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Post by Morgana on Nov 3, 2020 7:40:57 GMT
I think the reason is that Bundy was handsome, charismatic, charming, and intelligent. He is seen as being the antithesis of what most people would consider a serial killer to be. He probably could have had almost any woman he wanted, he could have had a good career. To me, that seems why a lot of people seem to be fascinated by him. I never found him particularly good looking, but I guess he could be considered the boy next door type. Whatever his psychology is comprised off, it may have been more beneficial to keep him alive for psychological research purposes.
Neither Gacy or Dahmer were that dog ugly either. Bundy was the "normal" one sexuality wise though for raping and killing women. If he looked and acted the same yet was gay and his victims were largely homosexual males, would he be considered the antithesis of what most people would consider a serial killer? What does a serial killer really look like anyway? Their psychopathic behavior runs deeper than their mundane ability to assimilate into typical society and their physical presentation. I've never thought him particularly handsome either, but from what I've read of him, including the book 'The Stranger Beside Me' by Ann Rule, he was seen as being the way I've described him, to most people.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 3, 2020 7:50:51 GMT
I've never thought him particularly handsome either, but from what I've read of him, including the book 'The Stranger Beside Me' by Ann Rule, he was seen as being the way I've described him, to most people. Yes, he used whatever manipulating charm and sex appeal he had to ensnare his victims. That doesn't mean it makes him any more of a heinous monster for targeting women, over Gacy's and Dahmer's victims. These guys ensnared their prey after coveting them and then under false pretenses manipulated them back to their murder homes. Some may not have been gay either. I never said it made him any less of a monster than any other serial killer. I spoke about how he was perceived by a lot of people and the press.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 3, 2020 7:58:34 GMT
I never said it made him any less of a monster than any other serial killer. I spoke about how he was perceived by a lot of people and the press. That was my main point though, that Bundy tends to get more of the publicity as a serial killer and due to his targeting of women. Than again, you are misunderstanding my main point. He received all the publicity because he was handsome, intelligent and charming. He had worked for the Republican political party and was perceived as being an All-American success story.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 3, 2020 10:55:11 GMT
Damn, 12 people (so far) have said yes? I wonder if we could crowdfund a public execution.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 3, 2020 17:19:35 GMT
If the person harmed someone I knew, probably.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 3, 2020 17:31:30 GMT
I wonder if we could crowdfund a public execution. I have the perfect candidate. The perfect candidate is anyone whom you label a "Trump supporter" on any given day, because of the fact that you're a sick fuck.
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Post by dirtypillows on Nov 3, 2020 23:01:33 GMT
That was my main point though, that Bundy tends to get more of the publicity as a serial killer and due to his targeting of women. Than again, you are misunderstanding my main point. He received all the publicity because he was handsome, intelligent and charming. He had worked for the Republican political party and was perceived as being an All-American success story. I've watched some footage on the Bundy case and one thing that stood out to me was when the judge paid Bundy some compliments, mainly regarding his intelligence as the promise he had shown as a young lawyer. And I remember the judge saying something along the lines of "it could have been a real pleasure working with you under those circumstances" and then what a crying shame that Bundy had decided to use all his considerable gifts for such purposes of destruction. The way the judge said this made my blood run cold, and, yet, it was very sad at the same time. Once again, what might have been.
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Post by hi224 on Nov 4, 2020 3:27:51 GMT
I could not do this. I've been at a friend's bedside when he passed away, so it's not death per se that disturbs me. But the nature of capital punishment repels me, and reading accounts of the villagers coming down to the square to witness a hanging or a beheading or some such grisly act makes my blood run cold. I doubt that I'd ever be able to sleep through the night again. I'm watching "The Wicked Lady" right now. There's a hanging scene. That's what made me think of it. Thank god this is a comedy! Faye Dunaway is hilariously over the top! Edit. The guy in the movie just said that the hanging victim (played by Alan Bates, from the looks) may have escaped from the noose! Let's hope so! da?
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Post by dirtypillows on Nov 4, 2020 17:02:34 GMT
I could not do this. I've been at a friend's bedside when he passed away, so it's not death per se that disturbs me. But the nature of capital punishment repels me, and reading accounts of the villagers coming down to the square to witness a hanging or a beheading or some such grisly act makes my blood run cold. I doubt that I'd ever be able to sleep through the night again. I'm watching "The Wicked Lady" right now. There's a hanging scene. That's what made me think of it. Thank god this is a comedy! Faye Dunaway is hilariously over the top! Edit. The guy in the movie just said that the hanging victim (played by Alan Bates, from the looks) may have escaped from the noose! Let's hope so! da? Ich versteeg nicht?
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Post by dirtypillows on Nov 4, 2020 17:16:06 GMT
I've watched some footage on the Bundy case and one thing that stood out to me was when the judge paid Bundy some compliments, mainly regarding his intelligence as the promise he had shown as a young lawyer. And I remember the judge saying something along the lines of "it could have been a real pleasure working with you under those circumstances" and then what a crying shame that Bundy had decided to use all his considerable gifts for such purposes of destruction. The way the judge said this made my blood run cold, and, yet, it was very sad at the same time. Once again, what might have been. From what I have read, Bundy had some dysfunction in his upbringing, same as with Gacy and Dhamer and Gacy apparently suffered at the hands of physical abuse. It doesn't seem anything so out of the ordinary as to what a myriad of others have suffered. There has to be something else more deep-seated that triggered these guys off. I don't know if I believe, or want to believe that they people come into this world as bad seeds. Raise them in different home and a different personality could emerge.
I also feel that someone like Aileen Wuronos suffered far worse than what these guys did and as previously mentioned, while she is labelled a serial killer, she doesn't really fit this profile either.
I agree about Aileen. One of the hallmarks of a serial killer is that they derive a sadistic pleasure in seeing their victims suffer. Aileen was not a sadist. Aileen shot her victims point blank. She robbed her victims and so her motive would appear to be financial gain, but I also feel that Aileen was angry at the whole world. And you really can't blame her. I look at Aileen and see a wounded, frightened animal lashing out. Her outlook of the world was basic. Sometimes people say there are others who had it worse than Aileen, but I don't know about that. She was life's ultimate scapegoat.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 5, 2020 2:03:58 GMT
Okay. That's cool. Public executions aren't your scene. So how about attending a public flogging?
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Post by senan90 on Nov 5, 2020 2:15:42 GMT
Okay. That's cool. Public executions aren't your scene. So how about attending a public flogging? ^Still says he isn't gay.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 25, 2020 14:21:07 GMT
I thought of this thread while listening to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History episode about public executions and it’s worth a listen if you have four and a half hours spare...
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