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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 3, 2020 20:42:05 GMT
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Post by SportsFan19 on Nov 3, 2020 22:47:27 GMT
Exactly - Smart/Brown plus three 1st round picks can net a stud
Define stud. What player is going to bring everything those two guys brought and not infringe on the superstar trajectory of Tatum? I think you have to move Kemba. He's at best their third best player, he's injury prone and he was virtually useless in the playoffs. Brown and Smart do more than just score the ball, getting rid of them for another volume shooter doesn't make a ton of sense, even in today's NBA. They could just draft one of those. I want to know who you think they could get in return for that package, and why it would make sense for both sides. Well, it certainly wouldn't be enough for Ben Simmons.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 12:49:48 GMT
For those who don't know who 'Shams Charania' is
He's a well respected NBA Insider along the lines of Woj
Shams dropped a bombshell -
'I'm told Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and pursue James Harden'
Morey made it clear during his presser on Monday that this was Joel's team
My fear is they dangle Simmons for Harden.
James Harden is 31. Ben is 24.
Bringing James in at this stage of his career will only result in 2 titles or so.
If Morey is the wizard I think he is - he'll manage to deal for The Beard without parting with Ben
Ben Harden = Dynasty Joel
It's been a fascinating offseason thus far here folks - and it just keeps getting juicier for us.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 12:54:48 GMT
For those who don't know who 'Shams Charania' is He's a well respected NBA Insider along the lines of Woj Shams dropped a bombshell - 'I'm told Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and pursue James Harden' Morey made it clear during his presser on Monday that this was Joel's team My fear is they dangle Simmons for Harden. James Harden is 31. Ben is 24. Bringing James in at this stage of his career will only result in 2 titles or so. If Morey is the wizard I think he is - he'll manage to deal for The Beard without parting with Ben Ben Harden = Dynasty Joel It's been a fascinating offseason thus far here folks - and it just keeps getting juicier for us. Houston has no interest, but it's great that you think they could get Harden and not have to give up anything substantial in return.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 13:01:26 GMT
For those who don't know who 'Shams Charania' is He's a well respected NBA Insider along the lines of Woj Shams dropped a bombshell - 'I'm told Philadelphia is expected to be interested in and pursue James Harden' Morey made it clear during his presser on Monday that this was Joel's team My fear is they dangle Simmons for Harden. James Harden is 31. Ben is 24. Bringing James in at this stage of his career will only result in 2 titles or so. If Morey is the wizard I think he is - he'll manage to deal for The Beard without parting with Ben Ben Harden = Dynasty Joel It's been a fascinating offseason thus far here folks - and it just keeps getting juicier for us. Houston has no interest, but it's great that you think they could get Harden and not have to give up anything substantial in return. 5 First Round Picks, Harris/Horford/'Tisse/JRich/Zhaire/boatload of 2nds/cash considerations is pretty substantial
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 13:03:20 GMT
Houston has no interest, but it's great that you think they could get Harden and not have to give up anything substantial in return. 5 First Round Picks, Harris/Horford/'Tisse/JRich/Zhaire/boatload of 2nds/cash considerations is pretty substantial
I'm sure that's exactly how the trade will go down.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 13:06:30 GMT
5 First Round Picks, Harris/Horford/'Tisse/JRich/Zhaire/boatload of 2nds/cash considerations is pretty substantial
I'm sure that's exactly how the trade will go down. It very well could
OKC got 5 first round picks from the Clippers for PG-13
I think this deal just may be in play - both teams mix and match slop to make salaries work
I'd mortgage our future for Ben, Harden, Joel - that's like 5 guaranteed Chips in a row.
If there's one man that could pull it off - it's Daryl Morey
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 13:12:00 GMT
I'm sure that's exactly how the trade will go down. It very well could
OKC got 5 first round picks from the Clippers for PG-13
I think this deal just may be in play - both teams mix and match slop to make salaries work
I'd mortgage our future for Ben, Harden, Joel - that's like 5 guaranteed Chips in a row.
If there's one man that could pull it off - it's Daryl Morey
Hard to argue with his history of building championship teams.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 13:18:45 GMT
It very well could
OKC got 5 first round picks from the Clippers for PG-13
I think this deal just may be in play - both teams mix and match slop to make salaries work
I'd mortgage our future for Ben, Harden, Joel - that's like 5 guaranteed Chips in a row.
If there's one man that could pull it off - it's Daryl Morey
Hard to argue with his history of building championship teams. That's not fair to Daryl at all
Rockets had to play in a loaded West - facing teams like the Thunder, Warriors and more recently the Clips and Lakers
He pulls this off - nobody in the East will be able to compete with the Sixers for almost a decade
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 13:45:24 GMT
Hard to argue with his history of building championship teams. That's not fair to Daryl at all
Rockets had to play in a loaded West - facing teams like the Thunder, Warriors and more recently the Clips and Lakers
He pulls this off - nobody in the East will be able to compete with the Sixers for almost a decade
My mistake, I thought the eastern conference champion still had to play the western conference champion.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 13:53:42 GMT
That's not fair to Daryl at all
Rockets had to play in a loaded West - facing teams like the Thunder, Warriors and more recently the Clips and Lakers
He pulls this off - nobody in the East will be able to compete with the Sixers for almost a decade
My mistake, I thought the eastern conference champion still had to play the western conference champion. Nobody in the West would be able to compete with Harden/Ben/Joel
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 4, 2020 14:10:40 GMT
I admittedly don’t follow the NBA as closely as other sports but am I missing something about Harden? He’s not a free-agent is he? He would have to be acquired in a trade, right? All this talk of “pursuing” James Harden is just talk, and what makes anyone think Houston would entertain any notion of a trade not involving Simmons or Embiid? The whole thing is laughable, coupled with the fact that Harden hasn’t won shit either.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 14:14:35 GMT
I admittedly don’t follow the NBA as closely as other sports but am I missing something about Harden? He’s not a free-agent is he? He would have to be acquired in a trade, right? All this talk of “pursuing” James Harden is just talk, and what makes anyone think Houston would entertain any notion of a trade not involving Simmons or Embiid? The whole thing is laughable, coupled with the fact that Harden hasn’t won shit either. Houston has already said they have no interest in trading Harden.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 4, 2020 14:15:55 GMT
My mistake, I thought the eastern conference champion still had to play the western conference champion. Nobody in the West would be able to compete with Harden/Ben/Joel
If you're Houston, do you like your chances in the difficult west with Harden, or with two guys who can't stay healthy and can't even make it to an ECF?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 4, 2020 14:31:10 GMT
Nobody in the West would be able to compete with Harden/Ben/Joel
If you're Houston, do you like your chances in the difficult west with Harden, or with two guys who can't stay healthy and can't even make it to an ECF? In the Imagination Land that Frogs resides in, he’ll take choice #2.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 14:32:08 GMT
I admittedly don’t follow the NBA as closely as other sports but am I missing something about Harden? He’s not a free-agent is he? He would have to be acquired in a trade, right? All this talk of “pursuing” James Harden is just talk, and what makes anyone think Houston would entertain any notion of a trade not involving Simmons or Embiid? The whole thing is laughable, coupled with the fact that Harden hasn’t won shit either. Houston has already said they have no interest in trading Harden. Of course they're stating that
It's all positioning to get the most they can get for him
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 14:34:07 GMT
Nobody in the West would be able to compete with Harden/Ben/Joel
If you're Houston, do you like your chances in the difficult west with Harden, or with two guys who can't stay healthy and can't even make it to an ECF? Perhaps you missed my trade offer
They aren't getting Ben or Joel - they're getting 5 1st Round picks and everything else on the team.
Both teams will mix and match slop to make salaries work
They'd obviously be in rebuild mode
With just Harden - they aren't going anywhere in a Western Conference that features the Lakers/Clippers and now a returning Steph/Klay with the Warriors back to being Elite
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 4, 2020 14:49:55 GMT
If you're Houston, do you like your chances in the difficult west with Harden, or with two guys who can't stay healthy and can't even make it to an ECF? Perhaps you missed my trade offer
They aren't getting Ben or Joel - they're getting 5 1st Round picks and everything else on the team.
Both teams will mix and match slop to make salaries work
They'd obviously be in rebuild mode
With just Harden - they aren't going anywhere in a Western Conference that features the Lakers/Clippers and now a returning Steph/Klay with the Warriors back to being Elite
“Hi, Houston? Would you be interested in 5 worthless draft picks and all the players from our team that aren’t all that good?”
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 4, 2020 14:51:44 GMT
Perhaps you missed my trade offer
They aren't getting Ben or Joel - they're getting 5 1st Round picks and everything else on the team.
Both teams will mix and match slop to make salaries work
They'd obviously be in rebuild mode
With just Harden - they aren't going anywhere in a Western Conference that features the Lakers/Clippers and now a returning Steph/Klay with the Warriors back to being Elite
“Hi, Houston? Would you be interested in 5 worthless draft picks and all the players from our team that aren’t all that good?” Please see Oklahoma City and the Paul George deal.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 4, 2020 14:58:12 GMT
“Hi, Houston? Would you be interested in 5 worthless draft picks and all the players from our team that aren’t all that good?” Please see Oklahoma City and the Paul George deal.
What about it? I didn’t see OKC winning anything.
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