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Post by janntosh on Oct 18, 2020 17:03:27 GMT
unlike The Exorcist, which is cheesy, dated, and awkward, The Shining lives up to the hype. The build up of dread and atmosphere, and the explosive climax. It is all great. Of course I have some questions
1. So Danny and Halloran's powers had nothing to do with the hotel? So people with supernatural powers of all people manage to end up in a supernatural hotel? LOL
2. So the ending picture is supposed to be the hotels victims? Though some say it is meant to be proof that Torrance is a reincarnated form of another guy
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Post by ck100 on Oct 18, 2020 17:09:10 GMT
I've always just looked at the picture as Jack just joining up with the ghosts. No "reincarnation" or anything like that. He's a part of the place now.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Oct 18, 2020 17:57:45 GMT
unlike The Exorcist, which is cheesy, dated, and awkward, The Shining lives up to the hype. The build up of dread and atmosphere, and the explosive climax. It is all great. Of course I have some questions 1. So Danny and Halloran's powers had nothing to do with the hotel? So people with supernatural powers of all people manage to end up in a supernatural hotel? LOL 2. So the ending picture is supposed to be the hotels victims? Though some say it is meant to be proof that Torrance is a reincarnated form of another guy 3. The ending picture has to do with the name of the hotel in the film. See, the name of the hotel was changed from what it was in the book. as u may or may not know already. it also has to do with the opening shot in the film.
And number 1. The danny and halloran's shining powers have to do with what the hotel itself represents. Which is what it the whole thing is about.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Oct 18, 2020 18:01:35 GMT
I've always just looked at the picture as Jack just joining up with the ghosts. No "reincarnation" or anything like that. He's a part of the place now. What does it mean when Jack is told he’s always been the caretaker? He even mentions something similar when Wendy brings him breakfast in bed. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 18, 2020 19:36:38 GMT
1. Everyone has a little bit of "shine". Call it ESP, Deja Vu, 6th Sense, whatever. Even Jack and Wendy has a little. Does the Hotel draw those with beaucoup shine, like Danny or Halloran, possibly. In Doctor Sleep, the "True Knot" has a lot of shine and the have a campground near the Overlook. But many people with it don't go anywhere near the Hotel. And many people stay there who have little shine.
2. Who knows? In the end, the hotel does take in some people, Grady for example. But Jack as a band leader... Always thought the ending of The Shining was like the ending of 2001 or Eyes Wide Shit. Kubrick lets the viewer decide. Kubrick filmed another ending that was cut. Ullman visit Wendy in the hospital and Danny is out in the hall playing. Ullman tells Wendy that Jack's body was never found anywhere. He leaves and walks by Dan. On the floor, a ball rolls up to Danny, like the one from 237. Dan looks up and sees Ullman smiling at him. How's that for weird?
To be honest, the movie, while creepy and well done, was a muddy mess. Jack goes nuts overnight and seemingly for no reason. In the book, it's Jack's alcohol withdrawal, memories of his abusive father, and a scrapbook that opens up the history of he Overlook (you can see it beside Jack's typewriter). Yeah, it would have been a six hour movie if Kubrick had done that. Much of the horror from the book, the fire hose and he topiary animals that come to life were unfilmable then (no CGI) so Kubrick had to do different, The Grady Girls.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2020 19:56:54 GMT
1. So Danny and Halloran's powers had nothing to do with the hotel? So people with supernatural powers of all people manage to end up in a supernatural hotel? LOL 2. So the ending picture is supposed to be the hotels victims? Though some say it is meant to be proof that Torrance is a reincarnated form of another guy The movie imples that there are many people who "shine" and that 2 of them happen to be at this hotel at the same time, but it also feels like the hotel draws people who "shine" to it. The Shining is a somewhat ambiguous movie and the ending is purposefully confusing. There are a few things that can fit all at the same time such as that now Jack is part of the hotel forever, that he was always a part of the hotel and that the movie has a lot to do with his alcoholism and 1921 was shortly after prohibition. Also takes place at a 4th of July party and I am sure there are many people who have went crazy trying to figure out if that has meaning as well. I recommend the documentary Room 237 for the crazier theories like Stankly Kubrick admitting to faking the moon landing within the film and silly stuff like that.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 18, 2020 20:26:20 GMT
1. Danny and Dicky's powers allowed them to see the ghosts when others couldn't. But because Danny's shine was so strong, it empowered the ghosts (who otherwise were like "pictures in a book") and enabled them to slowly reveal themselves to Jack and Wendy and even get physical (choking Danny, unlocking the pantry).
2. I'd say it's left open to interpretation, but I do buy into the theory that Jack is a reincarnation who's probably been reincarnated and drawn back to the hotel multiple times since it was built.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 18, 2020 20:33:52 GMT
1. Danny and Dicky's powers allowed them to see the ghosts when others couldn't. But because Danny's shine was so strong, it empowered the ghosts (who otherwise were like "pictures in a book") and enabled them to slowly reveal themselves to Jack and Wendy and even get physical (choking Danny, unlocking the pantry). I actually never made that connection. That Danny's shine is so strong that as the danger becomes more prevalent that his shine becomes stronger and during the last act it is on overdrive.
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