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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 22, 2020 20:50:21 GMT
Supergirl is ending after season 6. Melissa Benoist posted it on Instagram!
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 23, 2020 7:57:51 GMT
Its probably not long until both The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are also cancelled.
That is my guess, i could be wrong but i think both this show will be gone within 1-3 years.
I am fine with season 6 being the last season of Supergirl.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Sept 24, 2020 1:35:45 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised, but I have mixed feelings about it. I never felt like the show found a solid footing, but at the same time, I really like Melissa Benoist and would kind of like to see her continue the role, even if I only ever seem to bitch about the show.
But like I said, it's not the least bit surprising. I think so many of the Arrowverse shows that came back last year, did at least in part because Arrow was ending and it was sort of like they wanted it to go out surrounded by it's "children"; and they obviously wanted to make a big deal out of Crisis. But now that's over and I honestly don't know what the general reception of Crisis was. It seems like a lifetime ago.
Since this year has gone on for like, five years now, I can't remember if the renewals for a lot of these shows happened before or after quarantine and productions shut down, but if it was after, I'm sure some of the decision to renew fell to wanting to give closure to the production after things got cut short.
I'm probably more surprised Legends wasn't axed first, but it is kind of the network's bitch, right? Like the CW can cut its budget, give it only a partial season order, move it all over the schedule; and they're just happy to be part of the team. Meanwhile, Supergirl's sitting over there like chumps with their so-called "creative integrity" (relatively speaking).
And then there's The Flash, which going into season 7, it's anyone's guess. Last I heard, it was still one of the CW's best performers, but at this point everyone's contracts must be up for renewal, especially Grant's; so it's going to become a year by year thing, assuming the network's willing. My guess is, if the ratings hold, the CW will want to keep The Flash around at least another year, especially after cancelling Supergirl after this year. But if Superman and Lois finds its footing, and depending on how the retooled Batwoman goes, The Flash beyond season 8 could be up for grabs. If Superman is strong, but Batwoman flounders, or vice versa, they may double down on The Flash as sort of the new anchor for the franchise now that Arrow's out of the picture.
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Post by DarkManX on Sept 24, 2020 5:50:12 GMT
Season 1 was alright, but season 2 was terrible and I stopped watching after that. The show was worse than Legends of Tomorrow with its agenda pushing. I did like Melissa Benoist as Supergirl though.
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Post by dazz on Sept 25, 2020 6:36:04 GMT
Not surprised tbh, Supergirl maybe one of CW's top ratings earners stateside but it's also by accounts not one of their bigger international products, Arrow, Flash, Supernatural and Legends are all more popular internationally from what I hear, most likely due to Supergirl often having less evergreen or universally appealing storylines, being much more focused on stories Americans relate to in big ways at the time.
Also not surprising they are going to be ok with ending the show right now all thats happening, Mellissa is having a baby and will miss filming the first few weeks or months this season, similar to S4, and then she's going to be a new mother, doubt she want's to spend so much time away from the chavy once it's arrived, plus she still I heard has broadway interest, new mother, lead of a 22 episode a year show and broadway? something would have to give, plus her contract is likely up at this point, and with it not being the same hit globally as it is domestically, and with a new Superman show on the air I can see why CW would be ok letting Supergirl go off earlier than some.
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Post by dazz on Sept 25, 2020 6:49:56 GMT
Its probably not long until both The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are also cancelled. That is my guess, i could be wrong but i think both this show will be gone within 1-3 years. I am fine with season 6 being the last season of Supergirl. I don't think it's been cancelled as much as it's simply ending, cancelled means ending before it's time, ending is going out of their own accord, which this sounds like which is the same as Arrow last season. I also doubt it, so long as these shows continue to bolster the CW's network averages they wont be dropping them anytime soon, plus as WB is part owners and any superhero show boosts their DC IP's they are going to likely be pushing to at worst just replace those shows with new ones. Also CW makes way too much off of their DC line up, they bring in over $1b in revenue for the network a year and each show at most probably cost them under $75m to produce a 20 episode series, so it's doubtful they are going to kill that cash cow anytime soon especally not as they just introduce their own Superman and probably have aspirations of Batwoman going on a 7 year run at minimum.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Sept 25, 2020 23:29:24 GMT
I don't think it's been cancelled as much as it's simply ending, cancelled means ending before it's time, ending is going out of their own accord, which this sounds like which is the same as Arrow last season. I also doubt it, so long as these shows continue to bolster the CW's network averages they wont be dropping them anytime soon, plus as WB is part owners and any superhero show boosts their DC IP's they are going to likely be pushing to at worst just replace those shows with new ones. Also CW makes way too much off of their DC line up, they bring in over $1b in revenue for the network a year and each show at most probably cost them under $75m to produce a 20 episode series, so it's doubtful they are going to kill that cash cow anytime soon especally not as they just introduce their own Superman and probably have aspirations of Batwoman going on a 7 year run at minimum. I don't know. There's kind of a fine line between a show being "cancelled" and reaching it's natural conclusion. I'm not sure the fact that they have foreknowledge of the ending and can plan for it to give the show a proper resolution necessarily qualifies it for the latter. Compare this to Arrow - that's ostensibly an instance where the people who were at the heart of the decision making within the show, as opposed to the network, that they were going to end with season 8. I imagine there was probably some variation of a conversation between the network, the producers and particularly Stephen Amell, where Stephen's contract was up, the network said, "we'd like to continue the show" and Stephen says he feels ready to be done with the show. The conversation(s) might have occurred in either season 6 or season 7, but ultimately they reached the compromise to do a limited run season 8, for sole purpose of being a final season. In contrast, did Melissa Benoist ask to leave the show, or is this the network saying they weren't renewing the show? Because it's the former, then I agree, it's the production choosing to bow out on their terms; whereas if it's the latter, then it's arguably a cancellation, just with advanced notice that allows the show to plan accordingly. And I don't know which is the case here. Oddly enough, trying to look up if there are any reports that it was Melissa's decision to leave that's prompting the show's end, produced an April fools to that effect from earlier this year, but that's it. Looking at her Instagram post, which announced this, she doesn't appear to get into more specifics than saying she's grateful they'll get to plan the conclusion, but to me that sounds more like someone looking on the upside to a decision that they had no say in; that at least they get to say goodbye. That could be completely off base though. Being season 6, that's usually when contracts are come up for renewal; so she might have decided she wasn't interested in renewing, given the long hours and that she and her husband have just had their baby recently. And you'd think, seeing as the network renewed Supergirl a while ago, if they had gone in planning on it being the last season, they might have said so sooner; suggesting this might be a more recent development.
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Post by dazz on Sept 26, 2020 12:29:07 GMT
I don't think it's been cancelled as much as it's simply ending, cancelled means ending before it's time, ending is going out of their own accord, which this sounds like which is the same as Arrow last season. I also doubt it, so long as these shows continue to bolster the CW's network averages they wont be dropping them anytime soon, plus as WB is part owners and any superhero show boosts their DC IP's they are going to likely be pushing to at worst just replace those shows with new ones. Also CW makes way too much off of their DC line up, they bring in over $1b in revenue for the network a year and each show at most probably cost them under $75m to produce a 20 episode series, so it's doubtful they are going to kill that cash cow anytime soon especally not as they just introduce their own Superman and probably have aspirations of Batwoman going on a 7 year run at minimum. I don't know. There's kind of a fine line between a show being "cancelled" and reaching it's natural conclusion. I'm not sure the fact that they have foreknowledge of the ending and can plan for it to give the show a proper resolution necessarily qualifies it for the latter. Compare this to Arrow - that's ostensibly an instance where the people who were at the heart of the decision making within the show, as opposed to the network, that they were going to end with season 8. I imagine there was probably some variation of a conversation between the network, the producers and particularly Stephen Amell, where Stephen's contract was up, the network said, "we'd like to continue the show" and Stephen says he feels ready to be done with the show. The conversation(s) might have occurred in either season 6 or season 7, but ultimately they reached the compromise to do a limited run season 8, for sole purpose of being a final season. In contrast, did Melissa Benoist ask to leave the show, or is this the network saying they weren't renewing the show? Because it's the former, then I agree, it's the production choosing to bow out on their terms; whereas if it's the latter, then it's arguably a cancellation, just with advanced notice that allows the show to plan accordingly. And I don't know which is the case here. Oddly enough, trying to look up if there are any reports that it was Melissa's decision to leave that's prompting the show's end, produced an April fools to that effect from earlier this year, but that's it. Looking at her Instagram post, which announced this, she doesn't appear to get into more specifics than saying she's grateful they'll get to plan the conclusion, but to me that sounds more like someone looking on the upside to a decision that they had no say in; that at least they get to say goodbye. That could be completely off base though. Being season 6, that's usually when contracts are come up for renewal; so she might have decided she wasn't interested in renewing, given the long hours and that she and her husband have just had their baby recently. And you'd think, seeing as the network renewed Supergirl a while ago, if they had gone in planning on it being the last season, they might have said so sooner; suggesting this might be a more recent development. I agree it's a recent development, but taht suggest to me it's not a network choice, nothing new has happened network wise to cause this sudden change in opinion on the show, the ratings were already in, so had that and the cost been an issue they would have had the data to end the show and announce S6 as it's final back then, this reads more like it's coming from within the show atleast somewhat even if it is just due to Melissa wanting to leave the show at this point, similar to Arrow I think had Stephen wanted to still go they would have kept it going. I heard Melissa has interest in doing more Broadway which the show limits, is an issue, which depending on the situation could be better for a performer time wise than being the lead in a 22 episode a year series. I could see the show seeing the writing on the wall though, their numbers dropped HARD last season, maybe having another female superhero show on the same night took some shine off of them, because Batwoman did considerably better than Supergirl, though Supergirl still stayed noticeably higher than the CW's with or without DC averages in terms of ratings and demo's, but maybe the thought better to go out strong than fade into obscurity like some of CW shows have done, some of which I really liked but still the fans just dropped off after a while.
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