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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 4, 2020 11:31:26 GMT
70m is pretty much a full movie budget. Not a Blockbuster Superhero movie, but a movie nonetheless. There was never was a full Snyder Cut. It was more of a presentation. With animatics and expository cards describing what they wanted to shoot. Apparently it was good enough to get 70m bux. screenrant.com/justice-league-snyder-cut-budget-70-million/ |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 4, 2020 14:29:47 GMT
If it was gonna cost that much, they should had just skipped the Snyder Cut and just made George Miller's version from thirteen years ago as a reboot.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 4, 2020 14:42:35 GMT
If it was gonna cost that much, they should had just skipped the Snyder Cut and just made George Miller's version from thirteen years ago as a reboot. One of the hollywood outlets figured/pointed out that Hbo Max would need to get 4.5m new subscribers to pay for the 70m.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 4, 2020 14:44:50 GMT
what's the total amount spent on Justice League now?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 4, 2020 15:16:23 GMT
This thread might shed a bit more light on it.
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Post by DarkManX on Oct 5, 2020 21:59:55 GMT
For that much money and for a movie that will be exclusively on a streaming service this had better be as good if not better than the Avengers movies.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 6, 2020 22:37:37 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 19, 2020 17:44:31 GMT
what's the total amount spent on Justice League now? From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance.
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Post by dazz on Oct 20, 2020 3:18:37 GMT
what's the total amount spent on Justice League now? From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance. Probably higher, as you have to think a film this big got themselves some tax rebates, so $300m is likely just the cost to the studio, probably looking at a considerably higher amount actually spent on the film itself.
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 20, 2020 8:18:10 GMT
what's the total amount spent on Justice League now? From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance. At least it was separate entities forking out the dough. It's not much comfort, but some. Warner Brothers shelled out the initial amount in 2017. Now it's HBO which is owned by At&t which also owns Warner Brothers since 2018. Still a shell game of money 370m for a final price tag is pretty high. Now if the outcome does show direct interest by the consumer maybe At&t will show interest to continue, but maybe with a little more constraint on spending in the future. I don't think anybody begrudges spending money, but almost 400m to get a product to consumers that probably didn't need but 200-250m is just wasteful and makes future products being produced usually unlikely.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 20, 2020 20:39:39 GMT
From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance. Probably higher, as you have to think a film this big got themselves some tax rebates, so $300m is likely just the cost to the studio, probably looking at a considerably higher amount actually spent on the film itself. Well, 300 mil is what imdb said for budget ESTIMATED, so already give or take 25 mill? (In fairness, thats the budget estimate they gave after Whedons re-shoots, so maybe Snyders original cut was 250? We'll never really know). Then there's advertising costs, which for a movie like this is another huge number. Lets say another 50 mill. But could be as much as another 100 mil! And now, the extra 70 they've put into the Snyder Cut version. All told = 420 - 470 mil!. OUCH! The best we can hope for at this point is that this new cut is good enough to reignite interest in new movies with this cast; more Cavill Superman, more Momoa Aquaman, and maybe even some more Batfleck (which personally I would like to see). That's the only way this will translate into more money for WB. Because at this point this Justice League movie alone can only make back a little money. Not the boat loads they were hoping for. But a slew of future standalone movies could make quite a bit. And who knows, we might even live to see a new Justice League movie (reboot or sequel) within our lifetimes.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 20, 2020 20:47:03 GMT
From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance. At least it was separate entities forking out the dough. It's not much comfort, but some. Warner Brothers shelled out the initial amount in 2017. Now it's HBO which is owned by At&t which also owns Warner Brothers since 2018. Still a shell game of money 370m for a final price tag is pretty high. Now if the outcome does show direct interest by the consumer maybe At&t will show interest to continue, but maybe with a little more constraint on spending in the future. I don't think anybody begrudges spending money, but almost 400m to get a product to consumers that probably didn't need but 200-250m is just wasteful and makes future products being produced usually unlikely. That's part of my argument
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 21, 2020 8:23:41 GMT
At least it was separate entities forking out the dough. It's not much comfort, but some. Warner Brothers shelled out the initial amount in 2017. Now it's HBO which is owned by At&t which also owns Warner Brothers since 2018. Still a shell game of money 370m for a final price tag is pretty high. Now if the outcome does show direct interest by the consumer maybe At&t will show interest to continue, but maybe with a little more constraint on spending in the future. I don't think anybody begrudges spending money, but almost 400m to get a product to consumers that probably didn't need but 200-250m is just wasteful and makes future products being produced usually unlikely. That's part of my argument Yeah, I thought that was it. I think we might get lucky this time around with the Streaming. The bare minimum it could be evidence of wanting a team up movie to At&t. That's why I qualified with "usually." I think this situation might be the exception to the rule. WB/At&t always frustrates me with overspending making each project needing to make way too much back to continue.
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Post by dazz on Oct 21, 2020 10:42:41 GMT
Probably higher, as you have to think a film this big got themselves some tax rebates, so $300m is likely just the cost to the studio, probably looking at a considerably higher amount actually spent on the film itself. Well, 300 mil is what imdb said for budget ESTIMATED, so already give or take 25 mill? (In fairness, thats the budget estimate they gave after Whedons re-shoots, so maybe Snyders original cut was 250? We'll never really know). Then there's advertising costs, which for a movie like this is another huge number. Lets say another 50 mill. But could be as much as another 100 mil! And now, the extra 70 they've put into the Snyder Cut version. All told = 420 - 470 mil!. OUCH! The best we can hope for at this point is that this new cut is good enough to reignite interest in new movies with this cast; more Cavill Superman, more Momoa Aquaman, and maybe even some more Batfleck (which personally I would like to see). That's the only way this will translate into more money for WB. Because at this point this Justice League movie alone can only make back a little money. Not the boat loads they were hoping for. But a slew of future standalone movies could make quite a bit. And who knows, we might even live to see a new Justice League movie (reboot or sequel) within our lifetimes. $100m on marketing would be the bare minimum, no way in hell they spent "only" $50m on marketing this movie, BVS is estimated to have spent $156m on marketing, the majority of the SW movies since Disney brought them spent between $165-185m each, even Shazam is said to have cost about $100-105m on marketing. Originally it was budgeted for $250m I think, but Whedon's hiring and reshoots bumped it up to $300m, how much of that was just for Whedon though is anyones guess, I heard he was estimated to make $10m from Ultron, so I could see him getting a fat payday here as well especially if WB felt forced to hire him to "fix" their movie. With what they were said to have lost on JL originally, estimated about $50-100m iirc, adding $70m more for reshoots the Snyder Cut needs to make $120-170m in new subscribers to finally put JL in credit in regards to the movie itself, but saying that it would be lower most likely due to 2 1/2 years of DVD, Digital and Blu-Ray sales, maybe now only need $100-150m but that's still like 10 million new subscribers HBO Max would need, unless by then some of their TV or streaming deals ran out in which case it could be even less but who knows. Thing is if the reshoots reignite the casts interest in doing a 2nd JL movie that could be all we need, as WB wouldn't want to piss off Gal or Momoa who they are probably expecting trilogies out of, they still want to do a Flash movie, and if Affleck is up for more Batman stuff I could see them maybe going ok hell with it lets do it, still hasn't found their footing exactly, so maybe they simply learn to not spend as much on their films so they can recoup their money at a lower rate...  sorry couldn't keep a straight face there, yeah it's unlikely, that they would keep a budget low, morel ikely they would make it for even more money the plebs they be.
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Post by dazz on Oct 21, 2020 10:55:40 GMT
From IMDB- Budget:$300,000,000 (estimated) So now, 370 mill. Ouch! Still, if this does well I foresee them giving this cast, and maybe even a sequel, another chance. At least it was separate entities forking out the dough. It's not much comfort, but some. Warner Brothers shelled out the initial amount in 2017. Now it's HBO which is owned by At&t which also owns Warner Brothers since 2018. Still a shell game of money 370m for a final price tag is pretty high. Now if the outcome does show direct interest by the consumer maybe At&t will show interest to continue, but maybe with a little more constraint on spending in the future. I don't think anybody begrudges spending money, but almost 400m to get a product to consumers that probably didn't need but 200-250m is just wasteful and makes future products being produced usually unlikely. Well you think that was the original price tag, the $300-370m comes from WB being nervous bitches with no spine and replacing Snyder after principal photography with Whedon who remade over half the movie, which is also why the $70m now is being spent to finish Zack's work and refilm some things and retool the movie into a mini series. But I agree the spending is wasteful, sometime you can get why they cost so much, like Endgame it's $350m pricetag makes sense when you think it had atleast 4 of it's stars earning $15-20m a piece, another 8 making between probably $4-8m and another 10-15 making $1-2m like even lowballing it on those actors alone it's over $100m just on cast, then you have the writer and director combo's which is their 4th Marvel film overall and each movie has made exponentially more money so they likely were getting good paydays also and it all builds up, plus IW and prior Avengers movie told Marvel hey this is going to make billions so they had reason to not be conservative with their cash, why WB felt the confidence/ability to splash out like they did when BVS couldn't crack $1b hell at that point no DCEU movie could crack $1b is beyond me.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 21, 2020 19:34:00 GMT
Well, now that it’s been announced that Jared Leto will be added to the film, I guess that $70 million price tag is starting to make sense.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 5, 2020 14:34:19 GMT
At least it was separate entities forking out the dough. It's not much comfort, but some. Warner Brothers shelled out the initial amount in 2017. Now it's HBO which is owned by At&t which also owns Warner Brothers since 2018. Still a shell game of money 370m for a final price tag is pretty high. Now if the outcome does show direct interest by the consumer maybe At&t will show interest to continue, but maybe with a little more constraint on spending in the future. I don't think anybody begrudges spending money, but almost 400m to get a product to consumers that probably didn't need but 200-250m is just wasteful and makes future products being produced usually unlikely. Well you think that was the original price tag, the $300-370m comes from WB being nervous bitches with no spine and replacing Snyder after principal photography with Whedon who remade over half the movie, which is also why the $70m now is being spent to finish Zack's work and refilm some things and retool the movie into a mini series. But I agree the spending is wasteful, sometime you can get why they cost so much, like Endgame it's $350m pricetag makes sense when you think it had atleast 4 of it's stars earning $15-20m a piece, another 8 making between probably $4-8m and another 10-15 making $1-2m like even lowballing it on those actors alone it's over $100m just on cast, then you have the writer and director combo's which is their 4th Marvel film overall and each movie has made exponentially more money so they likely were getting good paydays also and it all builds up, plus IW and prior Avengers movie told Marvel hey this is going to make billions so they had reason to not be conservative with their cash, why WB felt the confidence/ability to splash out like they did when BVS couldn't crack $1b hell at that point no DCEU movie could crack $1b is beyond me. Yeah, this is starting to look like a massive money waste.
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