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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 31, 2020 15:04:21 GMT
Me: The kinds of weapons Brady has this year are the kinds of weapons Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers have had for their entire career. A lot of people know that, and have been saying so for a decade. Even at 43, Brady is proving what he could have done with Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelce, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, and Davante Adams for an entire career. And the Patriots are showing what other QBs can do with an old Julian Edleman, N'Keal Harry, and Jakobi Meyers.
Happy Halloween!
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 31, 2020 15:15:42 GMT
Me: The kinds of weapons Brady has this year are the kinds of weapons Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers have had for their entire career. A lot of people know that, and have been saying so for a decade. Even at 43, Brady is proving what he could have done with Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelce, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, and Davante Adams for an entire career. And the Patriots are showing what other QBs can do with an old Julian Edleman, N'Keal Harry, and Jakobi Meyers. Happy Halloween! What are you going on about, man? In my opinion, Brady is the greatest QB of all-time. But he is not to NFL what Jordan was to NBA. If Manning is 9/10, Brady is 9.5/10. The difference between greatest QBs is not as much as difference between Jordan and rest in NBA.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 31, 2020 15:31:34 GMT
I'm going on about the main argument against Brady. You seem to put Brady ahead of Manning (even if only by a little, and I'm on board with that) but there are a bunch of people out there and on here who put Manning ahead of Brady. Who put Rodgers ahead of Brady. Who already think Mahomes is better than Brady ever was.
And its an argument I've been having for over a decade: LOOK AT THE WEAPONS!!! The argument for Manning over Brady is more yards per game, more touchdowns per game, better QB rating, more MVPs. My argument against that was LOOK AT THE WEAPONS! If Brady had two all pro receivers to throw to, he'd have the records. He'd have the MVPs. And I'd say "look what he did with 1 year of Randy Moss and Wes Welker." That would be very close to his career average numbers if he had those weapons every year.
Rodgers is the same. For his big years he had Greg Jennings, Randall Cobb, Jordy Nelson, and Davante Adams. He's still done well with just Davante Adams the last two and a half years, but no where close to the numbers he was putting up with multiple pro bowl WRs. 2016 with 3 of those guys - 40 touchdowns, 73 QBR. 2018 with only Davante - 25 TDs, 54 QBR. 2019 with only Davante - 26 TDs, 55 QBR.
Seeing what Brady can do, at 43, with two pro bowl wide receivers ( I know its only been 7 games ) should leave no doubt that Brady would hold every single passing record with a shit-ton of MVPs.
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