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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 21:35:56 GMT
If the Illuminati are after Herald, what better way than via a devout catholic belly dancer who is some kind of doctor. I 👃 🍯
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 21:40:02 GMT
How much do you interact with live human beings...not online...on a weekly basis? Average. Why? Define average.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 20, 2020 21:43:31 GMT
No, you define average. I retired a little over a month ago, but I still have to drive into town for supplies, as I did today. I went to three stores and I interacted with people (not online). What is your point?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 21:45:26 GMT
Yes, that is an hilarious concept of "religion." Atheists should thank "Christians" for giving them so many reasons to be atheists since without Christians there would be none. ^ ^ not remotely true. You flatter yourselves. LOL Well most of these guys lift their righteous condemnations straight out of the Bible. God is forever smiting the unbeliever and raining hell upon them. So I don’t why Ar is confused about this being a hilarious concept. Do these ardent theists and defenders of Christianity, God, and Jesus actually read their Bibles?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 20, 2020 21:46:55 GMT
^ ^ not remotely true. You flatter yourselves. LOL Well most of these guys lift their righteous condemnations straight out of the Bible. God is forever smiting the unbeliever and raining hell upon them. So I don’t why Ar is confused about this being a hilarious concept. Do these ardent theists and defenders of Christianity, God, and Jesus actually read their Bibles? Why don't you go discuss it on your own atheism board if you don't like the company here?
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Post by goz on Oct 20, 2020 21:57:46 GMT
It is as far as responding to them on this board. Why? Because they’re not here. Duh. You guys want me to condemn Muslims which I have done many times but you’ve never read obviously. ALL RELIGIONS are fucked up in some way. They can be a beautiful thing but they can be smallpox of the mind also. I am an atheist, but I don’t have a problem with God or even Jesus. I understand and appreciate the mystical human mind and the yearnings of these folks who create their spiritual faiths. I do have a problem with the people who use their religion to destroy liberty and oppress others. It’s the Christians who still think Trump is doing God’s work and approve of the evil he is doing that disgusts me. I'm a Christian and I DEFINITELY DO NOT think Trump is doing God's work. Your turn. Would you mind telling the others? There's a good fellow. Thanks in advance...oh wait...aren't they in your 'one of us' religious people category who you want to take over the board against discussions you don't like? Got it. They would be welcome here with their evil tomfoolery and yet sensible secular atheist people with humanist moral values are not because............?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 20, 2020 21:59:25 GMT
I'm a Christian and I DEFINITELY DO NOT think Trump is doing God's work. Your turn. Would you mind telling the others? There's a good fellow. Thanks in advance...oh wait...aren't they in your 'one of us' religious people category who you want to take over the board against discussions you don't like? Hot it. They would be welcome here with their evil tomfoolery and yet sensible secular atheist people with humanist moral values are not because............? It was PaulsLaugh's turn.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 22:03:23 GMT
No, you define average. I retired a little over a month ago, but I still have to drive into town for supplies, as I did today. I went to three stores and I interacted with people (not online). What is your point? Because I’ve suspected you’re basically like a recluse who thinks the government and a myriad sinister others are out to get him. In other words, someone with a lot of social, psychological, and anger issues. He’s probably been put through the ringer by the system at some point. Been cheated on. Maybe lost a loved one. Perhaps he had an overly bearing parent who drummed religious doctrine into him and he rejected most, but not all of it, so he’s quasi-Christian with some unorthodox attachments like belief in ancient aliens, extraterrestrials, or massive centuries old conspiracies whose only goal is to bring on Hell. He thinks Satan is an actual being from some dimension of evil that science is either inadvertently or on purpose opening the gates to this Hell dimension with their ungodly science. He got into conspiracy theories via studying the JFK assassination. Other sinister plots unfolded from there. If they will kill the POTUS, they will do anything. There’s no end to their evil. With the birth of the internet helped him make since of this demon haunted world as he found many online who agreed with him and enforced his beliefs with new, more exciting information. Overtime, he became locked into his information comfort zone and distrustful of anything that threatens his security of knowing the Future and finally getting something right.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 20, 2020 22:09:01 GMT
No, you define average. I retired a little over a month ago, but I still have to drive into town for supplies, as I did today. I went to three stores and I interacted with people (not online). What is your point? Because I’ve suspected you’re basically like a recluse who thinks the government and a myriad sinister others are out to get him. In other words, someone with a lot of social, psychological, and anger issues. He’s probably been put through the ringer by the system at some point. Been cheated on. Maybe lost a loved one. Perhaps he had an overly bearing parent who drummed religious doctrine into him and he rejected most, but not all of it, so he’s quasi-Christian with some unorthodox attachments like belief in ancient aliens, extraterrestrials, or massive centuries old conspiracies whose only goal is to bring on Hell. He thinks Satan is an actual being from some dimension of evil that science is either inadvertently or on purpose opening the gates to this Hell dimension with their ungodly science. He got into conspiracy theories via studying the JFK assassination. Other sinister plots unfolded from there. If they will kill the POTUS, they will do anything. There’s no end to their evil. With the birth of the internet helped him make since of this demon haunted world as he found many online who agreed with him and enforced his beliefs with new, more exciting information. Overtime, he became locked into his information comfort zone and distrustful of anything that threatens his security of knowing the Future and finally getting something right. Yes, that is certainly the way you'd like to stereotype me, but you're wrong. Look at how many times you did the "Trump supporters like you" bit before I finally made you stop it. You'll push the "recluse with anger issues" as much as you can. It's to be expected. Good luck with that.
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Post by goz on Oct 20, 2020 22:15:49 GMT
I thought it was dentist?
(amongst a multitude of other claims over the years LOL)
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 22:23:29 GMT
Because I’ve suspected you’re basically like a recluse who thinks the government and a myriad sinister others are out to get him. In other words, someone with a lot of social, psychological, and anger issues. He’s probably been put through the ringer by the system at some point. Been cheated on. Maybe lost a loved one. Perhaps he had an overly bearing parent who drummed religious doctrine into him and he rejected most, but not all of it, so he’s quasi-Christian with some unorthodox attachments like belief in ancient aliens, extraterrestrials, or massive centuries old conspiracies whose only goal is to bring on Hell. He thinks Satan is an actual being from some dimension of evil that science is either inadvertently or on purpose opening the gates to this Hell dimension with their ungodly science. He got into conspiracy theories via studying the JFK assassination. Other sinister plots unfolded from there. If they will kill the POTUS, they will do anything. There’s no end to their evil. With the birth of the internet helped him make since of this demon haunted world as he found many online who agreed with him and enforced his beliefs with new, more exciting information. Overtime, he became locked into his information comfort zone and distrustful of anything that threatens his security of knowing the Future and finally getting something right. Yes, that is certainly the way you'd like to stereotype me, but you're wrong. Look at how many times you did the "Trump supporters like you" bit before I finally made you stop it. You'll push the "recluse with anger issues" as much as you can. It's to be expected. Good luck with that. As far as I’m concerned, you are a Trump supporter because of the way you feel about your country and level ignorance you seem to be proud. You won’t vote for him, but then you won’t vote for anybody. That’s involvement in government. But you do like the chaos of our current events. You like that our environment is disintegrating and social fabric decaying. Trump is a means to an end even if you hate him. (I’ve never seen any threads of yours expressing dislike of Trump policies and the Far Right religious revival, by the way.) Frankly, I think you want everything burnt to the ground in hopes of something better arising from the ashes. That said, I think much of your thinking is beyond your control and you are somewhat unaware of the desultory nihilism you’ve embraced. Therefore, I’ve developed a soft spot for you.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 20, 2020 22:29:26 GMT
Yes, that is certainly the way you'd like to stereotype me, but you're wrong. Look at how many times you did the "Trump supporters like you" bit before I finally made you stop it. You'll push the "recluse with anger issues" as much as you can. It's to be expected. Good luck with that. As far as I’m concerned, you are a Trump supporter because of the way you feel about your country and level ignorance you seem to be proud. You won’t vote for him, but then you won’t vote for anybody. That’s involvement in government. But you do like the chaos of our current events. You like that our environment is disintegrating and social fabric decaying. Trump is a means to an end even if you hate him. (I’ve never seen any threads of yours expressing dislike of Trump policies and the Far Right religious revival, by the way.) Frankly, I think you want everything burnt to the ground in hopes of something better arising from the ashes. That said, I think much of your thinking is beyond your control and you are somewhat unaware of the desultory nihilism you’ve embraced. Therefore, I’ve developed a soft spot for you. And as far as you're concerned is just that; as far as you're concerned. It has no bearing otherwise.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 22:38:55 GMT
As far as I’m concerned, you are a Trump supporter because of the way you feel about your country and level ignorance you seem to be proud. You won’t vote for him, but then you won’t vote for anybody. That’s involvement in government. But you do like the chaos of our current events. You like that our environment is disintegrating and social fabric decaying. Trump is a means to an end even if you hate him. (I’ve never seen any threads of yours expressing dislike of Trump policies and the Far Right religious revival, by the way.) Frankly, I think you want everything burnt to the ground in hopes of something better arising from the ashes. That said, I think much of your thinking is beyond your control and you are somewhat unaware of the desultory nihilism you’ve embraced. Therefore, I’ve developed a soft spot for you. And as far as you're concerned is just that; as far as you're concerned. It has no bearing otherwise. It doesn’t change my opinion of you. I tell like it is. People say they want honesty...but they really don’t. Humans want lies and flattery. You know the truth about yourself, so my opinion should not matter to you.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 20, 2020 22:49:26 GMT
What is an atheist really? The term has seemed like a loaded one to me for some time. Perhaps because the whole atheism thing/movement/thing was an inevitable part of Judeo-Christianity, much the same way communism is only a thing inasmuch as it was, per Marx at least, a natural progression of capitalism. No one would ever think to label a tribe of native Americans as communists because even though many of them fit the bill, capitalism hadn't happened yet so it would be nonsensical to call them that.
Also take any atheist today, and they still have some type of spiritual belief, don't they? Even your run of the mill secular humanist or naturalist buys into all sorts of unproven assumptions in the name of science, don't they?
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Post by Isapop on Oct 20, 2020 22:52:10 GMT
That said, I think much of your thinking is beyond your control and you are somewhat unaware of the desultory nihilism you’ve embraced. Therefore, I’ve developed a soft spot for you. For me it was his sense of humor.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Oct 20, 2020 22:53:38 GMT
That said, I think much of your thinking is beyond your control and you are somewhat unaware of the desultory nihilism you’ve embraced. Therefore, I’ve developed a soft spot for you. For me it was his sense of humor. He’s a good sport.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Oct 21, 2020 15:15:40 GMT
Even your run of the mill secular humanist or naturalist buys into all sorts of unproven assumptions in the name of science, don't they? This implies that all beliefs are equally reasonable or rational, which they are not.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 21, 2020 15:28:08 GMT
Even your run of the mill secular humanist or naturalist buys into all sorts of unproven assumptions in the name of science, don't they? This implies that all beliefs are equally reasonable or rational, which they are not. I definitely didn't mean to imply that, as it's not a debate worth getting into. You have to admit though, there do appear to be some pretty major assumptions in the typical atheist worldview that was developed in the late 19th century.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Oct 21, 2020 15:35:10 GMT
This implies that all beliefs are equally reasonable or rational, which they are not. I definitely didn't mean to imply that, as it's not a debate worth getting into. You have to admit though, there do appear to be some pretty major assumptions in the typical atheist worldview that was developed in the late 19th century. As an atheist myself I am not sure what the designated 'worldview' is or ought to be, to be honest. It is enough to lack a belief in God, or then to go on and assert that one does not exist, to be considered an atheist (the latter being admittedly an assumption, or belief by definition, since such a thing cannot be known for sure). If you mean Darwinism, one of the biggest paradigm-shifts in science of the time, then one can be (and many are) a believer all the while accepting the processes of evolution. The exception of course would be those who think that man really was 'created in God's image', when evolution would have it we are more rather descended, with other creatures, from a common ancestor.
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 21, 2020 16:02:00 GMT
I definitely didn't mean to imply that, as it's not a debate worth getting into. You have to admit though, there do appear to be some pretty major assumptions in the typical atheist worldview that was developed in the late 19th century. As an atheist myself I am not sure what the designated 'worldview' is or ought to be, to be honest. It is enough to lack a belief in God, or then to go on and assert that one does not exist, to be considered an atheist (the latter being admittedly an assumption, or belief by definition, since such a thing cannot be known for sure). If you mean Darwinism, one of the biggest paradigm-shifts in science of the time, then one can be (and many are) a believer all the while accepting the processes of evolution. The exception of course would be those who think that man really was 'created in God's image', when evolution would have it we are more rather descended, with other creatures, from a common ancestor. I'm talking more about how science itself can quickly turn into something like a religion if you're not careful. The default view of a lot of pro-science folks is and has been for over a century that the universe is this desolate mechanical place, and anything different from that needs to be proven or it's quickly tossed out. Science is great for some things but it has some pretty big limitations, one of which is that it doesn't really tell you anything about what is, just what's probably going to happen in the future. This is admittedly handy but one should be very careful not to let any metaphysical conclusions that might inadvertently stem from this slip into their worldview.
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