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Post by gadreel on Nov 7, 2020 5:58:34 GMT
And now i did look it up, and I can say yes, professional scholars study the usage of words and update the dictionary based on their findings.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 7, 2020 6:27:26 GMT
And now i did look it up, and I can say yes, professional scholars study the usage of words and update the dictionary based on their findings. And what prevents you from participating in "updating" the findings? In response to your earlier answer I will say it is better than I expected from you. You had better teachers than I guessed. The main problem people have when they have one using a dictionary is the attitude that reality needs to conform to the definition available in the dictionary. That is backward. That is what you attempted. You made an argument based on a dictionary definition in a dictatorial manner. That is very bad practice. A "proof" should never depend on a dictionary definition. One of the first things I noticed wrong with this board was the attempt to prove that homosexuality was not a choice based on the dictionary definition of "orientation."
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Post by gadreel on Nov 7, 2020 6:38:48 GMT
And now i did look it up, and I can say yes, professional scholars study the usage of words and update the dictionary based on their findings. In response to your earlier answer I will say it is better than I expected from you. You had better teachers than I guessed. The main problem people have when they have one using a dictionary is the attitude that reality needs to conform to the definition available in the dictionary. That is backward. That is what you attempted. You made an argument based on a dictionary definition in a dictatorial manner. That is very bad practice. A "proof" should never depend on a dictionary definition. One of the first things I noticed wrong with this board was the attempt to prove that homosexuality was not a choice based on the dictionary definition of "orientation." In the case of the Oxford Dictionary, I am not an Oxford scholar, in fact i daresay that this is going to be the case for all dictionaries, much like I don't charge in on brain surgery because I am not qualified.
I guess as the boards foremost intellectual, you think you are being fair, but really given your intelligence as evidenced on this board, this is just arrogance.
Given the very purpose of a dictionary is to define the meaning of words, I don't see how using it for such is a problem.
I said that the purpose of a dictionary was to define words, are you suggesting this is not the case? what is a dictionary for then?
No one said it should, I said if you argue you should agree on the definition of terms, so not really sure what 'proof' you are talking about , but are you saying that when you are arguing it does not matter if you agree on terms??
I am pretty sure I have never made that claim, and I don't really know why you brought it up, but I really can't do much about this
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 7, 2020 6:52:15 GMT
In response to your earlier answer I will say it is better than I expected from you. You had better teachers than I guessed. The main problem people have when they have one using a dictionary is the attitude that reality needs to conform to the definition available in the dictionary. That is backward. That is what you attempted. You made an argument based on a dictionary definition in a dictatorial manner. That is very bad practice. A "proof" should never depend on a dictionary definition. One of the first things I noticed wrong with this board was the attempt to prove that homosexuality was not a choice based on the dictionary definition of "orientation." In the case of the Oxford Dictionary, I am not an Oxford scholar, in fact i daresay that this is going to be the case for all dictionaries, much like I don't charge in on brain surgery because I am not qualified.
I guess as the boards foremost intellectual, you think you are being fair, but really given your intelligence as evidenced on this board, this is just arrogance.
Given the very purpose of a dictionary is to define the meaning of words, I don't see how using it for such is a problem.
I said that the purpose of a dictionary was to define words, are you suggesting this is not the case? what is a dictionary for then?
No one said it should, I said if you argue you should agree on the definition of terms, so not really sure what 'proof' you are talking about , but are you saying that when you are arguing it does not matter if you agree on terms??
I am pretty sure I have never made that claim, and I don't really know why you brought it up, but I really can't do much about this
- Do you think you're any less arrogant than I am? How does that work?
- English professors are not brain surgeons either. Elementary school children are not professors of anything.
- Sometimes it's easier to learn from other people's mistakes than our own.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 7, 2020 11:36:07 GMT
In the case of the Oxford Dictionary, I am not an Oxford scholar, in fact i daresay that this is going to be the case for all dictionaries, much like I don't charge in on brain surgery because I am not qualified.
I guess as the boards foremost intellectual, you think you are being fair, but really given your intelligence as evidenced on this board, this is just arrogance.
Given the very purpose of a dictionary is to define the meaning of words, I don't see how using it for such is a problem.
I said that the purpose of a dictionary was to define words, are you suggesting this is not the case? what is a dictionary for then?
No one said it should, I said if you argue you should agree on the definition of terms, so not really sure what 'proof' you are talking about , but are you saying that when you are arguing it does not matter if you agree on terms??
I am pretty sure I have never made that claim, and I don't really know why you brought it up, but I really can't do much about this
- Do you think you're any less arrogant than I am? How does that work?
- English professors are not brain surgeons either. Elementary school children are not professors of anything.
- Sometimes it's easier to learn from other people's mistakes than our own.
Do you assume you win every argument?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 7, 2020 11:37:04 GMT
And now i did look it up, and I can say yes, professional scholars study the usage of words and update the dictionary based on their findings. Is Ar arguing with the dictionary again.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 7, 2020 11:54:25 GMT
- Do you think you're any less arrogant than I am? How does that work?
- English professors are not brain surgeons either. Elementary school children are not professors of anything.
- Sometimes it's easier to learn from other people's mistakes than our own.
Do you assume you win every argument? It's not about me. It's about my school. Atheism on the internet proceeds as though it has some established authority. It has no such thing. It is not fit to make any rules.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 7, 2020 11:57:53 GMT
And now i did look it up, and I can say yes, professional scholars study the usage of words and update the dictionary based on their findings. Is Ar arguing with the dictionary again. I'm arguing with the product of inferior public education whose only contact with the wide world is a dictionary.
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Post by gadreel on Nov 7, 2020 23:59:55 GMT
In the case of the Oxford Dictionary, I am not an Oxford scholar, in fact i daresay that this is going to be the case for all dictionaries, much like I don't charge in on brain surgery because I am not qualified.
I guess as the boards foremost intellectual, you think you are being fair, but really given your intelligence as evidenced on this board, this is just arrogance.
Given the very purpose of a dictionary is to define the meaning of words, I don't see how using it for such is a problem.
I said that the purpose of a dictionary was to define words, are you suggesting this is not the case? what is a dictionary for then?
No one said it should, I said if you argue you should agree on the definition of terms, so not really sure what 'proof' you are talking about , but are you saying that when you are arguing it does not matter if you agree on terms??
I am pretty sure I have never made that claim, and I don't really know why you brought it up, but I really can't do much about this
- Do you think you're any less arrogant than I am? How does that work?
- English professors are not brain surgeons either. Elementary school children are not professors of anything.
- Sometimes it's easier to learn from other people's mistakes than our own.
probably not, in fact I am likely very arrogant, it's part of my charm.
Sorry that is just a total non-sequitur, English professors are for english, brain surgeons are for brain surgery, school children are still learning, not sure why any of that is relevant.
I don't think that is true, but at any rate I am not sure what mistake you think I have made
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 8, 2020 1:56:57 GMT
Is Ar arguing with the dictionary again. I'm arguing with the product of inferior public education whose only contact with the wide world is a dictionary. Yeah, I hate schools that do that. I’m sorry that was your experience. However, it wasn’t mine. I got a pretty good pre-college education.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2020 6:38:19 GMT
I'm arguing with the product of inferior public education whose only contact with the wide world is a dictionary. Yeah, I hate schools that do that. I’m sorry that was your experience. However, it wasn’t mine. I got a pretty good pre-college education. I actually get around the world and different schools.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 8, 2020 10:51:09 GMT
- Do you think you're any less arrogant than I am? How does that work?
- English professors are not brain surgeons either. Elementary school children are not professors of anything.
- Sometimes it's easier to learn from other people's mistakes than our own.
probably not, in fact I am likely very arrogant, it's part of my charm.
Sorry that is just a total non-sequitur, English professors are for english, brain surgeons are for brain surgery, school children are still learning, not sure why any of that is relevant.
I don't think that is true, but at any rate I am not sure what mistake you think I have made You believe dictionaries do more than they do because you have no idea what anyone does and want it simple.
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Post by gadreel on Nov 8, 2020 22:10:32 GMT
probably not, in fact I am likely very arrogant, it's part of my charm.
Sorry that is just a total non-sequitur, English professors are for english, brain surgeons are for brain surgery, school children are still learning, not sure why any of that is relevant.
I don't think that is true, but at any rate I am not sure what mistake you think I have made You believe dictionaries do more than they do because you have no idea what anyone does and want it simple. Righto.
You did all right to begin with, you asked pertinent questions, and at least once you actually responded to the answer to them, sadly I see you slipping again into fantasy land. I wont bother engaging with fantasy or lies.
Thanks for trying Arlon, if you decide to debate honestly sometime I am sure you will make a reasonable debater.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 8, 2020 22:57:36 GMT
You believe dictionaries do more than they do because you have no idea what anyone does and want it simple. Righto. You did all right to begin with, you asked pertinent questions, and at least once you actually responded to the answer to them, sadly I see you slipping again into fantasy land. I wont bother engaging with fantasy or lies.
Thanks for trying Arlon, if you decide to debate honestly sometime I am sure you will make a reasonable debater.
His felt his resolution weakening and double back down on his assurance he’s always right, because he thinks he thinks outside of the box.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 9, 2020 7:23:11 GMT
You believe dictionaries do more than they do because you have no idea what anyone does and want it simple. Righto.
You did all right to begin with, you asked pertinent questions, and at least once you actually responded to the answer to them, sadly I see you slipping again into fantasy land. I wont bother engaging with fantasy or lies.
Thanks for trying Arlon, if you decide to debate honestly sometime I am sure you will make a reasonable debater.
Thank you for the time you took to critique. I am sure you agree though that some critiques are just nonsense.
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Post by goz on Nov 14, 2020 2:55:47 GMT
I'm arguing with the product of inferior public education whose only contact with the wide world is a dictionary. Yeah, I hate schools that do that. I’m sorry that was your experience. However, it wasn’t mine. I got a pretty good pre-college education. OMG! Don't tell me that I share something in common with Planet Arlon, in that I went to a top private school?   It wasn't my fault that my father was a lawyer and could (almost) afford private education for me! Besides I won a scholarship so it was OK. My cousins went to a public school and did just as well.
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 14, 2020 3:47:48 GMT
teaching creation theology to a tomb full of dehydrated baboons lurking just around the corners of every scrap of concrete evidence lies an unwavering circumstance where someone had a close encounter with a spiritual whiffle ball as it bounced off the well polished halls of a service station complete with stalls where reach arounds are clarion calls for experiences one could just call nice balls but this apparently was an orgasm that said it all. sjw 10/30/2020 inspired at this very moment in time by which light was it you saw again. from the 'beguiled series' of poems Can you NOT bring homosexual sex to my pristine and pure agnostic atheist thread which you somehow conflate with creation theory and dehydrated baboons? I normally support your 'poems' and your right to post on threads in general, butt I would like you to fuck off and delete this particular bit on confused gay porn. Thanks in advance. What? 
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 14, 2020 12:19:25 GMT
Yeah, I hate schools that do that. I’m sorry that was your experience. However, it wasn’t mine. I got a pretty good pre-college education. OMG! Don't tell me that I share something in common with Planet Arlon, in that I went to a top private school? It wasn't my fault that my father was a lawyer and could (almost) afford private education for me! Besides I won a scholarship so it was OK. My cousins went to a public school and did just as well. Is your father also stupid? About half of lawyers are. Let's not talk about the United States right now though.
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Post by gadreel on Nov 15, 2020 21:22:09 GMT
Righto.
You did all right to begin with, you asked pertinent questions, and at least once you actually responded to the answer to them, sadly I see you slipping again into fantasy land. I wont bother engaging with fantasy or lies.
Thanks for trying Arlon, if you decide to debate honestly sometime I am sure you will make a reasonable debater.
Thank you for the time you took to critique. I am sure agree though that some critiques are just nonsense. Yes I do agree, you have aptly proven that time and time again.
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Post by gadreel on Nov 15, 2020 21:23:54 GMT
Righto. You did all right to begin with, you asked pertinent questions, and at least once you actually responded to the answer to them, sadly I see you slipping again into fantasy land. I wont bother engaging with fantasy or lies.
Thanks for trying Arlon, if you decide to debate honestly sometime I am sure you will make a reasonable debater.
His felt his resolution weakening and double back down on his assurance he’s always right, because he thinks he thinks outside of the box. Him and Erjen both, I hate myself cos I troll them but then every now and again they act like they want an actual honest discussion, but then this happens. And it's not like I am even the sharpest tool in the shed, if I am enough to ruin their chances at debate, what the hell???
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