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Post by mstreepsucks on Nov 9, 2020 21:08:28 GMT
Anyone else confused by this one? Hard to tell what was happening during the london scenes, in other words the majority of the film. Seems like there were scenes missing.
I haven't seen the spanish version of it.
It's still good though.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 9, 2020 22:59:27 GMT
No for me. I’ve called Dracula ’31 dreamlike, and it is, but I’ve never found it confusing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 23:05:50 GMT
I’d be curious to know which parts you find confusing.
Personally I love this movie. Every time I watch it it climbs my lists of all time favorites. I now consider it to be my favorite horror movie
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Post by politicidal on Nov 9, 2020 23:41:14 GMT
Which scenes threw you off?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 10, 2020 12:46:29 GMT
Anyone else confused by this one? Hard to tell what was happening during the london scenes, in other words the majority of the film. Seems like there were scenes missing.
I haven't seen the spanish version of it.
It's still good though.
no
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 10, 2020 20:29:45 GMT
I've seen it countless times since I was a kid and never found it confusing.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Nov 10, 2020 20:50:55 GMT
I’d be curious to know which parts you find confusing. Personally I love this movie. Every time I watch it it climbs my lists of all time favorites. I now consider it to be my favorite horror movie WEll for one thing the crazy person. Was'nt sure where he came from. Or if he is the same person that went to dracula's house in the beginning. I don't really know but in a couple months i'll watch it again and see what i missed.
Not sure when some of the female victims were killed. Or which ones.
Not sure what dracula was up to when he moved from his original mansion to london. Or why he did that.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 10, 2020 21:00:45 GMT
I’d be curious to know which parts you find confusing. Personally I love this movie. Every time I watch it it climbs my lists of all time favorites. I now consider it to be my favorite horror movie WEll for one thing the crazy person. Was'nt sure where he came from. Or if he is the same person that went to dracula's house in the beginning. I don't really know but in a couple months i'll watch it again and see what i missed.
Not sure when some of the female victims were killed. Or which ones.
Not sure what dracula was up to when he moved from his original mansion to london. Or why he did that.
In order: 1. Yes. 2. First female victim is the flower girl. Second is Lucy (the girl who gives the “as though the dead were there” quotation in the ballet scene). Third is Mina (the heroine), who survives. 3. I don’t think it’s explicitly said here, but the implication (from the dialogue about “the lease on Carfax Abbey”) is that Dracula’s expanding his reign of terror from Transylvania to metropolitan London. The book, and most other adaptations, say it explicitly.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 10, 2020 21:04:10 GMT
I should note that one thing that may confuse viewers is that vampire-Lucy’s never staked. The script and Spanish version make reference to the staking, but the English version leaves her wandering the night, looking for more victims. That plot hole is probably unintentional (though I’ve never been sure why someone removed the reference), but it’s also pretty creepy now that I think of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 21:22:56 GMT
I should note that one thing that may confuse viewers is that vampire-Lucy’s never staked. The script and Spanish version make reference to the staking, but the English version leaves her wandering the night, looking for more victims. That plot hole is probably unintentional (though I’ve never been sure why someone removed the reference), but it’s also pretty creepy now that I think of it. I always assumed that confirming that Van Helsing killed Lucy would’ve been deemed too disturbing for audiences at that time- even though he was technically saving her. This part is actually extremely grisly in the novel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 21:24:47 GMT
I’d be curious to know which parts you find confusing. Personally I love this movie. Every time I watch it it climbs my lists of all time favorites. I now consider it to be my favorite horror movie WEll for one thing the crazy person. Was'nt sure where he came from. Or if he is the same person that went to dracula's house in the beginning. I don't really know but in a couple months i'll watch it again and see what i missed.
Not sure when some of the female victims were killed. Or which ones.
Not sure what dracula was up to when he moved from his original mansion to london. Or why he did that.
I suppose I could see how some of this might be hard to follow. I admit I went into the movie having read the novel so I kind of filled a lot of the missing parts in with that knowledge.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 10, 2020 22:18:06 GMT
I should note that one thing that may confuse viewers is that vampire-Lucy’s never staked. The script and Spanish version make reference to the staking, but the English version leaves her wandering the night, looking for more victims. That plot hole is probably unintentional (though I’ve never been sure why someone removed the reference), but it’s also pretty creepy now that I think of it. I always assumed that confirming that Van Helsing killed Lucy would’ve been deemed too disturbing for audiences at that time- even though he was technically saving her. This part is actually extremely grisly in the novel. You may be right, though I’m surprised the Spanish version kept it. Which adaptations kept the grisliness, I wonder? The Hammer one has the stake going in. Coppola’s is pretty bloody. I still wish there were a faithful book adaptation out there, but every version changes something…
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Post by claudius on Nov 10, 2020 22:26:08 GMT
Count Dracula BBC 1977 also had a rather graphic Lucy staking. It had Van Helsing speaking the holy words, Lucy screaming, and the sight of Lucy’s look of peace, etc.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 10, 2020 22:28:17 GMT
Count Dracula BBC 1977 also had a rather graphic Lucy staking. True. I should have mentioned that first; in many ways it’s my favorite adaptation.
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 10, 2020 22:37:39 GMT
I just find it slow and Dracula not very spooky compared to his appearance in Abbott and Costello.
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Post by Isapop on Nov 10, 2020 23:31:41 GMT
It's terribly anticlimactic and unsatisfying to have Dracula's death off screen.
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Post by novastar6 on Nov 11, 2020 1:17:21 GMT
I should note that one thing that may confuse viewers is that vampire-Lucy’s never staked. The script and Spanish version make reference to the staking, but the English version leaves her wandering the night, looking for more victims. That plot hole is probably unintentional (though I’ve never been sure why someone removed the reference), but it’s also pretty creepy now that I think of it. I always assumed that confirming that Van Helsing killed Lucy would’ve been deemed too disturbing for audiences at that time- even though he was technically saving her. This part is actually extremely grisly in the novel.
Every movie version also forgets that Dracula wasn't merely staked to kill him, his head was also cut off.
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Post by novastar6 on Nov 11, 2020 1:18:19 GMT
Confusing maybe isn't the right word, but for me personally, it requires many re-viewings to actually put everything together, because everything you know if you read the book, none of that's here, you find a more canonical story in Nosferatu than in the actual Dracula.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 11, 2020 1:27:20 GMT
I saw it several times and never paid any attention to the armadillos and possums until someone on IMDb (probably Doghouse6 or hobnob  ) pointed them out !   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2020 2:31:51 GMT
I just find it slow and Dracula not very spooky compared to his appearance in Abbott and Costello. I have to disagree. I love the pacing and find Dracula to be the spookiest spookster of all the spooky spooks that ever spooked. But to each his own.
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) pointed them out !