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Post by janntosh on Oct 24, 2020 17:41:14 GMT
Instead of what ended up winning?
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire
ET instead of Gandhi
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind
The Two Towers instead of Chicago
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire
Or other examples that are not mentioned?
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Post by Archelaus on Oct 24, 2020 19:47:55 GMT
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest: I would say no. Both of these films are very good.
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall: Yes. I love both of these films, but Star Wars was a huge cultural and artistic landmark. It was a pastiche of the past, but it featured a new vision of the future in the area of visual effects.
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People: I honestly think Raging Bull should won that year. So, while I love Empire Strikes Back, I would say no.
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire: I recuse myself from deciding until I have seen Chariots of Fire. That said, Raiders of the Lost Ark is an all-time great adventure film, but I don't think it's Best Picture quality.
ET instead of Gandhi: I can see why the Academy went for Gandhi because of its historical nature and it has something to say about human relations. I am completely fine with Gandhi winning over E.T.
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa: It's the same as Raiders of the Lost Ark. BTTF is a great film for its genre, but I don't think it's quite Best Picture quality. That said, I haven't seen Out of Africa so I recuse myself from deciding.
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind: Yes. The Fellowship of the Ring is an all-time great fantasy film in which several filmmakers tried but were unable to make for decades. It should have won given the effort that was put in, and managing to meet and exceed expectations. Meanwhile, I love A Beautiful Mind and it has one of Russell Crowe's best performances.
The Two Towers instead of Chicago: I don't think The Two Towers was the best installment of the trilogy, but I'm okay if it had won over Chicago, which was a lovely musical by the way. So, yes.
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire: Yes. TDK was an influential film and remains one of the standard bearers for the superhero genre.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 24, 2020 20:47:08 GMT
Semi-related question: did Titanic deserve to win Best Picture?
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Post by Archelaus on Oct 24, 2020 20:58:15 GMT
Semi-related question: did Titanic deserve to win Best Picture? I would have preferred that L.A. Confidential had won Best Picture. Titanic is still awesome in its own right, and it's way more iconic. Another example would be Rocky winning over Taxi Driver, Network, Bound for Glory, and All the President's Men. If it were me, I would have chosen Taxi Driver.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 24, 2020 21:02:21 GMT
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest : No
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall : No
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People : No
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire : Yes
ET instead of Gandhi : No
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa : No
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind : Yes
The Two Towers instead of Chicago : Yes
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire : Yes
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Post by janntosh on Oct 24, 2020 21:03:55 GMT
Semi-related question: did Titanic deserve to win Best Picture? As a Career Achievement award for James Cameron I would say yes |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 24, 2020 21:53:24 GMT
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest -no
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall -no
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People -Empire isn't my #1 of 1980, but I like it more than OP
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire -havent seen CoF
ET instead of Gandhi -eh, coin flip. I'm not crazy about either
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa -yes
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind -not my #1 of 2001, but over ABM sure
The Two Towers instead of Chicago -same as Fellowship
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire -hell yeah
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Post by Xcalatë on Oct 24, 2020 21:57:12 GMT
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (nope)
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall (nope)
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People (yes)
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire (YES)
ET instead of Gandhi (no)
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa (YES)
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind (Yes)
The Two Towers instead of Chicago (Fuck yes)
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire (FU CK Y E A H)
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 24, 2020 22:03:43 GMT
King Kong 1933 wasn't even nominated.
Who talks about Cavalcade?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 24, 2020 22:23:43 GMT
There does seem to be a lot of forgettable Best Picture winners over the years. Has anyone here actually seen "Wings" (1927)? It was the first Best Picture Winner.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 24, 2020 23:06:20 GMT
There does seem to be a lot of forgettable Best Picture winners over the years. Has anyone here actually seen "Wings" (1927)? It was the first Best Picture Winner. I've seen Wings. The dogfight sequences are jaw dropping, especially for 1927. The plot, hokum. But that was standard for the day. There was actually two best pictures, Wings and Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans. Best Unique and Artistic achievement. Sunrise was the better film.
I've seen every best nominated film except three. One lost, two not available. None were bad. Some are dated, In Old Arizona, Cimarron, Cavalcade. But none are Monster a Go-Go like
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 24, 2020 23:12:08 GMT
There does seem to be a lot of forgettable Best Picture winners over the years. Has anyone here actually seen "Wings" (1927)? It was the first Best Picture Winner. I've seen Wings. The dogfight sequences are jaw dropping, especially for 1927. The plot, hokum. But that was standard for the day. There was actually two best pictures, Wings and Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans. Best Unique and Artistic achievement. Sunrise was the better film.
I've seen every best nominated film except three. One lost, two not available. None were bad. Some are dated, In Old Arizona, Cimarron, Cavalcade. But none are Monster a Go-Go like
What did you think of "How Green Was My Valley"? It was the film that beat Citizen Kane for Best Picture.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 24, 2020 23:16:39 GMT
I've seen Wings. The dogfight sequences are jaw dropping, especially for 1927. The plot, hokum. But that was standard for the day. There was actually two best pictures, Wings and Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans. Best Unique and Artistic achievement. Sunrise was the better film.
I've seen every best nominated film except three. One lost, two not available. None were bad. Some are dated, In Old Arizona, Cimarron, Cavalcade. But none are Monster a Go-Go like
What did you think of "How Green Was My Valley"? It was the film that beat Citizen Kane for Best Picture. It was a very good movie. Better than Kane? you need to remember the times. it was 1941, films like How Green Was My Valley or Going My Way had more appeal than Citizen Kane or Double Indemnity. 1941 was a tough year, you had The Maltese Falcon in nomination too.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 24, 2020 23:27:17 GMT
Instead of what ended up winning? Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest Star Wars instead of Annie Hall Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire ET instead of Gandhi Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind The Two Towers instead of Chicago The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire Or other examples that are not mentioned? my choices
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Star Wars Raging Bull The Verdict Witness (Out of Africa year) A Beautiful Mind Gangs of new York Frost/Nixon, anything but Slumdog
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Oct 25, 2020 0:01:44 GMT
Instead of what ended up winning? Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest Star Wars instead of Annie Hall Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire ET instead of Gandhi Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind The Two Towers instead of Chicago The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire Or other examples that are not mentioned? That's a NO to any of your choices. And I don't even like Chicago and I'm indifferent to CO Fire, OO Africa, AB Mind and SM.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Oct 25, 2020 0:09:14 GMT
There does seem to be a lot of forgettable Best Picture winners over the years. Has anyone here actually seen "Wings" (1927)? It was the first Best Picture Winner. Yes and it's a solid movie. Sunrise would be my pick for the year though.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 25, 2020 3:50:04 GMT
Raging Bull should have won against Ordinary People.
Only two of the LOTR movies would have one - Fellowship for being the first ot ROTK for being the conclusion. Two Towers never had a shot.
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Post by kolchak92 on Oct 25, 2020 5:33:43 GMT
Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest - No
Star Wars instead of Annie Hall - No
Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People - No
Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire - Yes
ET instead of Gandhi - Yes
Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa - Haven't seen Out of Africa
Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind - No
The Two Towers instead of Chicago - No
The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire - Yes
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Post by jonesjxd on Oct 25, 2020 12:27:58 GMT
Instead of what ended up winning? Jaws instead of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest Star Wars instead of Annie Hall Empire Strikes Back instead of Ordinary People Raiders of the Lost Ark instead of Chariots of Fire ET instead of Gandhi Back to the Future instead of Out of Africa Fellowship of the Ring instead of A Beautiful Mind The Two Towers instead of Chicago The Dark Knight instead of Slumdog Millionaire Or other examples that are not mentioned? My only "No" is for 2002, I think Chicago was very deserving.
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Post by janntosh on Oct 25, 2020 16:04:26 GMT
I’m shocked more aren’t saying Back to the Future over Out of Africa. That movie didn’t even seem that well received by critics, which makes its Best Picture win kind of head scratching
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