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Post by Sarge on Sept 30, 2020 2:29:02 GMT
The freedom to do something isn't freedom from consequence.
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Post by gameboy on Sept 30, 2020 2:49:05 GMT
Gosh, I guess I'm just getting old and conservative, and maybe looking like an alien is the wave of the future, but I can't blame the school for firing him. And he really can't act too surprised because I'd think most people would find his appearance to be unsettling and quite distracting. He had the whites of his eyes removed??? Wtf? I'm glad the school got rid of this freakshow.Also, he referred to undergoing an existential crisis (i.e., nervous breakdown) and I'm just wondering if him teaching young kids is something he seeks out because it makes him feel less threatened.  But young children shouldn't have to deal with any of that kind of thing. "regular guy" my ass! I don't think his physical appearance has any bearing on his performance. BTW, from the sound of things you should be in the classroom learning with the kids. Your mentality demonstrates that. A teacher can't show up for work wearing a ballerina's tutu and a swastika tattooed on his forehead either. There are certain dress and appearance requirements for any job. Maybe he can get a job performing in the circus? I could say you should be in that classroom too but I'm sure nobody wants you anywhere near their kids. Lol.
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 30, 2020 3:12:54 GMT
I think it was absolutely wrong to dismiss him just because his students felt "uncomfortable." They were placating parents over appearance. This reminds me when parents didn't want black teachers because that made them "uncomfortable," or "gay" teachers, all because of feeling "uncomfortable." Instead, how about this man take some time and explain his "scary tattoos" to these children, especially while they're young, so they don't freak out based on what other people "look like?" How about we start teaching kids not to be afraid and judgmental based on appearance? How about we let someone's work speak for itself? What's next, we don't like a black woman's dredlocks because they look "scary" so we fire her? What gives her more protection than, let's say, a lesbian or gay man who is obvious? This sends a very dreadful and superficial message to children. I agree with your examples, but none of the examples correlate with this French bloke. Not even close. To suggest that an effeminate gay man or a black woman with dreadlocks can compare with this demonic apparition is ridiculous as well as disingenuous. This guy wanted to be scary. Well, he succeeded. There was no way that he didn't know that he was going to a lot of stares, ESPECIALLY with children and now he's acting surprised and put down. Nope, he doesn't get to have it both ways. And what's he going to say to kindergartners (!!!) about looking like a creature from another planet? A lot of these little kids are already going to be anxious and fearful about going to school. This is a new experience for many of them. Going to school is a big enough deal. But then to force them to have to spend their first day away from home with some sub-Satanic looking thing! No, no, no! This is going to TRAUMATIZE more than a few kids and to try and for you to suggest otherwise is naive at best. And if the parents don't want to expose their child to this horror for a whole year, then that is their damn prerogative! And did another poster say that this guy wanted to keep on getting tattoos until his skin turned black?!!! You really think this is not going to scare children half way to a very early death? What can you be thinking? This guy is a straight up whack job. If this guy really wants to teach, then he can teach at a college where the students are all adults and can make up their own mind whether or not they want to test their fear threshold and jump into the abyss. Or he can teach at a school for the blind. Sheesh! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 30, 2020 4:06:10 GMT
I think it was absolutely wrong to dismiss him just because his students felt "uncomfortable." They were placating parents over appearance. This reminds me when parents didn't want black teachers because that made them "uncomfortable," or "gay" teachers, all because of feeling "uncomfortable."Instead, how about this man take some time and explain his "scary tattoos" to these children, especially while they're young, so they don't freak out based on what other people "look like?" How about we start teaching kids not to be afraid and judgmental based on appearance? How about we let someone's work speak for itself? What's next, we don't like a black woman's dredlocks because they look "scary" so we fire her? What gives her more protection than, let's say, a lesbian or gay man who is obvious? This sends a very dreadful and superficial message to children. Different dynamic. Sexuality and skin color is genetic and innate, not about what people look like, its just who they are and the package they come with. Tattoo's come after the fact and are done by personal choice. They do not need explaining to children. This is more about this man's psyche and obsession. Why do kids need to know about whatever obsessive compulsion he has in the need to layer after layer darken himself and look demonic?
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 30, 2020 4:19:40 GMT
I think it was absolutely wrong to dismiss him just because his students felt "uncomfortable." They were placating parents over appearance. This reminds me when parents didn't want black teachers because that made them "uncomfortable," or "gay" teachers, all because of feeling "uncomfortable."Instead, how about this man take some time and explain his "scary tattoos" to these children, especially while they're young, so they don't freak out based on what other people "look like?" How about we start teaching kids not to be afraid and judgmental based on appearance? How about we let someone's work speak for itself? What's next, we don't like a black woman's dredlocks because they look "scary" so we fire her? What gives her more protection than, let's say, a lesbian or gay man who is obvious? This sends a very dreadful and superficial message to children. Different dynamic. Sexuality and skin color is genetic and innate, not about what people look like, its just who they are and the package they come with. Tattoo's come after the fact and are done by personal choice. They do not need explaining to children. This is more about this man's psyche and obsession. Why do kids need to know about whatever obsessive compulsion he has in the need to layer after layer darken himself and look demonic? They might as well go ahead and hire a cross-dressing, Satan worshipping crackhead so the person can tell the little ones all about his various idiosyncrasies. I mean they have to learn how everybody's different and must practice tolerance, so get them while they're young. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 30, 2020 4:20:32 GMT
I think it was absolutely wrong to dismiss him just because his students felt "uncomfortable." They were placating parents over appearance. This reminds me when parents didn't want black teachers because that made them "uncomfortable," or "gay" teachers, all because of feeling "uncomfortable." Instead, how about this man take some time and explain his "scary tattoos" to these children, especially while they're young, so they don't freak out based on what other people "look like?" How about we start teaching kids not to be afraid and judgmental based on appearance? How about we let someone's work speak for itself? What's next, we don't like a black woman's dredlocks because they look "scary" so we fire her? What gives her more protection than, let's say, a lesbian or gay man who is obvious? This sends a very dreadful and superficial message to children. I agree with your examples, but none of the examples correlate with this French bloke. Not even close. To suggest that an effeminate gay man or a black woman with dreadlocks can compare with this demonic apparition is ridiculous as well as disingenuous. This guy wanted to be scary. Well, he succeeded. There was no way that he didn't know that he was going to a lot of stares, ESPECIALLY with children and now he's acting surprised and put down. Nope, he doesn't get to have it both ways. And what's he going to say to kindergartners (!!!) about looking like a creature from another planet? A lot of these little kids are already going to be anxious and fearful about going to school. This is a new experience for many of them. Going to school is a big enough deal. But then to force them to have to spend their first day away from home with some sub-Satanic looking thing! No, no, no! This is going to TRAUMATIZE more than a few kids and to try and for you to suggest otherwise is naive at best. And if the parents don't want to expose their child to this horror for a whole year, then that is their damn prerogative! And did another poster say that this guy wanted to keep on getting tattoos until his skin turned black?!!! You really think this is not going to scare children half way to a very early death? What can you be thinking? This guy is a straight up whack job. If this guy really wants to teach, then he can teach at a college where the students are all adults and can make up their own mind whether or not they want to test their fear threshold and jump into the abyss. Or he can teach at a school for the blind. Sheesh! Yes, false equivalencies regarding the point autumn is wanting to make, which is skewered, just like this dudes own projection of wanting to be seen as acceptable and appropriate to teach school children. His persona is that of aberrant and dark intensity and is not something that school children need be exposed too.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Sept 30, 2020 4:24:14 GMT
Different dynamic. Sexuality and skin color is genetic and innate, not about what people look like, its just who they are and the package they come with. Tattoo's come after the fact and are done by personal choice. They do not need explaining to children. This is more about this man's psyche and obsession. Why do kids need to know about whatever obsessive compulsion he has in the need to layer after layer darken himself and look demonic? They might as well go ahead and hire a cross-dressing, Satan worshipping crackhead so the person can tell the little ones all about his various idiosyncrasies. I mean they have to learn how everybody's different and must practice tolerance, so get them while they're young. Or get Roman and Minnie Castavet to teach them....
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 30, 2020 5:21:28 GMT
They might as well go ahead and hire a cross-dressing, Satan worshipping crackhead so the person can tell the little ones all about his various idiosyncrasies. I mean they have to learn how everybody's different and must practice tolerance, so get them while they're young. Or get Roman and Minnie Castavet to teach them....
Minnie Castevett as a kindergarten teacher! Now you're singing my song! Instead of milk and cookies, for the kiddies Minnie would bring in Lipton's tea and some of that raspberry cake she makes (I always thought it looked delicious!). She would teach the kids spelling by using anagrams and in geography class, she would show them Dubrovnik on the map. Music class would consist of learning to chant in Latin while Laura Louise plays the flute. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 30, 2020 5:29:47 GMT
I agree with your examples, but none of the examples correlate with this French bloke. Not even close. To suggest that an effeminate gay man or a black woman with dreadlocks can compare with this demonic apparition is ridiculous as well as disingenuous. This guy wanted to be scary. Well, he succeeded. There was no way that he didn't know that he was going to a lot of stares, ESPECIALLY with children and now he's acting surprised and put down. Nope, he doesn't get to have it both ways. And what's he going to say to kindergartners (!!!) about looking like a creature from another planet? A lot of these little kids are already going to be anxious and fearful about going to school. This is a new experience for many of them. Going to school is a big enough deal. But then to force them to have to spend their first day away from home with some sub-Satanic looking thing! No, no, no! This is going to TRAUMATIZE more than a few kids and to try and for you to suggest otherwise is naive at best. And if the parents don't want to expose their child to this horror for a whole year, then that is their damn prerogative! And did another poster say that this guy wanted to keep on getting tattoos until his skin turned black?!!! You really think this is not going to scare children half way to a very early death? What can you be thinking? This guy is a straight up whack job. If this guy really wants to teach, then he can teach at a college where the students are all adults and can make up their own mind whether or not they want to test their fear threshold and jump into the abyss. Or he can teach at a school for the blind. Sheesh! Yes, false equivalencies regarding the point autumn is wanting to make, which is skewered, just like this dudes own projection of wanting to be seen as acceptable and appropriate to teach school children. His persona is that of aberrant and dark intensity and is not something that school children need be exposed too. "Aberrant and dark", yes. (You're more concise than I am.) He is definitely that. The guy has no argument. Children do not need the prince of darkness teaching them their ABCs. It's just bad vibes. |
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Post by gameboy on Sept 30, 2020 7:01:18 GMT
Yes, false equivalencies regarding the point autumn is wanting to make, which is skewered, just like this dudes own projection of wanting to be seen as acceptable and appropriate to teach school children. His persona is that of aberrant and dark intensity and is not something that school children need be exposed too. "Aberrant and dark", yes. (You're more concise than I am.) He is definitely that. The guy has no argument. Children do not need the prince of darkness teaching them their ABCs. It's just bad vibes. Next they need to fire the idiot who hired him.
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But young children shouldn't have to deal with any of that kind of thing. "regular guy" my ass!
