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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 19, 2020 16:22:27 GMT
Its 2020 and people and there are still people who belive in made up beings. There will pretty much always be people who believe in riddiculous, made up things (magic, witches, leprechauns, ghosts, trickle down economics)
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 19, 2020 21:07:52 GMT
You'll notice that theists love to throw out insults instead of substantiation. The truth hurts? What do you think I failed to "substantiate"? Your "proof" of an abstract God is that one sees people going in and out of church. When I compared that to an abstract "proof" of Santa Claus because people go in and out of Macy's every December, your response was just a snide comment. When I asked you to "point me to evidence of an abstract and nebulous force in nature and society so that I may comprehend them." all you said was, "Haven't I already?" When I responded, "If you had, I wouldn't be asking", all you said was "Not necessarily true". Again, assertions without evidence. When you said, "You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way.", that was just another insult without substantiation. If you go to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, I assume the definition of "abstract" that you use is "insufficiently factual" as you have no facts to support your claim(s). If all you have is the concept of Jehovah, then count me in. I also have a concept of Yeti, Loch Ness, and the Tooth Fairy.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 22:04:28 GMT
Some scholarly people believe the commandment to "Honor your father and mother" meant that for example a child of Muslim parents (much later of course) should follow the traditions of his parents insofar as they were not violating essential prohibitions of Judaism. In other words if a child has to ask which god to follow the answer is to do what his parents tell him even if they are not considered Jews. It's too bad your parents can't help you with this dilemma. What is confusing you of course is you incapacity to follow abstract ideas. You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way. I always love it when strangers on the internet tells me things about me like they know me on a personal level in real life. Don`t make assumptions, you don`t actually know me. To whom it may concern then wondering about which god. You're right, you are more civil than may other atheists. I'm sorry to throw you in with them.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 22:54:34 GMT
The truth hurts? What do you think I failed to "substantiate"? Your "proof" of an abstract God is that one sees people going in and out of church. When I compared that to an abstract "proof" of Santa Claus because people go in and out of Macy's every December, your response was just a snide comment. When I asked you to "point me to evidence of an abstract and nebulous force in nature and society so that I may comprehend them." all you said was, "Haven't I already?" When I responded, "If you had, I wouldn't be asking", all you said was "Not necessarily true". Again, assertions without evidence. When you said, "You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way.", that was just another insult without substantiation. If you go to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, I assume the definition of "abstract" that you use is "insufficiently factual" as you have no facts to support your claim(s). If all you have is the concept of Jehovah, then count me in. I also have a concept of Yeti, Loch Ness, and the Tooth Fairy. There is a sort of arrogance in pretending there is nothing over your head. Abstract ideas are like the color green to a blind person. There is no way to literally describe green to a person blind from birth. Go ahead. Try it. By a similar circumstance there is no way to describe all the aspects of a "god" no matter how talented I am (just kidding). If you still don't get it the problem is on your end.
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