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Post by Ransom on Oct 9, 2020 19:36:31 GMT
The Ring, Signs, Paranormal Activity and Insidious were all big hits. Also the "torture porn" genre already went out of fashion years ago while supernatural horror has made a big comeback. Horror is definitely doing much better now than it did in the 90s. What's torture porn? Do you mean like the hostel movies?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 9, 2020 19:38:35 GMT
Get Out was very popular, for good reason. I thought Hereditary slipped under the radar a bit, but apparently that made $80 million. Both feel like old school, atmospheric horror compared to the "scary face says boo" stuff we usually get.
The era of ultra violent horror died like a decade ago. That stuff still gets made, but it's not the mainstream flooding it used to be.
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Post by Reynard on Oct 9, 2020 20:01:11 GMT
The Ring, Signs, Paranormal Activity and Insidious were all big hits. Also the "torture porn" genre already went out of fashion years ago while supernatural horror has made a big comeback. Horror is definitely doing much better now than it did in the 90s. What's torture porn? Do you mean like the hostel movies? I haven't seen any Hostel movies, so can't tell about them. "Torture porn" means movies that use realistic, graphic violence, especially torturing, as their major selling pitch. Of course this kind of cinema has existed since the 70s, but the term was coined only after French 2003 movie Haute Tension (High Tension), which gained a lot of attention and became a decent hit. More French movies of similar nature soon followed. Saw I guess was the first modern US film of this kind, though if I remember correctly it wasn't until Saw III (??) that they were openly advertised with those "so violent that people fainted at the premiere" etc kind of "news". Some Eli Roth films/productions belong to the genre or at least are close to it, though his style is more darkly humorous. The genre has fallen into very low budget straight-to-blu category now that the trend has pretty much died. People just lost interest, since they tend to be very repetitive. Incident in a Ghostland from few years back gained some attention but I don't see this genre making a big comeback any time soon.
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Post by onethreetwo on Oct 9, 2020 20:30:38 GMT
What's torture porn? Do you mean like the hostel movies? I haven't seen any Hostel movies, so can't tell about them. "Torture porn" means movies that use realistic, graphic violence, especially torturing, as their major selling pitch. Of course this kind of cinema has existed since the 70s, but the term was coined only after French 2003 movie Haute Tension (High Tension), which gained a lot of attention and became a decent hit. More French movies of similar nature soon followed. Saw I guess was the first modern US film of this kind, though if I remember correctly it wasn't until Saw III (??) that they were openly advertised with those "so violent that people fainted at the premiere" etc kind of "news". Some Eli Roth films/productions belong to the genre or at least are close to it, though his style is more darkly humorous. The genre has fallen into very low budget straight-to-blu category now that the trend has pretty much died. People just lost interest, since they tend to be very repetitive. Incident in a Ghostland from few years back gained some attention but I don't see this genre making a big comeback any time soon. Yes, sadly the new wave French horror movement died a pretty quick death. Incident in a Ghostland was pretty good though. Extreme horror has definitely gone further underground in the last ten years. You can find it if you look for it, but it is all indie and lower budget now.
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Post by Reynard on Oct 9, 2020 20:50:51 GMT
I haven't seen any Hostel movies, so can't tell about them. "Torture porn" means movies that use realistic, graphic violence, especially torturing, as their major selling pitch. Of course this kind of cinema has existed since the 70s, but the term was coined only after French 2003 movie Haute Tension (High Tension), which gained a lot of attention and became a decent hit. More French movies of similar nature soon followed. Saw I guess was the first modern US film of this kind, though if I remember correctly it wasn't until Saw III (??) that they were openly advertised with those "so violent that people fainted at the premiere" etc kind of "news". Some Eli Roth films/productions belong to the genre or at least are close to it, though his style is more darkly humorous. The genre has fallen into very low budget straight-to-blu category now that the trend has pretty much died. People just lost interest, since they tend to be very repetitive. Incident in a Ghostland from few years back gained some attention but I don't see this genre making a big comeback any time soon. Yes, sadly the new wave French horror movement died a pretty quick death. Incident in a Ghostland was pretty good though. Extreme horror has definitely gone further underground in the last ten years. You can find it if you look for it, but it is all indie and lower budget now. Extreme horror seems to come and go. Before the French torture porn boom, back in mid-90s, people were into Japanese extreme horror like Evil Dead Trap, the Guinea Pig series, All Night Long and so on. Before that it was Buttgereit and some German similar underground cinema. None of these trends held peoples interest for long. I guess the audience got much smaller because a lot of people with interest towards "dark" and "extreme" things simply grow out of them, while those who are seriously dedicated probably end up with real life execution videos and such, and lose interest in fake footage. Certainly modern internet has more than enough "gore kids" to upload this kind of stuff, whether or not anyone's asking for them. No one has to buy a DVD or a Blu unless they want to, so there's much less money involved now.
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Post by jonesjxd on Oct 11, 2020 21:40:23 GMT
If we want to strictly consider mainstream to be studio pictures then I'd mention The Conjuring 1 & 2, IT 1 & 2, Halloween '18, The Invisible Man. These were all really big hits with audiences and critics and made a lot of money. Honestly though, I think it's pointless limiting mainstream to that criteria. Even though movies like It Follows, Green Room, The Witch, The Babadook were distributed by smaller labels, they still had large theatrical releases and have large fanbases.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 21:59:25 GMT
After the 40s horror was increasingly the domainof low budget independents but those companies do not exist anymore. The easiest way to make money in the 60s or 70s was to do a low budget horror film for the drive-in market. But since home video the standards got cheaper and they became more and more obscure. Then in the 90s they really took a hit because even mid-budget horror disappeared--something like BODY PARTS. Horror before Blair Witch (House on Haunted Hill remake) was very bright and video game influenced.
Then Blair Witch came along which was mostly about the $200 million that Artisan spent to promote it. The Titanic of mass-market horror. So unlike the Exorcist which was high budget and mass market--Blair Witch was small budget but still had the mass market advertising. It also did away with traditional narrative like professional acting, script, or musical scoring and editing.
Paranormal Activity was another of these mass-marketed corporate chaperoned projects int he same vein.
Blumhouse is kind of like AIP but much smaller in output and much more political. They aren't looking for the new Roger Corman unless he has a relative from Botswana in the family or was raised by transgenders in Helsinki.
People say "oh horror isn't dead-I saw a great French or Korean film."
Uh yeah, but what happened to North American homegrown horror?
When black director William Crain made Blacula for AIP there were dozens of other horror films released at the same time--but when Get Out was released--it was the only one. No competition.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 16, 2020 6:32:23 GMT
Newest movie in the OP is 1982 ... It sounds to me like the OP only likes a few movies he/she saw when young. I don't consider any movie a must-see so I'm probably going to make random suggestions.
Sleepy Hollow 1999 was a mystery/horror that was nominated for several Oscars and won Art Direction. I wouldn't consider it ultra-violent. I've watched it several times and enjoy it more each time. You need to take it as its own thing and not think about the short story.
A few other suggestions, A Quiet Place, Tremors, The Ring, The Others, Little Shop of Horror (remake), Cloverfield, Drag Me to Hell, Goosebumps, The Wolfman
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Post by Morgana on Oct 16, 2020 8:46:06 GMT
I agree with you. I keep waiting for a good horror film to come out, like the ones you mentioned but no luck. I did like The Blair Witch Project though.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 16, 2020 22:31:57 GMT
They ran out of holidays.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 22:41:52 GMT
Nothing. check out midsommar
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 16:27:17 GMT
Newest movie in the OP is 1982 ... It sounds to me like the OP only likes a few movies he/she saw when young. I don't consider any movie a must-see so I'm probably going to make random suggestions. Sleepy Hollow 1999 was a mystery/horror that was nominated for several Oscars and won Art Direction. I wouldn't consider it ultra-violent. I've watched it several times and enjoy it more each time. You need to take it as its own thing and not think about the short story. A few other suggestions, A Quiet Place, Tremors, The Ring, The Others, Little Shop of Horror (remake), Cloverfield, Drag Me to Hell, Goosebumps, The Wolfman Actually I saw most of them as an adult. All of my favorite horror movies were made before I was even born though. So nostalgia is hardly a factor. Sleepy Hollow is a gorgeous movie with great atmosphere, but it’s got kind of a mediocre script. I don’t know if I’d ever watch it again. The others that you and everyone else has mentioned just don’t appeal to me for some reason. A Quiet Place might be worth trying, I suppose.
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Post by Vits on Oct 17, 2020 16:38:33 GMT
Nothing. check out midsommar That's not really mainstream.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 17, 2020 18:16:55 GMT
Newest movie in the OP is 1982 ... It sounds to me like the OP only likes a few movies he/she saw when young. I don't consider any movie a must-see so I'm probably going to make random suggestions. Sleepy Hollow 1999 was a mystery/horror that was nominated for several Oscars and won Art Direction. I wouldn't consider it ultra-violent. I've watched it several times and enjoy it more each time. You need to take it as its own thing and not think about the short story. A few other suggestions, A Quiet Place, Tremors, The Ring, The Others, Little Shop of Horror (remake), Cloverfield, Drag Me to Hell, Goosebumps, The Wolfman Actually I saw most of them as an adult. All of my favorite horror movies were made before I was even born though. So nostalgia is hardly a factor. Sleepy Hollow is a gorgeous movie with great atmosphere, but it’s got kind of a mediocre script. I don’t know if I’d ever watch it again. The others that you and everyone else has mentioned just don’t appeal to me for some reason. A Quiet Place might be worth trying, I suppose.
Sounds like you have specific tastes, if you can narrow it down then you might find more things you enjoy. My wife only likes horror comedies like Shaun of the Dead or Zombieland. My closest friend only likes creepy horror, ghosts or classic monsters like Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman, etc.; no gore or extreme situations.
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