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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 17, 2020 16:29:48 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 17, 2020 17:55:05 GMT
- Homer Simpson – Season 04, “Homer the Heretic”
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Post by drystyx on Nov 17, 2020 17:55:07 GMT
I'm glad you admit that. I'd hate to see you rile up the real God who would snort at you and make you go to Hell just for being one of them there haters that like to start trouble where there is no trouble. Glad you're smarter than those gravy makers. It wouldn't be Heaven with all that gravy up there. That belongs down there.
You probably know that the emperor Constantine was multi tasking in worship. He sacrificed and prayed to every God that could be named, just to get the right one. A forerunner of the modern man in that respect. He picked Christianity because at the time, the cardinals and other Christians were not nearly as vicious as those in other factions. Like his army, he leaned toward Arianism, so the Christians were very brave and defying death, to make their declarations at the Council, knowing it would upset the army and the emperor to a great extent.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 17, 2020 18:22:03 GMT
Which is why Pascal's Wager is utterly useless
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 17, 2020 18:27:26 GMT
Thank you for that. I'll take my chances.  |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 19:20:18 GMT
Luck had nothing to do with it.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 17, 2020 19:31:54 GMT
Luck had nothing to do with it. So your soul got the special treatment of being born into the only true religion based on what?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 19:33:18 GMT
Luck had nothing to do with it. So your soul got the special treatment of being born into the only true religion based on what? I wasn't born into my religion. You might as well say a stork delivered me too.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 17, 2020 19:34:16 GMT
So your soul got the special treatment of being born into the only true religion based on what? I wasn't born into my religion. You might as well say a stork delivered me too. So how did you get religion?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 20:05:27 GMT
I wasn't born into my religion. You might as well say a stork delivered me too. So how did you get religion? I picked it and learned it and agreed with it. Not necessarily saying you do this but it's fairly routine for the non-religious to have this ongoing thing about how indoctrination is crucial to religion as opposed to the easier and more logical solution that people like being religious.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 17, 2020 20:09:45 GMT
I wasn't born into my religion. BUT ... most folks are "born into" their religions. A comparative few actually "pick one off the shelf" (so to speak).  imo, a preferred method, btw.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 17, 2020 20:13:32 GMT
So how did you get religion? I picked it and learned it and agreed with it. Not necessarily saying you do this but it's fairly routine for the non-religious to have this ongoing thing about how indoctrination is crucial to religion as opposed to the easier and more logical solution that people like being religious. Which religion did you chose?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 20:13:32 GMT
I wasn't born into my religion. BUT ... most folks are "born into" their religions. A comparative few actually "pick one off the shelf" (so to speak). imo, a preferred method, btw. Even if true (Although it would still be far from 100%. Religion has churn just like everything else) they aren't held there by hypnosis or "luck", but rather by desire.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 20:14:40 GMT
I picked it and learned it and agreed with it. Not necessarily saying you do this but it's fairly routine for the non-religious to have this ongoing thing about how indoctrination is crucial to religion as opposed to the easier and more logical solution that people like being religious. Which religion did you chose? I don;t get in the weeds of my particular religion since it isn't important. It's non-denominational and different than where my parents made me go.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 17, 2020 20:15:08 GMT
BUT ... most folks are "born into" their religions. A comparative few actually "pick one off the shelf" (so to speak). imo, a preferred method, btw. Even if true (Although it would still be far from 100%. Religion has churn just like everything else) they aren't held there by hypnosis or "luck", but rather by desire. or habit or family or peer pressure.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 17, 2020 20:18:16 GMT
Even if true (Although it would still be far from 100%. Religion has churn just like everything else) they aren't held there by hypnosis or "luck", but rather by desire. or habit or family or peer pressure. Habit and family are perfectly good reasons to be religious. One man's peer pressure is another man's sense of community.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 17, 2020 20:26:51 GMT
CoolJGS☺ Many "religious" people go to church for the social and the community aspects ... actual religiosity is just the excuse to get together.
Hopefully this is not turning into a  . it was not intended to do that. I was agreeing with your "choosing" a religion rather than blindly going along with a "born into" one purely by habit.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 17, 2020 20:27:50 GMT
Which religion did you chose? I don;t get in the weeds of my particular religion since it isn't important. It's non-denominational and different than where my parents made me go. But it’s Christian, I’m assuming.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Nov 17, 2020 20:30:39 GMT
CoolJGS☺ Many "religious" people go to church for the social and the community aspects ... actual religiosity is just the excuse to get together.
Hopefully this is not turning into a . it was not intended to do that. I was agreeing with your "choosing" a religion rather than blindly going along with a "born into" one purely by habit. In Evangelicalism, most people are not actually considered Christian until they answer an altar call and make a public profession of faith, even though they may have been to church every Sunday of their life until that point.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 17, 2020 20:40:54 GMT
CoolJGS☺ Many "religious" people go to church for the social and the community aspects ... actual religiosity is just the excuse to get together. In Evangelicalism, most people are not actually considered Christian until they answer an altar call and make a public profession of faith, even though they may have been to church every Sunday of their life until that point. and many of them do that because they don't want to not do it for social or family reasons.
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