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Post by maya55555 on Nov 17, 2020 23:38:09 GMT
sounds like gibberish. Why would Caesar even concern himself with Christianity? It was not the main religion of the Jews or his people. It's worse than that. Julius Caesar died forty-four years before Christ was born. Well, this proves to the "intellectuals" of the board, that facts of a 40+ year difference, mean nothing.
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Post by clusium on Nov 17, 2020 23:54:28 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one. Yup. 
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 18, 2020 1:36:18 GMT
sounds like gibberish. Why would Caesar even concern himself with Christianity? It was not the main religion of the Jews or his people. It's worse than that. Julius Caesar died forty-four years before Christ was born. You missed the point (although it was oh-so subtle): If Christianity was the one TRUE religion, then Jehovah would have allowed Julius to partake. How? By having Jesus live before Caesar, Julius could be born again, just like today's Christians. If Jesus died for my sins, he should have died for Caesar's as well.
Why didn't Jehovah send Jesus to Earth so that Moses could be a Christian as well as Caesar?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2020 1:41:44 GMT
It's worse than that. Julius Caesar died forty-four years before Christ was born. You missed the point (although it was oh-so subtle): If Christianity was the one TRUE religion, then Jehovah would have allowed Julius to partake. How? By having Jesus live before Caesar, Julius could be born again, just like today's Christians. If Jesus died for my sins, he should have died for Caesar's as well.
Why didn't Jehovah send Jesus to Earth so that Moses could be a Christian as well as Caesar?
I don't know. Why don't you ask Him?
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 18, 2020 13:33:44 GMT
You missed the point (although it was oh-so subtle): If Christianity was the one TRUE religion, then Jehovah would have allowed Julius to partake. How? By having Jesus live before Caesar, Julius could be born again, just like today's Christians. If Jesus died for my sins, he should have died for Caesar's as well.
Why didn't Jehovah send Jesus to Earth so that Moses could be a Christian as well as Caesar?
I don't know. Why don't you ask Him? Could you ask him for me and post the answer here. Yahweh has me on ignore. He hasn't answered any of my questions or prayers in 53 years.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Nov 19, 2020 12:18:40 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one. The notion that one most often adopts the religion and beliefs of the surrounding culture, rather than assessing truths from all options, can be quickly borne out by looking at a religious map of the world showing where faiths predominate. If a person's belief system was really an open choice ultimately dictated by the more convincing arguments of any faith out of many, the map would inevitably be far more speckled. As it we can see the world is still largely divided into massive blocks, albeit with some overlapping.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 13:41:16 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one. Some scholarly people believe the commandment to "Honor your father and mother" meant that for example a child of Muslim parents (much later of course) should follow the traditions of his parents insofar as they were not violating essential prohibitions of Judaism. In other words if a child has to ask which god to follow the answer is to do what his parents tell him even if they are not considered Jews. It's too bad your parents can't help you with this dilemma. What is confusing you of course is you incapacity to follow abstract ideas. You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 19, 2020 13:52:07 GMT
... What is confusing you of course is you incapacity to follow abstract ideas. You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way. What is confusing you of course is your incapacity to follow reality. You'll notice that theists throw insults rather than substantiation.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 13:54:38 GMT
... You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way. You'll notice that theists love to throw out insults instead of substantiation. The truth hurts? What do you think I failed to "substantiate"?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2020 14:04:37 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one. The notion that one most often adopts the religion and beliefs of the surrounding culture, rather than assessing truths from all options, can be quickly borne out by looking at a religious map of the world showing where faiths predominate. If a person's belief system was really an open choice ultimately dictated by the more convincing arguments of any faith out of many, the map would inevitably be far more speckled. As it we can see the world is still largely divided into massive blocks, albeit with some overlapping. Thank you Captain obvious
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2020 14:06:51 GMT
Its lucky that the God you belive in just happen to be the correct one. Some scholarly people believe the commandment to "Honor your father and mother" meant that for example a child of Muslim parents (much later of course) should follow the traditions of his parents insofar as they were not violating essential prohibitions of Judaism. In other words if a child has to ask which god to follow the answer is to do what his parents tell him even if they are not considered Jews. It's too bad your parents can't help you with this dilemma. What is confusing you of course is you incapacity to follow abstract ideas. You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way. I always love it when strangers on the internet tells me things about me like they know me on a personal level in real life. Don`t make assumptions, you don`t actually know me.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Nov 19, 2020 14:07:22 GMT
The notion that one most often adopts the religion and beliefs of the surrounding culture, rather than assessing truths from all options, can be quickly borne out by looking at a religious map of the world showing where faiths predominate. If a person's belief system was really an open choice ultimately dictated by the more convincing arguments of any faith out of many, the map would inevitably be far more speckled. As it we can see the world is still largely divided into massive blocks, albeit with some overlapping. Thank you Captain obvious Sometimes the obvious needs to be said, it appears.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 19, 2020 15:58:18 GMT
Its 2020 and people and there are still people who belive in made up beings.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 19, 2020 16:22:27 GMT
Its 2020 and people and there are still people who belive in made up beings. There will pretty much always be people who believe in riddiculous, made up things (magic, witches, leprechauns, ghosts, trickle down economics)
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Post by Rodney Farber on Nov 19, 2020 21:07:52 GMT
You'll notice that theists love to throw out insults instead of substantiation. The truth hurts? What do you think I failed to "substantiate"? Your "proof" of an abstract God is that one sees people going in and out of church. When I compared that to an abstract "proof" of Santa Claus because people go in and out of Macy's every December, your response was just a snide comment. When I asked you to "point me to evidence of an abstract and nebulous force in nature and society so that I may comprehend them." all you said was, "Haven't I already?" When I responded, "If you had, I wouldn't be asking", all you said was "Not necessarily true". Again, assertions without evidence. When you said, "You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way.", that was just another insult without substantiation. If you go to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, I assume the definition of "abstract" that you use is "insufficiently factual" as you have no facts to support your claim(s). If all you have is the concept of Jehovah, then count me in. I also have a concept of Yeti, Loch Ness, and the Tooth Fairy.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 22:04:28 GMT
Some scholarly people believe the commandment to "Honor your father and mother" meant that for example a child of Muslim parents (much later of course) should follow the traditions of his parents insofar as they were not violating essential prohibitions of Judaism. In other words if a child has to ask which god to follow the answer is to do what his parents tell him even if they are not considered Jews. It's too bad your parents can't help you with this dilemma. What is confusing you of course is you incapacity to follow abstract ideas. You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way. I always love it when strangers on the internet tells me things about me like they know me on a personal level in real life. Don`t make assumptions, you don`t actually know me. To whom it may concern then wondering about which god. You're right, you are more civil than may other atheists. I'm sorry to throw you in with them.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 19, 2020 22:54:34 GMT
The truth hurts? What do you think I failed to "substantiate"? Your "proof" of an abstract God is that one sees people going in and out of church. When I compared that to an abstract "proof" of Santa Claus because people go in and out of Macy's every December, your response was just a snide comment. When I asked you to "point me to evidence of an abstract and nebulous force in nature and society so that I may comprehend them." all you said was, "Haven't I already?" When I responded, "If you had, I wouldn't be asking", all you said was "Not necessarily true". Again, assertions without evidence. When you said, "You'll notice that atheists are often dull witted, pedestrian and artless that way.", that was just another insult without substantiation. If you go to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, I assume the definition of "abstract" that you use is "insufficiently factual" as you have no facts to support your claim(s). If all you have is the concept of Jehovah, then count me in. I also have a concept of Yeti, Loch Ness, and the Tooth Fairy. There is a sort of arrogance in pretending there is nothing over your head. Abstract ideas are like the color green to a blind person. There is no way to literally describe green to a person blind from birth. Go ahead. Try it. By a similar circumstance there is no way to describe all the aspects of a "god" no matter how talented I am (just kidding). If you still don't get it the problem is on your end.
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