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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 2:46:53 GMT
First game in the three game series has ended. Joe won game one. When he said, "Will you shut up" to the President of The United States....whoa, knock out. Trump was reeling and desperate for the remaining 90 minutes.
Game two is in two weeks I believe. Trump has to do some healing. Cuts have to close up, bruises have to go down.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Sept 30, 2020 2:49:02 GMT
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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 2:51:42 GMT
Disappointed Xeliou66 didn't do a play-by-play thread. Play by play was easy to do for this one. TRUMP -- Blah, blah, blah, Hunter, blah, blah, blah, Hunter, blah, blah, blah, mail in ballots suck BIDEN -- talking about what he wants to do as President.
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Post by millar70 on Sept 30, 2020 2:57:01 GMT
Biden got through the thing without turning into a drooling mess, so I guess that's a plus for him.
Anyone who thinks that Trump wasn't more powerful and didn't totally rule this debate is a person of limited intelligence. Hence the OP.
Trump talking about law and order was a major victory for him. Especially when Biden couldn't name one law enforcement group that is backing him.
The only plus for Biden was looking straight into the camera, that was effective. And he did try to distance himself from the Lunatic Left, though that may hurt more than help amongst his own base.
Trump really is a bull in a china shop, there is no stopping him once he's unleashed. That's why many folks dig him so much.
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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 3:02:58 GMT
Anyone who thinks that Trump wasn't more powerful and didn't totally rule this debate is a person of limited intelligence. Hence the OP. So interrupting, crying about the moderator, talking over someone so we don't hear the man's words makes one more powerful? It's brown shirts Nazi Germany. Those were their tactics. Don't let others speak. Cry about being aggrieved by some nonsense (Chris Wallace, mail in ballots...) Hey, dude, the highlight of that debate to be played for the next five decades was Biden saying "Shut up" and calling the Prez a clown. That's part of history now.
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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 3:06:11 GMT
Biden was looking straight into the camera, that was effective. Yes, it was. Look, most people know who they are voting for. The debate was meaningless in regards to the election. But Biden was more composed, effective, and, yes, looking directly at us the American people does work. Not a hard thing to do. Trump's eyes are all over the place. Shifty.
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Post by hehatesshe on Sept 30, 2020 3:07:14 GMT
Idiots kept saying "Biden wouldn't even show up,lol"
They said "If he shows up, he'll look like a fool."
I guess we're moving on to "Trump was powerful, did you see him whine about Chris Fox News host Chris Wallace!"
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Post by hehatesshe on Sept 30, 2020 3:08:27 GMT
Biden was looking straight into the camera, that was effective. Yes, it was. Look, most people know who they are voting for. The debate was meaningless in regards to the election. But Biden was more composed, effective, and, yes, looking directly at us the American people does work. Not a hard thing to do. Trump's eyes are all over the place. Shifty. It's because he was playing 4D chess in his big brain. |
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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 3:11:09 GMT
I have a feeling Game One is all we will see.
What's the point really? There's an immature nutcase who asked scientists if they could look into injecting disinfectant into human beings and putting lights in their bodies and that guy is taking questions on the economy, health care, the election, climate change.... Does it really matter what that guy says? Four years ago he said Mexico was going to pay for our wall.
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Post by millar70 on Sept 30, 2020 3:18:18 GMT
Biden was looking straight into the camera, that was effective. Yes, it was. Look, most people know who they are voting for. The debate was meaningless in regards to the election. But Biden was more composed, effective, and, yes, looking directly at us the American people does work. Not a hard thing to do. Trump's eyes are all over the place. Shifty. Trump has never been a look straight into the camera kind of politician. He doesn't put on an act to cater, he's just himself. Once again, that's why folks like him. Biden looking into the camera was effective.....for him. It doesn't matter whether Trump does it. It helps Biden because it shows us that he is at least awake and aware of his surroundings. |
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Post by millar70 on Sept 30, 2020 3:21:19 GMT
Idiots kept saying "Biden wouldn't even show up,lol" They said "If he shows up, he'll look like a fool." I guess we're moving on to "Trump was powerful, did you see him whine about Chris Fox News host Chris Wallace!" Just because Biden was coherent doesn't mean he won the debate. There were many questions that both Trump and Chris Wallace asked that we never got any answers. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Sept 30, 2020 3:22:45 GMT
Yes, it was. Look, most people know who they are voting for. The debate was meaningless in regards to the election. But Biden was more composed, effective, and, yes, looking directly at us the American people does work. Not a hard thing to do. Trump's eyes are all over the place. Shifty. Trump has never been a look straight into the camera kind of politician. He doesn't put on an act to cater, he's just himself. Once again, that's why folks like him. Biden looking into the camera was effective.....for him. It doesn't matter whether Trump does it. It helps Biden because it shows us that he is at least awake and aware of his surroundings. They probably had to put a blinking light there, both to get his attention and to activate the Supersecretspecialsupplements he assuredly was on, amirite? |
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Post by hehatesshe on Sept 30, 2020 3:24:58 GMT
Idiots kept saying "Biden wouldn't even show up,lol" They said "If he shows up, he'll look like a fool." I guess we're moving on to "Trump was powerful, did you see him whine about Chris Fox News host Chris Wallace!" Just because Biden was coherent doesn't mean he won the debate. There were many questions that both Trump and Chris Wallace asked that we never got any answers. amrita? Trump doesn't get to ask the questions. Biden answered all of Chris' questions. If you couldn't hear them, I'd suggest you contact Trump's handlers and encourage them to get him to take his Ritalin. |
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 30, 2020 3:35:56 GMT
First U.S. presidential debate fails to move investors"Right now it looks like an even split between Trump and Biden, so it is difficult for the markets to move," said Ayako Sera, a market strategist at Sumitomo Mitsui Trust Bank in Tokyo. "What people are most concerned about is the fairness of the election and how it will be carried out." The S&P 500 tumbled around 10% from record highs this month before recently paring some of those losses as investors worried about a prolonged recovery from the coronavirus and uncertainty related to the presidential vote. Many investors view Biden as more likely to raise taxes, and see a second term for Trump, who favors tax cuts and deregulation, as better for the overall stock market. At the same time, a Trump win could spark concerns over ramped up tensions between Washington and Beijing. In the run-up to the 2016 election, investors widely predicted that a Trump victory would hurt stocks due to his unpredictability and trade-war threats against China and Mexico. However, the S&P 500 surged 5% in the month following his unexpected election win in what was dubbed the "Trump trade", as investors bet Trump would cut taxes and regulation, and boost infrastructure spending. "The markets almost always think they favor a Republican but did just fine under Clinton and Obama. There is comfort in that hindsight perspective regardless of what happens,” said Jake Dollarhide, chief executive officer of Longbow Asset Management in Tulsa, Oklahoma, as he watched the debate. With expectations that the increased use of mail-in ballots by voters concerned about the coronavirus could mean no immediate winner is announced, S&P 500 options show investors are bracing for volatility in November and December. www.devdiscourse.com/article/politics/1232768-first-us-presidential-debate-fails-to-move-investors
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 30, 2020 12:44:32 GMT
Biden got through the thing without turning into a drooling mess, so I guess that's a plus for him.
Anyone who thinks that Trump wasn't more powerful and didn't totally rule this debate is a person of limited intelligence. Hence the OP. Trump talking about law and order was a major victory for him. Especially when Biden couldn't name one law enforcement group that is backing him. The only plus for Biden was looking straight into the camera, that was effective. And he did try to distance himself from the Lunatic Left, though that may hurt more than help amongst his own base. Trump really is a bull in a china shop, there is no stopping him once he's unleashed. That's why many folks dig him so much. You could've written this before the debate, this was always going to be your takeaway. As an independent voter, I've found over the years that hardcore supporters of either candidate always insist their guy looked better, like sixth graders talking about a schoolyard fight that ended in a draw. I don't think anybody 'won' the debate, though Biden stands a better chance of appealing to a broader audience with a performance like that. Trump acting like a cartoon character only appeals to those who already supported him; not good for a guy who lost the popular vote last time, has seen sagging support among moderates and is trailing in the polls. I saw a clip last night, and reading the recaps, it's exactly as suspected. Trump's debate style is his presidency in microcosm. Just keep yelling louder than the other guy and hope nobody notices you have nothing to actually say. Distraction, deflection, total chaos. Trump creates chaos and feeds off of it. "NEVER MIND REALITY, LOOK AT ME OVER HERE! I'M YELLING SOMETHING, ALWAYS YELLING SOMETHING EITHER ON TWITTER OR EVEN AT A DEBATE, TALKING OVER EVERYONE ELSE SO YOU CAN'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON!!!" Yeah, more powerful. Reality has no place in Trumpworld. He's on the Woodward tapes admitting he downplayed the virus; a voter in an open forum asks him why he would downplay it and he says, "Actually, I up-played it." Does he not realize we've all heard the opposite come out of his own mouth? You can't 'fake news' that one away, though he did try. Hell, days ago when we all found out (what we already knew) that I pay more in taxes than Trump, he again claimed fake news and then insisted he was the only president not to take a salary. Hoover and Kennedy famously didn't accept salaries either. If you didn't know, it's not a difficult thing to look up. Again, with all the yelling and all caps posting, he figures people will just take him at his word. And his supporters will. Last night, Trump encouraged his supporters to "go into the polls and watch very carefully." That won't be disruptive at all. Of course this is no worse than Trump recently calling on his supporters to illegally try to vote twice, you know, to 'test the system.' He literally told them to mail in their votes and then go to the polls to see if they could vote again. I don't know what to say at this point. Don't take my word for it, look it up. No really, I want you to look it up. His continued insistence that the election will be 'rigged' against him is puzzling. This was his claim leading up to the election in 2016, that the system was rigged; a system that got him elected somehow. He boasts about having more support than Biden, but still believes this 'shadow government' that couldn't rig the previous election has it all figured out now. Trump is an agent of chaos. When asked to denounce a far right group, he told them to "stand back and stand by." Shit man, that's not even a dog whistle anymore. It doesn't reach out to disenfranchised voters, it doesn't bridge any social divide, it doesn't calm any tensions, it doesn't help anything. It makes everything worse. In fact the only motivation for that comment could be to raise tensions. It's as if the man wants to further destabilize our country. The worst part of all this? Trump is only a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. The real problem lies with people willing to tune all of this out because they're so angry with 'the left.' They hate content warnings, inclusivity and equal rights for all more than a man who openly criticizes war heroes (he can deny calling vets and KIA 'losers' all he wants, he repeatedly said the same about McCain in the press. There's a trend here.) and lies about the severity of an illness that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. They applaud this 'bull in a china shop' no matter how many times he threatens his own citizens with dogs and "ominous weapons." They'd rather burn down our democracy than let the country lean to the left for a little while.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 30, 2020 12:53:59 GMT
I have a feeling Game One is all we will see. What's the point really? There's an immature nutcase who asked scientists if they could look into injecting disinfectant into human beings and putting lights in their bodies and that guy is taking questions on the economy, health care, the election, climate change.... Does it really matter what that guy says? Four years ago he said Mexico was going to pay for our wall. No, and that's the scary part. At this point I believe there is literally nothing he could say that would dissuade his supporters from voting for him. He could show up to the next debate and admit on camera, "I'm a stooge for Putin. Have been the whole time. I've helped him destabilize the American democracy for years because I was in debt up to my eyeballs to the Russians. I've done my part, and he still wants more. I can't live with the pressure anymore. I'm sorry," and then pull a Budd Dwyer. They'd vote for him posthumously. Whatever it takes to, as a Trump lawn sign I've seen reads, "Make the democrats cry again."
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Post by wolf359 on Sept 30, 2020 13:53:29 GMT
I actually missed that 1 moment in the debate (I turned it off after 15 minutes when I realized that it was going downhill however I did go back and watch it again before it was over, I saw the last 15 minutes of it and even that was tough to watch) when Chris Wallace asked Trump to denounce White Supremacists and Biden asked him to denouce "Proud Boys" and instead of Trump doing that, He said to "Proud Boys" to "stand back...and stand by".
I later did watch that moment in a video that was posted on YOUTUBE and almost all of the comments in the comment section under that video were saying that the media took that comment completely out of context, that "Proud Boys" is not a White Supremacists Group, that they have members that are not white, and that they're leader is not white (after last night, I actually think that all White Supremacists Groups really overall consider Trump to be they're leader).
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Post by politicidal on Sept 30, 2020 15:01:25 GMT
I actually missed that 1 moment in the debate (I turned it off after 15 minutes when I realized that it was going downhill however I did go back and watch it again before it was over, I saw the last 15 minutes of it and even that was tough to watch) when Chris Wallace asked Trump to denounce White Supremacists and Biden asked him to denouce "Proud Boys" and instead of Trump doing that, He said to "Proud Boys" to "stand back...and stand by".
I later did watch that moment in a video that was posted on YOUTUBE and almost all of the comments in the comment section under that video were saying that the media took that comment completely out of context, that "Proud Boys" is not a White Supremacists Group, that they have members that are not white, and that they're leader is not white (after last night, I actually think that all White Supremacists Groups really overall consider Trump to be they're leader). You're gonna believe youtube commentators?
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Post by marco266 on Sept 30, 2020 15:35:46 GMT
Anyone who thinks that Trump wasn't more powerful and didn't totally rule this debate is a person of limited intelligence. They'd rather burn down our democracy than let the country lean to the left for a little while. Your post was good. Your last line illustrates what the Trump supporters are -- immature children. They want what they want and can not handle anything that is not what they want. And like children, they also are attracted to childish things. Just look at what that guy millar70 wrote: "Anyone who thinks that Trump wasn't more powerful and didn't totally rule this debate is a person of limited intelligence." Wow. What an idiotic, childish take on things. Yes, being loud and bullying and "powerful" means winning a debate. I swear that's how an eight year old would judge what is supposed to be an intellectual discourse between two candidates. We always hear about the Lincoln/Douglas debates. I seriously doubt the winner was determined by who was "more powerful."
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Post by sdm3 on Sept 30, 2020 15:37:05 GMT
Disappointed Xeliou66 didn't do a play-by-play thread. “We’re at the first commercial break and the fucking piece of shit Falcons choked AGAIN!!!” |
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