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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 13:22:31 GMT
wegotthiscovered.com/movies/wild-rumor-batman-sequels-scrapped/amp/WB is thinking of scrapping the Matt Reeve trilogy and seeing how Zack Snyder’s Justice League does. There have been rumors Ben Affleck is interested in making “His” Batman movie. Only “If” WB will not meddle in his film and let him have complete creative control. And with Flash having multiple Batman characters, there are a lot of directions they can go. They can’t exactly scrap “The Batman” at this point. But they can decide not to make it a trilogy.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 8, 2020 15:34:02 GMT
Define difficult though, he doesn't seem like the prima donna type.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 8, 2020 23:05:18 GMT
Define difficult though, he doesn't seem like the prima donna type. Difficult = being a Twilight actor and having the nerve to usurp the Randian edgelord Snyder Batman. I wish I could say I was shocked to find the "source" in that article making your typical anti-woke boogeyman vids. Alas, it's a tiring world with tiring people. I'm sorry all the Stacy's like Edward Cullen so much, but I'm afraid you guys might have to get used to him. If it's any consolation, you'll probably completely flip positions as people who hate Batman castings always do once they see it. |
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Oct 8, 2020 23:09:19 GMT
Define difficult though, he doesn't seem like the prima donna type. Difficult = being a Twilight actor and having the nerve to usurp the Randian edgelord Snyder Batman. I wish I could say I was shocked to find the "source" in that article making your typical anti-woke boogeyman vids. Alas, it's a tiring world with tiring people. I'm sorry all the Stacy's like Edward Cullen so much, but I'm afraid you guys might have to get used to him. If it's any consolation, you'll probably completely flip positions as people who hate Batman castings always do once they see it. Yeah, Michael Keaton certainly seemed an unusual choice back in 1988 but many were later satisfied with his performance. Same will probably apply to Pattinson. |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 8, 2020 23:25:16 GMT
Difficult = being a Twilight actor and having the nerve to usurp the Randian edgelord Snyder Batman. I wish I could say I was shocked to find the "source" in that article making your typical anti-woke boogeyman vids. Alas, it's a tiring world with tiring people. I'm sorry all the Stacy's like Edward Cullen so much, but I'm afraid you guys might have to get used to him. If it's any consolation, you'll probably completely flip positions as people who hate Batman castings always do once they see it. Yeah, Michael Keaton certainly seemed an unusual choice back in 1988 but many were later satisfied with his performance. Same will probably apply to Pattinson. I like his performance quite a bit, but he doesn't look the part. I have no issue with Robert Pattinson here in regards to acting ability, I have issue with his look. This was then solidified in the trailer. Christian Bale is the only actor who actually pulls off Batman and Bruce Wayne imo. Ben Affleck is a good Batman in every way, but I don't care for him as Bruce Wayne. I am only talking about live-action movies btw. Kevin Conway does great voice-work as Batman and Bruce Wayne.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 1:03:58 GMT
Yeah, Michael Keaton certainly seemed an unusual choice back in 1988 but many were later satisfied with his performance. Same will probably apply to Pattinson. I like his performance quite a bit, but he doesn't look the part. I have no issue with Robert Pattinson here in regards to acting ability, I have issue with his look. This was then solidified in the trailer. Christian Bale is the only actor who actually pulls off Batman and Bruce Wayne imo. Ben Affleck is a good Batman in every way, but I don't care for him as Bruce Wayne. I am only talking about live-action movies btw. Kevin Conway does great voice-work as Batman and Bruce Wayne. I think Ben is a great Bruce, but he doesn’t get a chance to show his suave side too much. It’s the script. He can definitely pull it off if given the right script. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 9, 2020 1:15:19 GMT
Define difficult though, he doesn't seem like the prima donna type. Difficult = being a Twilight actor and having the nerve to usurp the Randian edgelord Snyder Batman. I wish I could say I was shocked to find the "source" in that article making your typical anti-woke boogeyman vids. Alas, it's a tiring world with tiring people. I'm sorry all the Stacy's like Edward Cullen so much, but I'm afraid you guys might have to get used to him. If it's any consolation, you'll probably completely flip positions as people who hate Batman castings always do once they see it. The funny thing is that a bunch of anti-SJW YouTube videos currently seem to be capitalizing on this “rumor.”
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 1:17:20 GMT
I like his performance quite a bit, but he doesn't look the part. I have no issue with Robert Pattinson here in regards to acting ability, I have issue with his look. This was then solidified in the trailer. Christian Bale is the only actor who actually pulls off Batman and Bruce Wayne imo. Ben Affleck is a good Batman in every way, but I don't care for him as Bruce Wayne. I am only talking about live-action movies btw. Kevin Conway does great voice-work as Batman and Bruce Wayne. I think Ben is a great Bruce, but he doesn’t get a chance to show his suave side too much. It’s the script. He can definitely pull it off if given the right script. Could he pull it off given the right script? Probably, but I am not overly fond of his performance as Bruce Wayne in the DCEU so far. He is especially boring in Justice League, but that is because he is given nothing interesting to do. One thing that I think Ben Affleck isn't particularly good at in general is emotional depth. Christian Bale on the other hand is very good at portraying emotional depth and very different sides of the same person that all come together to form a fully realized character.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 9, 2020 1:25:16 GMT
Crazy to think they would follow the classic comics version. It is anti-woke now.
Same with James Bond, Tarzan, Conan...
He has to get wimpier, they cannot go in the other direction.
More troubled, more beta, more dependent.
You can set a clock to the wokeness.
"Oh here comes the parental atonement theme...it's 4: 30.."
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 9, 2020 1:36:10 GMT
Difficult = being a Twilight actor and having the nerve to usurp the Randian edgelord Snyder Batman. I wish I could say I was shocked to find the "source" in that article making your typical anti-woke boogeyman vids. Alas, it's a tiring world with tiring people. I'm sorry all the Stacy's like Edward Cullen so much, but I'm afraid you guys might have to get used to him. If it's any consolation, you'll probably completely flip positions as people who hate Batman castings always do once they see it. The funny thing is that a bunch of anti-SJW YouTube videos currently seem to be capitalizing on this “rumor.”  |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 1:36:28 GMT
Crazy to think they would follow the classic comics version. It is anti-woke now. Same with James Bond, Tarzan, Conan... He has to get wimpier, they cannot go in the other direction. More troubled, more beta, more dependent. You can set a clock to the wokeness. "Oh here comes the parental atonement theme...it's 4: 30.." Is emotional depth weak in your opinion? People like you seem to live in a fantasy world where men have no weakness or fragility. I am a man and I suffer emotionally all the time, so I am going to like watching characters I can relate to in that way. What you call wimpy I call realistic and interesting. Bruce Wayne has been a troubled character in every Batman movie. If your idea of realism is Tarzan, James Bond and Conan, then no wonder. Have you ever seen Greystoke? That shows a complex realistic version of Tarzan.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 9, 2020 1:40:47 GMT
Crazy to think they would follow the classic comics version. It is anti-woke now. Same with James Bond, Tarzan, Conan... He has to get wimpier, they cannot go in the other direction. More troubled, more beta, more dependent. You can set a clock to the wokeness. "Oh here comes the parental atonement theme...it's 4: 30.." Is emotional depth weak in your opinion? People like you seem to live in a fantasy world where men have no weakness or fragility. I am a man and I suffer emotionally all the time, so I am going to like watching characters I can relate to in that way. What you call wimpy I call realistic and interesting. Bruce Wayne has been a troubled character in every Batman movie. Prime seems like a strong believer in the ubermensch, if you know what I mean. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 9, 2020 1:41:06 GMT
Is emotional depth weak in your opinion? People like you seem to live in a fantasy world where men have no weakness or fragility. I am a man and I suffer emotionally all the time, so I am going to like watching characters I can relate to in that way. What you call wimpy I call realistic and interesting. Bruce Wayne has been a troubled character in every Batman movie. There's a difference between emotional and dysfunctional. Batman and other characters get increasingly dysfunctional. Plus it is still supposed to be a fantasy adventure so how much realism do you want? AA meetings?
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 9, 2020 1:43:50 GMT
Prime seems like a strong believer in the ubermensch, if you know what I mean. No but I can see how political interests have warped artistic endeavors over time. If this was some kind of normal biological phenomenon among populations then no one could read or watch media from decades ago because it would be impossible to relate to it, yet people still read Shakespeare, watch old serials.
The reputation of The Adventures of Captain Marvel has grown over time, and there's no wokeness in it (except maybe the theme of two societies being manipulated by an invisible enemy that plays both sides against the other--a timeless theme).
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 1:47:04 GMT
Is emotional depth weak in your opinion? People like you seem to live in a fantasy world where men have no weakness or fragility. I am a man and I suffer emotionally all the time, so I am going to like watching characters I can relate to in that way. What you call wimpy I call realistic and interesting. Bruce Wayne has been a troubled character in every Batman movie. Prime seems like a strong believer in the ubermensch, if you know what I mean. I am unfamiliar with the concept. I looked at the generic description on Google, but that doesn't tell me very much. "rise above conventional Christian morality to create and impose his own values" What does that even mean?
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 1:54:47 GMT
Is emotional depth weak in your opinion? People like you seem to live in a fantasy world where men have no weakness or fragility. I am a man and I suffer emotionally all the time, so I am going to like watching characters I can relate to in that way. What you call wimpy I call realistic and interesting. Bruce Wayne has been a troubled character in every Batman movie. There's a difference between emotional and dysfunctional. Batman and other characters get increasingly dysfunctional. Plus it is still supposed to be a fantasy adventure so how much realism do you want? AA meetings?
I like a good deal of character realism even in my fantasy films. AA meetings? If the character is an alcoholic and the movie is trying to be more realistic, then yes. Batman isn't James Bond and Bruce Wayne has not become more dysfunctional since 1989. He literally sits in his house with his butler and no family or life, obsessed with criminals and just waiting for the Bat signal to give meaning to his existence in Tim Burton's versions. He is a lonely fucked up individual.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 9, 2020 1:59:24 GMT
Batman has consistently been portrayed as dysfunctional for decades now. The reason he wasn’t portrayed as such back in 1939 was because superheroes back then were little more than power fantasies for kids.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 9, 2020 2:02:50 GMT
Batman has consistently been portrayed as dysfunctional for decades now. The reason he wasn’t portrayed as such back in 1939 was because superheroes back then were little more than power fantasies for kids. Thank you. Now if Prime wants to make a case for Man of Steel then I won't argue.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 9, 2020 2:06:56 GMT
The reason he wasn’t portrayed as such back in 1939 was because superheroes back then were little more than power fantasies for kids. That’s how Prime likes it.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 9, 2020 2:14:41 GMT
That's right, Batman was not always emotionally dysfunctional-up until the mid 80s he wasn't-he was more like a Zorro crossed with Sherlock Holmes (who also became more neurotic and dysfunctional but people still like the Rathbone version--go figure). The point is you can expect increasing, not decreasing neurosis and dysfunction because like kneeling at a basketball game, the wokeness never shuts off unless the creators are replaced. Has nothing to do with audience opinions or artistic freedom either.
The corporate model is not going to suddenly decide they should dial down this political propaganda.
Not going to happen because they will only hire people who share their vision.
Meanwhile people will still watch The Wild Geese and enjoy it.
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