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Post by Schwarzwald Magnus on Nov 5, 2020 18:22:55 GMT
It's an ignorant tribal dance with no relevance in the 21st century. There's nothing racist about saying that. I was a bit hypocritical in posting the title like I did, but it's a nice piece of their culture.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 5, 2020 18:26:37 GMT
Schwarzwald Magnus I've been watching the Videos that come up when the OP one is watched.. they are addictive ! In the NZ vs Australia game ... both National Anthems are sung .. the NZ song is sung first in Maori and then in English... followed by the Haka ! I would like to know what the words translate to !
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Post by gameboy on Nov 5, 2020 18:33:52 GMT
It's an ignorant tribal dance with no relevance in the 21st century. There's nothing racist about saying that. I was a bit hypocritical in posting the title like I did, but it's a nice piece of their culture. Oh, your title is fine. Forgive me for being kinda cranky. But that Maori "haka" chant has always annoyed me.
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Post by mystery on Nov 5, 2020 18:44:09 GMT
Schwarzwald Magnus I've been watching the Videos that come up when the OP one is watched.. they are addictive ! In the NZ vs Australia game ... both National Anthems are sung .. the NZ song is sung first in Maori and then in English... followed by the Haka ! I would like to know what the words translate to ! |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 5, 2020 19:41:51 GMT
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 5, 2020 19:47:22 GMT
Who won the game?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 6, 2020 0:25:04 GMT
A wardance for warmongers and it is now used for base hype only to represent NZ culture. Yeah, pretty backwoods if you ask me. It's one of the ugliest displays of aggression I've seen from any culture on earth. Why am I not surprised the British conquered the ignorant Maori? I grew up in NZ gamey. I was surrounded by this and while I accepted it for what it was at the time and as a kid the Haka was a fun thing to do, it is not a cultural aspect of the Maori people that I personally feel is worth preserving. The Maori are not even indigenous to NZ, as the aboriginal are to Oz. There were people on the islands called the Moriori prior to the Maori peoples settling, who were Poly ancestry, related to the Maori and so much more peaceful apparently. The Maori decimated them link and also hunted the Moa bird to extinction. Maori Genocide
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 6, 2020 0:27:21 GMT
It's an ignorant tribal dance with no relevance in the 21st century. There's nothing racist about saying that. I was a bit hypocritical in posting the title like I did, but it's a nice piece of their culture. Nice!  Its more parody than anything.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 6, 2020 1:30:52 GMT
It's one of the ugliest displays of aggression I've seen from any culture on earth. Why am I not surprised the British conquered the ignorant Maori? I grew up in NZ gamey. I was surrounded by this and while I accepted it for what it was at the time and as a kid the Haka was a fun thing to do, it is not a cultural aspect of the Maori people that I personally feel is worth preserving. The Maori are not even indigenous to NZ, as the aboriginal are to Oz. There were people on the islands called the Moriori prior to the Maori peoples settling, who were Poly ancestry, related to the Maori and so much more peaceful apparently. The Maori decimated them link and also hunted the Moa bird to extinction. Maori Genocide
So they’re like the English then. The Britons were driven out by the Angles and Saxons (and all the other Germanic tribes) who then settled down and became the natives of the land.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 6, 2020 1:42:42 GMT
Indigenous people all over the world are becoming PROUD of their heritage and celebrating it. I never saw a Haka before and am getting a kick out of seeing all the variations on the theme ! May even be inspired to watch a Rugby game !  |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 6, 2020 1:47:29 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 6, 2020 1:51:06 GMT
I grew up in NZ gamey. I was surrounded by this and while I accepted it for what it was at the time and as a kid the Haka was a fun thing to do, it is not a cultural aspect of the Maori people that I personally feel is worth preserving. The Maori are not even indigenous to NZ, as the aboriginal are to Oz. There were people on the islands called the Moriori prior to the Maori peoples settling, who were Poly ancestry, related to the Maori and so much more peaceful apparently. The Maori decimated them link and also hunted the Moa bird to extinction. Maori Genocide
So they’re like the English then. The Britons were driven out by the Angles and Saxons (and all the other Germanic tribes) who then settled down and became the natives of the land. It is in the manner of taking. It all reflects one another. A relatively peaceful people, were the Britons though?, are overthrown by a belligerent people as in all tribal warfare. The English came and took over NZ and a settlement war began with the Maori. I guess it was karma for the Maori, who are still claiming land ownership rights, yet while they were there before the English, they weren't native to the land.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 6, 2020 2:10:18 GMT
Origins The Maori meaning people of the land, are one of the native peoples of Polynesia, that inhabit the islands of New Zealand. Modern research has concluded that the distant ancestors of all Polynesian people are the indigenous aboriginals of Taiwan. In ancient times, speculated to be around 5.200 B.C these people had begun an epic journey, beginning from Taiwan, heading toward South Asia, island hopping for many years before finally reaching their new homes, and settling in New Zealand, Hawaii, Samoa, Cook Islands, Easter Island and the rest of the smaller islands scattered around the Pacific Ocean. First arrivals of people on New Zealand dates back to 1280 A.D as archeological evidence provide us with the first settlements being erected around this time. According to the Maori, they had in their Great Fleet, measuring somewhere between 40 waka, or large canoes. continued at History of the Mauri People
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Post by gameboy on Nov 6, 2020 3:35:30 GMT
It's one of the ugliest displays of aggression I've seen from any culture on earth. Why am I not surprised the British conquered the ignorant Maori? I grew up in NZ gamey. I was surrounded by this and while I accepted it for what it was at the time and as a kid the Haka was a fun thing to do, it is not a cultural aspect of the Maori people that I personally feel is worth preserving. The Maori are not even indigenous to NZ, as the aboriginal are to Oz. There were people on the islands called the Moriori prior to the Maori peoples settling, who were Poly ancestry, related to the Maori and so much more peaceful apparently. The Maori decimated them link and also hunted the Moa bird to extinction. Maori Genocide
Yikes!!! 
I almost forgot you are a New Zealander.
I'd be curious to know what happened to the eunuchs and how they were integrated into Moriori society. Was there a "third sex"?
As for that haka nonsense, I'm sure it's been hyped for all its cheesy arrogance by Western media. Seriously though, thank god for the British Empire.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Nov 6, 2020 3:56:15 GMT
"How did they install a rugby field in the middle of my neighborhood overnight?"
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Post by marianne48 on Nov 6, 2020 4:09:23 GMT
A wardance for warmongers and it is now used for base hype only to represent NZ culture. Yeah, pretty backwoods if you ask me. It's one of the ugliest displays of aggression I've seen from any culture on earth. Why am I not surprised the British conquered the ignorant Maori? You haven't seen any Trump rallies, I'm guessing. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 6, 2020 4:13:50 GMT
I grew up in NZ gamey. I was surrounded by this and while I accepted it for what it was at the time and as a kid the Haka was a fun thing to do, it is not a cultural aspect of the Maori people that I personally feel is worth preserving. The Maori are not even indigenous to NZ, as the aboriginal are to Oz. There were people on the islands called the Moriori prior to the Maori peoples settling, who were Poly ancestry, related to the Maori and so much more peaceful apparently. The Maori decimated them link and also hunted the Moa bird to extinction. Maori Genocide
Yikes!!!
I almost forgot you are a New Zealander.
I'd be curious to know what happened to the eunuchs and how they were integrated into Moriori society. Was there a "third sex"?
As for that haka nonsense, I'm sure it's been hyped for all its cheesy arrogance by Western media. Seriously though, thank god for the British Empire.
Despite all its shortcomings, the Brits did also offer a lot around the world.
I'd say they may have castrated the more alpha of the males, or unruly boys. They would need some for pro-creation.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 6, 2020 7:15:14 GMT
I am not sure what people's problems here are. The dance is what it and so is the culture.
I think people here are being hypocrites. As if any culture doesn't have stuff that every other culture finds silly or annoying, including stuff about their own culture.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 6, 2020 7:28:43 GMT
Love the haka! I think it's great to see a people keeping their traditions alive. Every time I see one, which is often since I love watching them perform it, it gives me goosebumps.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 6, 2020 7:30:56 GMT
Love the haka! I think it's great to see a people keeping their traditions alive. Every time I see one, which is often since I love watching them perform it, it gives me goosebumps. I've been reading the comments with the videos .... that seems to be a very common reaction ! That and feelings of lumps in throats !
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