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Post by moviemouth on Nov 20, 2020 1:02:48 GMT
does piss me off" - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Such a bad-ass way of putting it and I share that opinion.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 20, 2020 1:13:17 GMT
When death comes i will welcome him with open arms like an old friend.
I don`t fear death, and it does not piss me of that i am going to die.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 20, 2020 1:25:34 GMT
When death comes i will welcome him with open arms like an old friend. I don`t fear death, and it does not piss me of that i am going to die. I will not welcome it with open arms, but I will be more or less at peace with it. In my fantasy world me and my family and the people I am close to outside my family would live as long as they wanted to and would be allowed to end that life whenever they felt like it was becoming boring, or rather put into a sleep mode for however many years and then re-awakened again when they wanted to "come back to life."
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Post by Aj_June on Nov 21, 2020 23:10:29 GMT
My opinion and not based on any fact but only my beliefs - Most people fear death but because they don't have control over death and because they can't escape death just lie that they don't fear death. I do love to live forever. I fear death.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 21, 2020 23:20:32 GMT
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Post by novastar6 on Nov 21, 2020 23:23:20 GMT
The other day my brother was thinking of some funny sayings to put on tombstones, one of them was "I'm not dead, I'm just resting". I said "THAT would be the one to have in a zombie movie."
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 21, 2020 23:29:03 GMT
My opinion and not based on any fact but only my beliefs - Most people fear death but because they don't have control over death and because they can't escape death just lie that they don't fear death. I do love to live forever. I fear death. I don't want to live forever. That sounds awful. I don't fear death (not because I am cool or something) but because I am just bored of life and don't have a very happy life. For someone who loves life and is happy about it then they will fear death moreso. “death is nothing to us.” When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain. The fear of death arises from the belief that in death, there is awareness." - Epicurus
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 22, 2020 10:02:08 GMT
The other day my brother was thinking of some funny sayings to put on tombstones, one of them was "I'm not dead, I'm just resting". I said "THAT would be the one to have in a zombie movie."
Spike Milligan has a good one He had once quipped that he wanted his headstone to bear the words "I told you I was ill." He was buried at St Thomas' churchyard but the Chichester diocese refused to allow this epitaph. A compromise was reached with the Irish translation of "I told you I was ill", Dúirt mé leat go raibh mé breoite. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Milligan
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Post by truecristian on Nov 22, 2020 10:31:53 GMT
Your topic is an insult to a man's intelligence. Even mine
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 22, 2020 10:51:55 GMT
Your topic is an insult to a man's intelligence. Even mine 
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Post by novastar6 on Nov 22, 2020 15:01:42 GMT
The other day my brother was thinking of some funny sayings to put on tombstones, one of them was "I'm not dead, I'm just resting". I said "THAT would be the one to have in a zombie movie."
Spike Milligan has a good one He had once quipped that he wanted his headstone to bear the words "I told you I was ill." He was buried at St Thomas' churchyard but the Chichester diocese refused to allow this epitaph. A compromise was reached with the Irish translation of "I told you I was ill", Dúirt mé leat go raibh mé breoite. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Milligan
I saw a Halloween jigsaw puzzle with something similar, several tombstones are set up by the house the trick or treaters go to and one says 'I told you I didn't feel well!'
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Post by politicidal on Nov 23, 2020 19:45:01 GMT
He's not wrong.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 24, 2020 1:32:32 GMT
When death comes i will welcome him with open arms like an old friend. I don`t fear death, and it does not piss me of that i am going to die.I am neither fearful of death, nor am I pissed off that I am going to die. I'd say that is why there are so many raving lunatics on the planet. They are pissed off because of this exact reason. This is what creates all the sociopaths and psychopaths around us. Narcissism all ties in with this too. Snatch Grab mentality.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 24, 2020 3:32:32 GMT
When death comes i will welcome him with open arms like an old friend. I don`t fear death, and it does not piss me of that i am going to die.I am neither fearful of death, nor am I pissed off that I am going to die. I'd say that is why there are so many raving lunatics on the planet. They are pissed off because of this exact reason. This is what creates all the sociopaths and psychopaths around us. Narcissism all ties in with this too. Snatch Grab mentality. That is just not true. In fact, what is considered the difference between the 2 is that psychopaths are born that way. Of course, this isn't said to be 100% fact. Sociopaths become that way during early childhood for whatever reason. Same goes for narcissists. All 3 would still be just as common if everything else was the same, but we lived for forever. Of course you could make the argument that nobody can say anything about how it would be in we had always lived forever, which obviously wouldn't work given the the amount of space on the planet and that eventually everybody would die once the sun dies anyway.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 24, 2020 3:41:23 GMT
I am neither fearful of death, nor am I pissed off that I am going to die. I'd say that is why there are so many raving lunatics on the planet. They are pissed off because of this exact reason. This is what creates all the sociopaths and psychopaths around us. Narcissism all ties in with this too. Snatch Grab mentality. That is just not true. In fact, what is considered the difference between the 2 is that psychopaths are born that way. Of course, this isn't said to be 100% fact. Sociopaths become that way during early childhood for whatever reason. Same goes for narcissists. All 3 would still be just as common if everything else was the same, but we lived for forever. Of course you could make the argument that nobody can say anything about how it would be in we had always lived forever, which obviously wouldn't work given the the amount of space on the planet and that eventually everybody would die once the sun dies anyway. It is true in relation to anger over dying. That is why death becomes an obsession and also the fear of death in many. It is about wanting to live life and take what one can before one is snuffed out. Nothing is EVER permanent on this planet and NEVER will be. No point even going down the argument route of wanting to live forever and then make the choice to snuff it when one wants too.
As far as I know, all psychopaths are narcissistic. A sociopath learns their behavior out of survival technique and also sense of self and narcissism hovers around all of this, wanting to make it all about them, taking control of what they can, wanting to be the center of attention and are more often than not, the gift that keeps on giving, that nobody wants.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 24, 2020 3:48:32 GMT
That is just not true. In fact, what is considered the difference between the 2 is that psychopaths are born that way. Of course, this isn't said to be 100% fact. Sociopaths become that way during early childhood for whatever reason. Same goes for narcissists. All 3 would still be just as common if everything else was the same, but we lived for forever. Of course you could make the argument that nobody can say anything about how it would be in we had always lived forever, which obviously wouldn't work given the the amount of space on the planet and that eventually everybody would die once the sun dies anyway. It is true in relation to anger over dying. That is why death becomes an obsession and also the fear of death in many. It is about wanting to live life and take what one can before one is snuffed out. Nothing is EVER permanent on this planet and NEVER will be. No point even going down the argument route of wanting to live forever and then make the choice to snuff it when one wants too.
As far as I know, all psychopaths are narcissistic. A sociopath learns their behavior out of survival technique and also sense of self and narcissism hovers around all of this, wanting to make it all about them, taking control of what they can, wanting to be the center of attention and are more often than not, the gift that keeps on giving, that nobody wants.
Agreed, but I don't seen any connection to fear of death in why they are the way they are. Sociopathy is a mental disorder. Fear of death might make some of them act worse, but they would be narcissists whether they feared death or not. It is tied to how their brain was forming during early childhood and there is also a genetic component as well.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 24, 2020 3:58:42 GMT
It is true in relation to anger over dying. That is why death becomes an obsession and also the fear of death in many. It is about wanting to live life and take what one can before one is snuffed out. Nothing is EVER permanent on this planet and NEVER will be. No point even going down the argument route of wanting to live forever and then make the choice to snuff it when one wants too.
As far as I know, all psychopaths are narcissistic. A sociopath learns their behavior out of survival technique and also sense of self and narcissism hovers around all of this, wanting to make it all about them, taking control of what they can, wanting to be the center of attention and are more often than not, the gift that keeps on giving, that nobody wants.
Agreed, but I don't seen any connection to fear of death in why they are the way they are. Sociopathy is a mental disorder. Fear of death might make some of them act worse, but they would be narcissists whether they feared death or not. It is tied to how their brain was forming during early childhood and there is also a genetic component as well. People that fear death will eventually create some form of mind disorder or something. Murdering psychopaths, and will include the military in this, are perhaps so obsessed with death, that is why it is no problem to kill. That is why so many soldiers come back traumatised because they can’t handle it and did what they did for other reasons only known to them.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Nov 24, 2020 4:03:48 GMT
moviemouth this lady appears to know what she is talking about if you haven’t seen before:
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 24, 2020 4:07:57 GMT
Agreed, but I don't seen any connection to fear of death in why they are the way they are. Sociopathy is a mental disorder. Fear of death might make some of them act worse, but they would be narcissists whether they feared death or not. It is tied to how their brain was forming during early childhood and there is also a genetic component as well. People that fear death will eventually create some form of mind disorder or something. Murdering psychopaths, and will include the military in this, are perhaps so obsessed with death, that is why it is no problem to kill. That is why so many soldiers come back traumatised because they can’t handle it and did what they did for other reasons only known to them. I don't see this going anywhere. I just flat out disagree with you and I actually have the sources to back it up. You are misrepresenting the term psychopath. You don't just get to make up your own definitions and run with it. I mean, you can, but I will not take anybody seriously who does. What you are talking about is normal people with a normal functioning brain that do horrible things because of their fears in general and then they will justify this behavior in their mind so that can go on doing these things without a bunch of guilt.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 24, 2020 4:08:17 GMT
moviemouth this lady appears to know what she is talking about if you haven’t seen before: I have seen it and is part of where I got my information. She just confirmed for you that psychopaths are born that way, so that is out for sure. She tied none of it to the fear of death. Her opinion on some of that is at odds with other professionals who study this btw.
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