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Post by Aj_June on Oct 20, 2020 16:47:06 GMT
When you didn't expect that club (not necessarily your favourite club) to win at all but that club won the league/championship that year.
I think Leicester City's (2015–16) EPL win was totally unexpected before the start of the season. I actually lived in Leicester in 2012 and 2013 and I didn't even consider Leicester a football city. I used to think of it as rugby city because I lived within 5 minutes walk of Leicester Tiger's home and rugby was a big big thing over there.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 20, 2020 16:51:48 GMT
Leicester obviously.
2017 Eagles especially after Wentz went down.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2020 3:20:28 GMT
Leicester obviously. 2017 Eagles especially after Wentz went down. I only followed the seahawks games that season and still didn't understand a lot about NFL. But now I do see it quite a bit of surprise that Eagles won given that both Wentz and Foles are at the best average QBs. And Eagles overall side might have been good but not great. Based on my past research on the topic after Leicester had won, I had found that Kaiserslautern won the Bundesliga in 1997-98 straight after getting promoted from second division. Had it been in EPL more would have been known about it. Even the one other Bundesliga victory for Kaiserslautern may have been a big surprise because they had finished no.12 previous to that year.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Oct 21, 2020 3:29:33 GMT
2007 Giants shocked me - that team wasn’t even that good, they just got hot at the right time in the playoffs, and them defeating the undefeated Pats team in the Super Bowl was stunning.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 21, 2020 3:37:52 GMT
1969 Mets historically. Not a fluke, they won 100 games. But the Orioles should have beat them easily. Mets had good pitching, so did Baltimore. And lineup wise, the Mets were inferior at every position. Ed Kranepool v. Boog Powell? Dave Johnson v. Ken Boswell? I had a history professor in college who said everything in history can be explained rationally except the 1969 Mets
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Post by Rufus-T on Oct 21, 2020 3:41:51 GMT
At the time, the 1995 NJ Devils sweeping the huge favorite Red Wings was more than shocking. Looking back, it was not that surprising since they almost got there the year before, and they won a couple more a few years later.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 21, 2020 15:50:40 GMT
For me it was the Patriots in 2001. As a Pats fan, I'd seen them get blown out in two previous Super Bowls in my lifetime. As a Boston sports fan, nothing good had happened since the 1986 Celtics. You just kind of expected the worst at that point. They were going up against the defending champion 'Greatest Show On Turf' with a bunch of nobodies led by a backup second year QB. The Rams were favored by 14 points! It's still the craziest Super Bowl party I've ever been to.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 21, 2020 16:11:39 GMT
The 1999 St Louis Rams had gone 4-12 the previous year and then lost their starting QB in the preseason.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 21, 2020 16:15:00 GMT
The St Louis Blues were last place in the NHL on Jan 3 2019 before winning the Stanley Cup six months later.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 21, 2020 16:22:01 GMT
For me it was the Patriots every single time they won - I’m surprised when they win a preseason game with their joke of a head coach, let alone a championship. Surely you meant this, isn’t that right Rey lol? |
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Post by Rufus-T on Oct 21, 2020 16:24:15 GMT
1969 Mets historically. Not a fluke, they won 100 games. But the Orioles should have beat them easily. Mets had good pitching, so did Baltimore. And lineup wise, the Mets were inferior at every position. Ed Kranepool v. Boog Powell? Dave Johnson v. Ken Boswell? I had a history professor in college who said everything in history can be explained rationally except the 1969 Mets That year, Jets beat the Colts in Superbowl III. Two huge underdog NY teams beat two huge favorite Baltimore team. Who knew that these two teams would bring their fans as much pain as a colonoscopy preparation in the next 50 years.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 21, 2020 16:37:31 GMT
For me it was the Patriots every single time they won - I’m surprised when they win a preseason game with their joke of a head coach, let alone a championship. Surely you meant this, isn’t that right Rey lol? Article says Belichick is doing his best coaching this year. I'd say Sunday against the Broncos proved that.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 21, 2020 16:50:57 GMT
Leicester obviously. 2017 Eagles especially after Wentz went down. I only followed the seahawks games that season and still didn't understand a lot about NFL. But now I do see it quite a bit of surprise that Eagles won given that both Wentz and Foles are at the best average QBs. And Eagles overall side might have been good but not great. Based on my past research on the topic after Leicester had won, I had found that Kaiserslautern won the Bundesliga in 1997-98 straight after getting promoted from second division. Had it been in EPL more would have been known about it. Even the one other Bundesliga victory for Kaiserslautern may have been a big surprise because they had finished no.12 previous to that year. Nottingham Forest did that in 1977/78 ... and then won the European Cup in 1979 (and 1980) The Clough effect!
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 21, 2020 17:21:47 GMT
Leicester is the answer.
In AFL probably the Western Bulldogs in 2016 (a 7 seed) and Adelaide Crows (a 5 seed) in 1998. In Rugby League probably Newcastle in 1997 and 2001 (a 3 seed both years but appeared completely outmatched in the Grand Final) and Canterbury in 1995 (a 6 seed playing a Manly team who'd lost one game all season).
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2020 17:22:09 GMT
I only followed the seahawks games that season and still didn't understand a lot about NFL. But now I do see it quite a bit of surprise that Eagles won given that both Wentz and Foles are at the best average QBs. And Eagles overall side might have been good but not great. Based on my past research on the topic after Leicester had won, I had found that Kaiserslautern won the Bundesliga in 1997-98 straight after getting promoted from second division. Had it been in EPL more would have been known about it. Even the one other Bundesliga victory for Kaiserslautern may have been a big surprise because they had finished no.12 previous to that year. Nottingham Forest did that in 1977/78 ... and then won the European Cup in 1979 (and 1980) The Clough effect! I wish Forest returns to the top flight. I don't like teams like Burnley, Fulham etc.. Especially not that WBA.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Oct 21, 2020 17:24:03 GMT
Nottingham Forest did that in 1977/78 ... and then won the European Cup in 1979 (and 1980) The Clough effect! I wish Forest returns to the top flight. I don't like teams like Burnley, Fulham etc.. Especially not that WBA. Aye. They’re not very special now though, alas.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2020 17:25:29 GMT
Leicester is the answer. In AFL probably the Western Bulldogs in 2016 (a 7 seed) and Adelaide Crows (a 5 seed) in 1998. In Rugby League probably Newcastle in 1997 and 2001 (a 3 seed both years but appeared completely outmatched in the Grand Final) and Canterbury in 1995 (a 6 seed playing a Manly team who'd lost one game all season). In cricket I guess SL winning the WC 1996. I remember as a kid I used to think SL is just a better minnow. Even if they believed in themselves I certainly didn't.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 21, 2020 17:44:00 GMT
Leicester is the answer. In AFL probably the Western Bulldogs in 2016 (a 7 seed) and Adelaide Crows (a 5 seed) in 1998. In Rugby League probably Newcastle in 1997 and 2001 (a 3 seed both years but appeared completely outmatched in the Grand Final) and Canterbury in 1995 (a 6 seed playing a Manly team who'd lost one game all season). In cricket I guess SL winning the WC 1996. I remember as a kid I used to think SL is just a better minnow. Even if they believed in themselves I certainly didn't. There's been an asenine tendency in recent years to try and downplay how big an upset 1996 was. Sri Lanka won 6 games in that tournament, which is more than they had won in the previous 5 World Cups combined. Even with two forfeits they were not expected to win their group. They were expected to lose easily to India and finish behind them and Australia. A semi final berth was considered the absolute ceiling for Sri Lanka. They were underdogs in the SF even though they had already beaten India (in very different circumstances to those in which India beat the West Indies in 1983 tournament). And were massive underdogs in the final against Australia. Those are the facts, not hindsight opinion. Then 1983 where an Indian team who had one of the all time top 5 innings by Kapil Dev to thank for inching past Zimbabwe to even make it to the semi finals. This wasn't a major upset either because, way back at the start of the tournament, in the first game either team had played, India narrowly defeated the West Indies. West Indies then proceeded to destroy everyone they met, including India, in their next 6 games, while India went 2-3. They were not expected to beat England in their semi final and nobody, and I mean nobody outside the Indian team, thought that the result of game one would have any relevance to the result of the final. But nope, once again history was rewritten in hindsight, and this was not a monumental upset but something we should have seen coming. Bullshit. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 21, 2020 17:47:38 GMT
1 Leicester winning the Premier league in 2015-16
2 Kaiserslautern winning the Bundesliga in 1997–98
3 Hellas Verona winning Serie A in 1984-85
4 Montpellier winning Ligue 1 in 2011-12
5 Boavista winning Primeira Liga in 2000-01
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 21, 2020 23:01:38 GMT
For me it was the Patriots in 2001. As a Pats fan, I'd seen them get blown out in two previous Super Bowls in my lifetime. As a Boston sports fan, nothing good had happened since the 1986 Celtics. You just kind of expected the worst at that point. They were going up against the defending champion 'Greatest Show On Turf' with a bunch of nobodies led by a backup second year QB. The Rams were favored by 14 points! It's still the craziest Super Bowl party I've ever been to. Yeah, they were crushed by the '85 Bears, & rightly so, & then defeated the fluky Jaguars to enable Brett Favre & Reggie White's title. Facing defending champs Greatest Show on Turf, in the f'n Superdome no less... was realistically in the cards to feel like they'd lost already. I remember having to work later that evening, + my chicken wings order was delayed for pickup, & I missed Ty Law's pick-6. Snowing here. Not that I remember these things. That game still seems quite a sea change. Madden & Summerall. Astroturf. It's still Leicester City for me too though. That's nearly fully against the proper space-time continuum.
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