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Post by Jan El Señor on Oct 31, 2020 16:45:06 GMT
First episode was meh.
Lots of fan service and lots of things bothered me in this ep.
Why do Twileks look worse than shitty cosplayers on this series?
Why does the kryat dragon look nothing like the skeleton we see in ANH?
Why does Boba Fett's armor look like an adult is wearing a kids cheap Halloween costume?
How can Mando and the sheriff have a talk while riding full speed on speeder bikes? Lol
Once again, Disney is showing us that there are no stakes, as death means nothing in Star Wars now. Any dead character can return. Boba Fett is being shoehorned into this show.
I won't say this one episode makes the show jump the shark, but it's pretty damn close. Hopefully, the next episodes are better....
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Post by johnspartan on Oct 31, 2020 17:55:47 GMT
First episode was meh. Lots of fan service and lots of things bothered me in this ep. Why does the kryat dragon look nothing like the skeleton we see in ANH? Why does Boba Fett's armor look like an adult is wearing a kids cheap Halloween costume? How can Mando and the sheriff have a talk while riding full speed on speeder bikes? Lol Once again, Disney is showing us that there are no stakes, as death means nothing in Star Wars now. Any dead character can return. Boba Fett is being shoehorned into this show. I won't say this one episode makes the show jump the shark, but it's pretty damn close. Hopefully, the next episodes are better.... 1.Eh, I guess they were mimicking the one from KOTOR. Didn't bother me. 2.Yeah, that armor looked dumb on Girl Next Door actor. 3.Eh, didn't bother me 4.I'm glad Boba is alive.
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Post by dazz on Nov 1, 2020 5:18:39 GMT
First episode was meh. Lots of fan service and lots of things bothered me in this ep. Why do Twileks look worse than shitty cosplayers on this series? Why does the kryat dragon look nothing like the skeleton we see in ANH? Why does Boba Fett's armor look like an adult is wearing a kids cheap Halloween costume? How can Mando and the sheriff have a talk while riding full speed on speeder bikes? Lol Once again, Disney is showing us that there are no stakes, as death means nothing in Star Wars now. Any dead character can return. Boba Fett is being shoehorned into this show. I won't say this one episode makes the show jump the shark, but it's pretty damn close. Hopefully, the next episodes are better.... To be fair death never meant anything in SW to begin with, Obi-Wan dies in ANH and is still a main character for 2 more movies, Yoda dies and is shown to be a force ghost, Anakin dies and is made a force ghost also, who dies in SW we are meant to care about that their death matters? Or even who we don't care about, Luke and Leia easily get over the deaths of their families, Leia doesn't seem phased by her entire planets death after the initial shock. This is the one regard where the PT does it better, Qui-Gon, Shmi, Dooku, Windu, Padme their deaths matter, sure the Clone Wars brought back Maul but then even in the show when Savage dies it matters to Maul, when the clones are killed who we know their deaths impact the other clones, and well in the ST Hans death does matter the other deaths not so much, well Kylo's kind of I guess, but then in Rebels when Kanan dies it matters to the crew of the Ghost also as then does Maul's final death. For the look of the dragon, eh who says thye all have to look the same, people have different features, the one we saw in the episode seemed to be exceptionally large, Mando for instances underestimated it's size, maybe the skeleton in ANH is a male and this was a female, size and shape differences in species is quite common, a female great white can be almost double the size of the male, some species the male is literally a fraction the size of the female or don't even resemble the same species, so this is the logic I apply to this, makes the world of SW more realistic in an odd way. As for Boba being alive, meh, I don't like it, but at the same time who cares? not like Boba was a vital part of the OT and his death a huge moment in the series, he's a character people gravitated to due to his look but he was all flash no substance and they killed him like a putz so whatever I guess, hough I would have preferred them not to bring him back. As for the speeders maybe they have some kind of communication devices? Mando makes sense he has the helmet on so him hearing should be fine if it has a built in head set thing, the other guy not so much, cannot argue about the twileks however.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 1, 2020 16:21:47 GMT
cannot argue about the twileks however. I was hoping that we'd get an explanation that the Twileks in season 1 were just a different looking subset, but it looks like this show is just going to stay on the shitty vampire cosplay Twilek look for all of them....
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Post by shannondegroot on Nov 1, 2020 18:07:24 GMT
The Trandoshans look different as well, and the Jawa eyes seem too perfect and bright to me.
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Post by johnspartan on Nov 1, 2020 18:16:35 GMT
The Trandoshans look different as well, and the Jawa eyes seem too perfect and bright to me. I wasn't too happy with the skinny Gamorrean fighters.
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 1, 2020 22:12:46 GMT
I wasn't too impressed with this episode. It was more in line with the earlier episodes of Season 1 where Mando teams up with someone to complete a mission. They finish the mission and go about their separate ways. Hardly anything advanced. That said, I was impressed with the visual effects that created the krayt dragon. It really looked real.
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Post by Winter_King on Nov 2, 2020 13:34:44 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Boba Fett surviving is canon and has been canon for a long time. This has nothing to do with Disney.
The complain about speeder bikes is fair but then again, so is every complain about hearing sound in space, gravity been the same on every planet etc... It's the sort of complain that you have to make against every Start Wars movie or tv show.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 2, 2020 14:40:02 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Boba Fett surviving is canon and has been canon for a long time. This has nothing to do with Disney. Incorrect. It has only just been established as canon with this episode. The complain about speeder bikes is fair but then again, so is every complain about hearing sound in space, gravity been the same on every planet etc... It's the sort of complain that you have to make against every Start Wars movie or tv show. No, because it's not internally consistent with the established universe. Luke and Leia had to yell at each other riding speeder bikes full speed in ROTJ.
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Post by dazz on Nov 2, 2020 18:55:48 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Boba Fett surviving is canon and has been canon for a long time. This has nothing to do with Disney. Incorrect. It has only just been established as canon with this episode. The complain about speeder bikes is fair but then again, so is every complain about hearing sound in space, gravity been the same on every planet etc... It's the sort of complain that you have to make against every Start Wars movie or tv show. No, because it's not internally consistent with the established universe. Luke and Leia had to yell at each other riding speeder bikes full speed in ROTJ. Boba Fett surviving is new to proper canon with this, in the past he has survived before I think but that was legends when we had like 15 different timelines going on at the same time, and nothing was really officially canon to the movies. With the speeders to be fair using Luke and Leia on the speeders is a flawed logic, those were Imperial speeders, so they would have no need for built in communication because the troopers could and should have them built into their uniforms, where as the Marshal's speeder isn't imperial and maybe Mando's isn't either but Mando has built in communication to his armour, so the Marshal's ride having a communication system would make sense.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 2, 2020 20:23:28 GMT
First episode was meh. Lots of fan service and lots of things bothered me in this ep. Why do Twileks look worse than shitty cosplayers on this series? Why does the kryat dragon look nothing like the skeleton we see in ANH? Why does Boba Fett's armor look like an adult is wearing a kids cheap Halloween costume? How can Mando and the sheriff have a talk while riding full speed on speeder bikes? Lol Once again, Disney is showing us that there are no stakes, as death means nothing in Star Wars now. Any dead character can return. Boba Fett is being shoehorned into this show. I won't say this one episode makes the show jump the shark, but it's pretty damn close. Hopefully, the next episodes are better.... Agree with all of this. Also a nitpick, but there are a lot of people populating a mining town nobody is sure exists anymore. I know this is a western in space, but this isn't literally the wild west. Surely the population has some communication with the outside world-- where do they sell their goods, get supplies, etc.? I thought the actual dialog said something about the town being wiped out after the war, then Mando is shown a map from before the war and the town still doesn't appear. Minor stuff, but it felt like lazy writing. My biggest gripe was that it felt a little more corporate than the first season. Too much forced comic relief, too many shots of baby yoda because they want to sell more dolls, stuff like that. Season one was incredible, but even then it was up and down from episode to episode, and I have faith that this season will be the same, at worst. But yeah my initial reaction to episode 1 was meh.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 2, 2020 21:17:06 GMT
4.I'm glad Boba is alive. Lots of people are gladly drinking that piss. Look forward to more dead characters being resurrected down the road.
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Post by johnspartan on Nov 2, 2020 21:21:26 GMT
4.I'm glad Boba is alive. Lots of people are gladly drinking that piss. Look forward to more dead characters being resurrected down the road.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 2, 2020 21:55:15 GMT
Lots of people are gladly drinking that piss. Look forward to more dead characters being resurrected down the road. Sick burn, bro!
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Post by dazz on Nov 3, 2020 1:47:42 GMT
4.I'm glad Boba is alive. Lots of people are gladly drinking that piss. Look forward to more dead characters being resurrected down the road. But honestly how is that any different or worse than them killing Obi-Wan in ANH just to have him be a force ghost for the next two movies? or Anakin dies after saving Luke only to be welcomed by Obi-Wan and Yoda as a Force Ghost 5 minutes later? This isn't like Palpatine dying then being revived which negates the entire series up till that point, making the events of the OT even more insignificant than JJ made them in TFA, Boba being dead or alive changes nothing, his death wasn't a meaningful thing, it didn't mark any great feat or accomplishment it was just done to be done, so who cares if it is undone?
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 3, 2020 18:38:42 GMT
Lots of people are gladly drinking that piss. Look forward to more dead characters being resurrected down the road. But honestly how is that any different or worse than them killing Obi-Wan in ANH just to have him be a force ghost for the next two movies? or Anakin dies after saving Luke only to be welcomed by Obi-Wan and Yoda as a Force Ghost 5 minutes later? This isn't like Palpatine dying then being revived which negates the entire series up till that point, making the events of the OT even more insignificant than JJ made them in TFA, Boba being dead or alive changes nothing, his death wasn't a meaningful thing, it didn't mark any great feat or accomplishment it was just done to be done, so who cares if it is undone? Living on in an afterlife isn't the same as being resurrected from an intended death. Eh, it's just like I feel like this is the third strike. Strike one was Maul, which was just stupid. He survived because he was butthurt about getting his ass kicked. That's literally the explanation. Strike two was Palps. At least the explanation for it is better than Maul, but it's still stupid and has bigger ramifications on the saga. Fett is strike three. While I don't doubt it will make more sense than the other two, it's just annoying after the trope has been played out. Like I said, I'm not ready to write off the show due to one episode. I just don't like how the second season started.
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Post by dazz on Nov 3, 2020 21:56:25 GMT
But honestly how is that any different or worse than them killing Obi-Wan in ANH just to have him be a force ghost for the next two movies? or Anakin dies after saving Luke only to be welcomed by Obi-Wan and Yoda as a Force Ghost 5 minutes later? This isn't like Palpatine dying then being revived which negates the entire series up till that point, making the events of the OT even more insignificant than JJ made them in TFA, Boba being dead or alive changes nothing, his death wasn't a meaningful thing, it didn't mark any great feat or accomplishment it was just done to be done, so who cares if it is undone? Living on in an afterlife isn't the same as being resurrected from an intended death. Eh, it's just like I feel like this is the third strike. Strike one was Maul, which was just stupid. He survived because he was butthurt about getting his ass kicked. That's literally the explanation. Strike two was Palps. At least the explanation for it is better than Maul, but it's still stupid and has bigger ramifications on the saga. Fett is strike three. While I don't doubt it will make more sense than the other two, it's just annoying after the trope has been played out. Like I said, I'm not ready to write off the show due to one episode. I just don't like how the second season started. For me Force Ghost took all the meaning for the heroes dying away, because ok their physical form is gone but you still talk to them, interact with them, learn from them and so on, so you cannot get a hug what is the big deal really? them living in the afterlife is different, thats sort of a redemptive thing for Anakin, showing he died a good man I guess, but Luke dying, Leia dying, Obi-Wan and Yoda their deaths are trivial because they live on and interact through the force with out main heroes. For me though it depends on why they revive a character, Maul I don't mind ultimately because again his death wasn't a crucial point of the story, and his character became more interesting than just a cool looking character with his use in clone Wars and Rebels, Boba I think could be the same, Palpatine though being brought back especially the way he did was just literally shitting in the mouth of the OT yet again by JJ and led to nothing new or interesting, just a rehash of the same plot from ROTJ. If Boba serves a function in the show beyond nostalgia then I am all for it, if it's just a remember him thing then fuck that.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 15, 2020 4:05:33 GMT
Episodes two and three got better and better after the disappointing first episode so that’s a good thing.
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Post by onethreetwo on Nov 15, 2020 4:10:32 GMT
Episodes two and three got better and better after the disappointing first episode so that’s a good thing. I didn't dislike episode 2 or 3, but I can't say they did much for me. Almost nothing has happened in the last two episodes of actual substance. It's all filler. I sincerely hope this isn't another 8 episode season. Episode 3 was 30 minutes long. At that pace we'd be in for a 4 hour long season 2.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 15, 2020 4:22:55 GMT
Episodes two and three got better and better after the disappointing first episode so that’s a good thing. I didn't dislike episode 2 or 3, but I can't say they did much for me. Almost nothing has happened in the last two episodes of actual substance. It's all filler. I sincerely hope this isn't another 8 episode season. Episode 3 was 30 minutes long. At that pace we'd be in for a 4 hour long season 2. I like the episodic nature of the show. I don’t mind the length if the episodes are good. Episode 3 was shorter than episode 1, but it was way better. So I’ll take it.
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