surprised how readily people offer me charity. I know I am surprised.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2020 3:02:40 GMT
If cash is eliminated you won't even be able to do that again. You might be surprised how readily people offer me charity. I know I am surprised. Do you see a completely cashless society as something you might possibly have to deal with in your lifetime?
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 21, 2020 3:11:49 GMT
You might be surprised how readily people offer me charity. I know I am surprised. Do you see a completely cashless society as something you might possibly have to deal with in your lifetime? It was in a book I read by Arthur C. Clarke (or some other scifi writer) that some people's purpose seems to be just moving things from one ledger to another. The medium for keeping records is the least of the trouble though. Most workers are not disturbed by what medium is used for records, rather by how much the record shows they earned. If one medium fails I'm sure people will defer to another.
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Post by progressiveelement on Sept 21, 2020 14:04:45 GMT
Buses where I live require card payments. So cashless public transport. Which can be a pain when the damn thing doesn't work!
Cash still used though. There's one at a Texaco that actually throws up a notice when withdrawing, stating the notes have been handled and stocked with adherence to virus checks.
Have you seen any card readers where you simply hold the card in front of it rather than running it through a slot? Almost every shop here. A few places will still only accept cash. The local Chinese takeaway place won't take card payments. There's a kebab joint in a nearby town that will only accept card payments on-line, not via face-to-face customer service, and you have the option to order home delivery, and hand over the cash. Most have the contactless payment thing where you just hold the card to it. Only occasionally using the slot.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2020 14:40:59 GMT
Have you seen any card readers where you simply hold the card in front of it rather than running it through a slot? Almost every shop here. A few places will still only accept cash. The local Chinese takeaway place won't take card payments. There's a kebab joint in a nearby town that will only accept card payments on-line, not via face-to-face customer service, and you have the option to order home delivery, and hand over the cash. Most have the contactless payment thing where you just hold the card to it. Only occasionally using the slot.
If I'm not mistaken that kind will work with the hand implant too, and as the years go by more people are going to get them. It seems to be more prevalent in Europe right now than in the States. I've heard we have them here but haven't seen any yet.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2020 13:39:00 GMT
Why does being a cashless society mean being godless? Please define what godless is so I can understand. You go figure it out.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 21:51:37 GMT
What is the essential difference, between a chip in a piece of plastic like we have now and a chip implanted in your hand, ( like we have for tracking domestic animals)? Admittedly, for people of your limited knowledge and stupidity it seem as though one invades your fleshly person ( and can be just as easily removed or cancelled as easily removed as the one in plastic) and besides fear mongering and going it is in my hand....... I actually don't see the difference hence we don't need a chip in our body...
chips and forced vaccinations are the product of conspiracy theory bullshit!
You DO know that plenty pf people have chips under the skin for the more convenient dosing of hormones and medications in their bodies already, right?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 26, 2020 22:05:20 GMT
What is the essential difference, between a chip in a piece of plastic like we have now and a chip implanted in your hand, ( like we have for tracking domestic animals)? Admittedly, for people of your limited knowledge and stupidity it seem as though one invades your fleshly person ( and can be just as easily removed or cancelled as easily removed as the one in plastic) and besides fear mongering and going it is in my hand....... I actually don't see the difference hence we don't need a chip in our body...
chips and forced vaccinations are the product of conspiracy theory bullshit!
You DO know that plenty pf people have chips under the skin for the more convenient dosing of hormones and medications in their bodies already, right?Yes, I knew that.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Sept 26, 2020 22:33:49 GMT
Being cashless during a natural disaster is going to kill people... Well, I am not sure how checks would work these days, since so many places don't want to take those as a form of payment, due to frequent check fraud... But... Actually - at the risk of being slightly pedantic - I work in financial services and the reason they don't want to take cheques is partly because they're slow but mainly because they're much more expensive to deal with compared to pretty much any other form of payment. Banks dislike dealing with them so they generally charge businesses for processing them - especially if there are large quantities of them. But on the wider point - we are moving to a cashless society because that generally what people want. The only groups resisting are: - The old: Not used to the new technology/don't like the change - The really poorly educated: Same reasons as the old - Criminals: Don't like the fact that all their transactions can be tracked - People with such poor credit they struggle to get a bank account And it's the last group that is the real issue. There is a surprisingly large number of people that are (what's known as) "unbanked" and aren't able to open a bank account. Making it very difficult for them to get paid - let alone pay for things.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 22:42:36 GMT
What is the essential difference, between a chip in a piece of plastic like we have now and a chip implanted in your hand, ( like we have for tracking domestic animals)? Admittedly, for people of your limited knowledge and stupidity it seem as though one invades your fleshly person ( and can be just as easily removed or cancelled as easily removed as the one in plastic) and besides fear mongering and going it is in my hand....... I actually don't see the difference hence we don't need a chip in our body...
chips and forced vaccinations are the product of conspiracy theory bullshit!
You DO know that plenty pf people have chips under the skin for the more convenient dosing of hormones and medications in their bodies already, right?Yes, I knew that. Well then, perhaps you could answer my question. What would be the difference between a micro chip in a plastic card and one under the skin, and why have the other when you can have the former and it is more convenient?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 26, 2020 22:50:12 GMT
Well then, perhaps you could answer my question. What would be the difference between a micro chip in a plastic card and one under the skin, and why have the other when you can have the former and it is more convenient? It's too invasive for me and other people. I'm not against people having a microchip under the skin if they want it, but it shouldn't be mandatory. BTW, those medical implants you mentioned don't stop people from buying or selling. You need a completely cashless society for that.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 22:56:37 GMT
Well then, perhaps you could answer my question. What would be the difference between a micro chip in a plastic card and one under the skin, and why have the other when you can have the former and it is more convenient? It's too invasive for me and other people. I'm not against people having a microchip under the skin if they want it, but it shouldn't be mandatory.BTW, those medical implants you mentioned don't stop people from buying or selling. You need a completely cashless society for that. LOL If you can't get rid of America's guns and you can't get people to wear masks. what chance do you think 'they' would have with mandatory micro chips?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 26, 2020 23:00:21 GMT
It's too invasive for me and other people. I'm not against people having a microchip under the skin if they want it, but it shouldn't be mandatory.BTW, those medical implants you mentioned don't stop people from buying or selling. You need a completely cashless society for that. LOL If you can't get rid of America's guns and you can't get people to wear masks. what chance do you think 'they' would have with mandatory micro chips? Because starvation is a powerful motivator. Assuming mandatory implants with a cashless society, people's ability to transact business would be sharply curtailed unless they submitted to the implant. Next question.
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