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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 6, 2020 16:30:44 GMT
Yes - this is my fear if he doesn't concede peacefully.
If? He's already challenging it in court. What do you think he's going to do when that fails? Remember when he sounded insane when he ran in 2016, and everyone said, "Well he was just saying that stuff to get elected. He'll conform to human standards when it comes time to actually govern." How did that turn out? It's going to get ugly out there. His next move will be to start making vague tweets in all caps about taking America back.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Nov 6, 2020 16:35:18 GMT
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 6, 2020 17:18:47 GMT
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Post by wolf359 on Nov 6, 2020 17:56:54 GMT
Apparently, a site called "BUSINESS INSIDER" (which I actually have never heard of) has given Pennsylvania to Joe Biden and declared him the Winner of the Election.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 6, 2020 18:26:27 GMT
The entire fate of the world is down to Eagles fans. Think about that for a second. Where America started, America becomes reborn. E! A! G! L! E! S! Eagles!!!! 
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Nov 6, 2020 18:56:08 GMT
Biden's won the election. Now we just need Republicans, apart from Pence and Romney who already have to varying degrees, to distance themselves from Trump and claim the night as a good one for Republicans. The Blue Wave didn't happen. They retained control of the senate. They won seats in the house. They don't need to indulge this imbecile. Let Trump run up Hamburger Hill to die on if he wants to.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 6, 2020 18:59:41 GMT
Biden's won the election. Now we just need Republicans, apart from Pence and Romney who already have to varying degrees, to distance themselves from Trump and claim the night as a good one for Republicans. The Blue Wave didn't happen. They retained control of the senate. They won seats in the house. They don't need to indulge this imbecile. Let Trump run up Hamburger Hill to die on if he wants to. Republican Senator of Pennsylvania Pat Toomey called President Trump's allegation that PA's votes are 'illegal' -
'Very Disturbing'
'No evidence of corruption or fraud'
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Post by MrFurious on Nov 6, 2020 19:37:44 GMT
Massive spoilt child, wonderful end to his reign for him and his horrible criminal family. Great to have an adult back in the White House again.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 6, 2020 20:02:36 GMT
Biden just took the lead in Pennsylvania You're welcome America -Philadelphia
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Post by sdm3 on Nov 6, 2020 20:04:36 GMT
What of the vicious dogs and ominous weapons?
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Post by wolf359 on Nov 6, 2020 20:28:15 GMT
I wonder if the U.S. Supreme Court will save Trump.
I definitely hope that they will stay out of it but I can't see that happening.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Nov 6, 2020 20:48:14 GMT
I wonder if the U.S. Supreme Court will save Trump.
I definitely hope that they will stay out of it but I can't see that happening.
The only state he had any type of sensible challenge was PA, which is irrelevant now thanks to Georgia. I doubt the Supreme Court would rule in his favour there anyway, but even in the unlikely event that they do, it doesn't change the result.
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Post by wolf359 on Nov 6, 2020 20:49:53 GMT
I wonder if the U.S. Supreme Court will save Trump.
I definitely hope that they will stay out of it but I can't see that happening.
The only state he had any type of sensible challenge was PA, which is irrelevant now thanks to Georgia. I doubt the Supreme Court would rule in his favour there anyway, but even in the unlikely event that they do, it doesn't change the result.
If you don't mind me asking you this question, Do you think that the U.S. Supreme Court is going to step in ?
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Nov 6, 2020 21:01:56 GMT
I doubt it. Like I said PA's the only challenge that would have any solid kegal basis and it simply doesn't matter.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 6, 2020 21:03:12 GMT
The only state he had any type of sensible challenge was PA, which is irrelevant now thanks to Georgia. I doubt the Supreme Court would rule in his favour there anyway, but even in the unlikely event that they do, it doesn't change the result.
If you don't mind me asking you this question, Do you think that the U.S. Supreme Court is going to step in ?
The SC shouldn't step in. The election of the President and how the votes are cast is up to the individual states. If Trump wants to go the the SC of Pennsylvania, Georgia etc, fine. The SC ruled in 2000, Bush v. Gore. That wasn't a matter of voting fraud but of the Democrats wanting recount after recount. And it won't come down to a margin of 537 this time.
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Post by millar70 on Nov 6, 2020 21:18:07 GMT
Let's review some of our most recent disagreements. I made a comment on the Brady vs Belichick thread, you didn't like it and it led to three pages of you ignoring me. Then there was the thread about Brett Favre, I made a comment and you showed up to yell at me because I brought up some stuff about Aaron Rodgers gal pal. And on a thread here about the Presidential election, apparently me making a comment about it is another example of my obsession about you. I didn't make a comment to anything you posted, but you respond to me, and I'm the one who's obsessed. And in your mind, there are no colleges in red states, which I have to admit I was unaware of. You come off as an arrogant prig when you talk about the small town Trump supporter. He did get 70,000,000 votes, who knew there were so many simple minded hillbillies scattered throughout the country. And where are you from btw, Springfield Massachusetts? Maybe things have changed, but I don't really remember much racial diversity in small Massachusetts towns when I lived in the area, have things changed? And so what if Trump owns hotels? What that has to do with anything? I'll go point by point. 1. I didn't ignore you at all in the coaching conversation. I made valid points which you completely ignored, while you failed to make any points at all. You just insisted your opinion was right, offering no evidence to back it up. When I repeated my argument, again backed by evidence, you lost your shit because it's just what you do. Did you continue the goofy name calling for three pages, because yeah I wouldn't bother responding to that. 2. I didn't yell at you in the Brett Favre conversation. You made some comment about celebrities aligned with Joe Biden, I pointed out Favre is a lowlife and he likes Trump. I expressed the other side of the argument, it's all I ever do. You're the one who takes it personally. Like right here, saying I was 'yelling at you.' Anyone can find that thread and see I wasn't yelling at you. I was disagreeing with you. 3. I didn't say you were obsessed with me, that's my whole point. You have serious comprehension issues. I said you were expressing an opinion, just like me. The difference is, in your mind, anyone who disagrees with you is obsessed with you. 4. Here you go putting words in my mouth. I never said there are no colleges in red states. You politicized colleges, and I said the colleges are in the overwhelmingly blue areas (not entire states by the way) on the map due to the expanded perspective granted by an influx of ideas from diverse backgrounds. I'm not from Springfield by the way, I'm originally from a small town without much diversity at all. If you'd ever been to Springfield, you'd see how diverse it actually is. (That's always been your problem, tunnel vision. "Nobody in the liquor store I work in is sick, this whole covid thing is fake.") Anyway, what does my background have to do with anything? I've already admitted to being the whitest white man in America and I loathe Trump. 5. You're suggesting Democrats are the establishment when Republicans have the presidency and the senate, and the President is a real estate mogul with his name plastered on buildings all over the world. How is Trump not the establishment? Hope this clears up any confusion. Truth be told, it's clear you just don't read my posts. I said three times that Red Auerbach was a genius, but I'd argue Russell had more of an impact as a player than Red did as a coach. Three times you came back with, "So Red was completely useless, whatever you say Ray Ray!" You wonder why the other guy blocked you, because he knows debating with you is a lost cause because you won't even listen to the other side of the argument, much less spend time constructing a proper argument of your own. This is why you think I'm obsessed with you, because I'm one of the few people here that bothers to engage with you at all. Honestly I was surprised you didn't come back with the 'Ray Cuckold' stuff or tell me about how you're in my head for the 500th time. I suppose it's only a matter of time, though. Point by point? Okay. 1. I said you ignored me for 3 pages. You see, Ray Ray, that's called sarcasm. Me saying you ignored me, while also pointing out that you did it for 3 pages. That is something that is called sarcasm. Your pinhead brain has a hard time figuring that out? That's your problem. 2. When I say you're "yelling at me", do you really think that I think you were actually yelling at me? See point above. 3. Who ever said I was obsessed with you? It's the other way, at least based on who responds to who in these threads. A basic scan of many of these threads where we have our many disagreements will show that it is almost always you who is responding to something I said, or an opinion I stated. Very rarely do I make the first volley in our back and forths. 4. You're right on this one. I was wrong about Springfield and should not have brought that up. That is my bad. 5. If you think the Presidency and having control of the Senate is considered the establishment, you're not paying attention. The establishment that I speak of is the fact that the Democrats pretty much dominate the fields of academics, media, and entertainment. If you deny this, sorry but you sound stupid. For young adults, who are usually swayed by what a professor might say, or an actor or athlete might say, or what a news anchor might say, those areas are far more of an establishment than anything coming from Washington DC. And don't talk to me about Red Auerbach, you said he couldn't win without Bill Russell, I didn't. Don't rearrange the argument just because you got called out on your stupidity. And you are obsessed. That's why you never fail to try to get an argument going. I've seen others make points on varying subjects that are similar to mine, with nary a peep from you. Yet if I say something you disagree with, you're right there to start things up. And let's not forget that you have flat out copied my jokes on here. I've restrained from pointing it out when you've done it, but I won't anymore, so come up with your own material from here on in, thanks.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 7, 2020 5:03:16 GMT
Biden just took the lead in Pennsylvania You're welcome America -Philadelphia
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Post by wolf359 on Nov 7, 2020 8:13:23 GMT
If the U.S. Supreme Court gets involved then they will give the Election to Trump regardless of whether his team has evidence of voter fraud or not.
I really hope that they will stay out of it but I don't think that they will.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Nov 7, 2020 8:41:43 GMT
If the U.S. Supreme Court gets involved then they will give the Election to Trump regardless of whether his team has evidence of voter fraud or not.
I really hope that they will stay out of it but I don't think that they will.
You really need to stop worrying about this stuff mate. To overturn an election result, the legal team would need to prove (not opine but present hard evidence) not just that voter fraud happened, but that it occurred on a large enough scale to change the result of electoral college votes in individual states (so in tens and hundreds of thousands). It ain't going to happen. Best case for Trump is the SC finds that voter fraud occurred and he can go around the rest of his life saying it cost him the election. There is barely even miniscule probability that even a finding of voter fraud will overturn the election result. So relax.
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Post by wolf359 on Nov 7, 2020 9:52:44 GMT
If the U.S. Supreme Court gets involved then they will give the Election to Trump regardless of whether his team has evidence of voter fraud or not.
I really hope that they will stay out of it but I don't think that they will.
You really need to stop worrying about this stuff mate. To overturn an election result, the legal team would need to prove (not opine but present hard evidence) not just that voter fraud happened, but that it occurred on a large enough scale to change the result of electoral college votes in individual states (so in tens and hundreds of thousands). It ain't going to happen. Best case for Trump is the SC finds that voter fraud occurred and he can go around the rest of his life saying it cost him the election. There is barely even miniscule probability that even a finding of voter fraud will overturn the election result. So relax.
I really hope that you are right but I have just got a bad feeling that the U.S. Supreme Court is going to get involved.
I really want them to just stay out of it.
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