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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 27, 2020 6:40:08 GMT
I’m not the one that has to prove..... ———- TC, when you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you. What is it that I claimed that I need to prove about a religious image of God?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 27, 2020 7:00:42 GMT
Calling people delusional and worse for their private thoughts is not “questioning” them.
It’s smearing them.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 27, 2020 7:01:59 GMT
I’m not the one that has to prove..... ———- TC, when you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you. What is it that I claimed that I need to prove about a religious image of God? You claim to hold the objective truth without proof. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 27, 2020 12:14:58 GMT
What is it that I claimed that I need to prove about a religious image of God? You claim to hold the objective truth without proof. You are the one that twisted it around into slander. This God thing of religion can neither be argued for nor against and that is the objective and rational truth of the perception regarding a religious image of God. It’s existence and what it might be capable of is pointless argument. There is no, and never will be, evidence of its existence. The belief is only what is seen as real. No belief is real.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 27, 2020 13:00:11 GMT
What is it that I claimed that I need to prove about a religious image of God? You claim to hold the objective truth without proof. Talking of proof, any update on where I specifically "slandered billions of innocent people"?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 27, 2020 13:04:19 GMT
You claim to hold the objective truth without proof. You are the one that twisted it around into slander. This God thing of religion can neither be argued for nor against and that is the objective and rational truth of the perception regarding a religious image of God. It’s existence and what it might be capable of is pointless argument. There is no, and never will be, evidence of its existence. The belief is only what is seen as real. No belief is real. So you admit that the objective proof is that YOU CAN’T PROVE A DAMN THING. Calling people derogatory names for reasons YOU CANNOT PROVE is bullsh*t. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 27, 2020 19:51:48 GMT
You are the one that twisted it around into slander. This God thing of religion can neither be argued for nor against and that is the objective and rational truth of the perception regarding a religious image of God. It’s existence and what it might be capable of is pointless argument. There is no, and never will be, evidence of its existence. The belief is only what is seen as real. No belief is real. So you admit that the objective proof is that YOU CAN’T PROVE A DAMN THING. Calling people derogatory names for reasons YOU CANNOT PROVE is bullsh*t. Way to miss the point regarding belief that can’t be proven. I’m not the believer in a religious designed God. Are you saying now you aren’t? The onus is on any believer to prove their belief as rational. What derogatory names have been called?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 27, 2020 20:17:04 GMT
So you admit that the objective proof is that YOU CAN’T PROVE A DAMN THING. Calling people derogatory names for reasons YOU CANNOT PROVE is bullsh*t. Way to miss the point regarding belief that can’t be proven. I’m not the believer in a religious designed God. Are you saying now you aren’t? The onus is on any believer to prove their belief as rational. What derogatory names have been called? If you state that God doesn’t exist, the burden is on you to prove it. “Irrational”, “delusional”, etc. |
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Post by goz on Dec 27, 2020 20:54:59 GMT
Way to miss the point regarding belief that can’t be proven. I’m not the believer in a religious designed God. Are you saying now you aren’t? The onus is on any believer to prove their belief as rational. What derogatory names have been called? If you state that God doesn’t exist, the burden is on you to prove it. “Irrational”, “delusional”, etc. No, you have completely stuffed up your own argument here with this slander thing. People who accuse others of being slandered by them immediately take the burden of proof on themselves. You would have to prove your God's existence to prove that what people say about it not existing is slanderous. You are not very bright, are you? You should have just stuck to your previous schtick of information about Jews and you don't know what I believe shit!
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 27, 2020 23:50:30 GMT
You are the one that twisted it around into slander. This God thing of religion can neither be argued for nor against and that is the objective and rational truth of the perception regarding a religious image of God. It’s existence and what it might be capable of is pointless argument. There is no, and never will be, evidence of its existence. The belief is only what is seen as real. No belief is real. So you admit that the objective proof is that YOU CAN’T PROVE A DAMN THING. Calling people derogatory names for reasons YOU CANNOT PROVE is bullsh*t. Tell us again why in a free society one cannot criticise the religious beliefs of others?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 4:16:48 GMT
Way to miss the point regarding belief that can’t be proven. I’m not the believer in a religious designed God. Are you saying now you aren’t? The onus is on any believer to prove their belief as rational. What derogatory names have been called? If you state that God doesn’t exist, the burden is on you to prove it. “Irrational”, “delusional”, etc. I’d say the burden of proof is on the believer. What has the non-believer got to prove about someone else’s irrational delusion behind the religious belief, except to point out the fallacies and flaws which isn’t that difficult?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 6:53:28 GMT
If you state that God doesn’t exist, the burden is on you to prove it. “Irrational”, “delusional”, etc. The majority of the human race has believed in a higher power going all the way back to the origins of recorded human history. Extreme hostility can’t change this history and it can’t change what the majority of human beings believe today. No one can prove that these billions and billions of people have been wrong to believe in a higher power for all these thiusands of years. Ramping up the hostility about this changes nothing. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 8:06:20 GMT
Calling people delusional and worse for their private thoughts is not “questioning” them. It’s smearing them. How are thoughts private when religion promotes their beliefs? They smear themselves.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 8:11:21 GMT
The majority of the human race has believed in a higher power going all the way back to the origins of recorded human history. Extreme hostility can’t change this history and it can’t change what the majority of human beings believe today. No one can prove that these billions and billions of people have been wrong to believe in a higher power for all these thiusands of years. Ramping up the hostility about this changes nothing. The belief of a higher power was founded in ignorance over lack of understanding about life and world. The belief of a religious God creates the hostilities of the world. How can it not, it is conflict of mind. These billions and billions are wrongheaded. Religion always has been.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 10:24:06 GMT
The majority of the human race has believed in a higher power going all the way back to the origins of recorded human history. Extreme hostility can’t change this history and it can’t change what the majority of human beings believe today. No one can prove that these billions and billions of people have been wrong to believe in a higher power for all these thiusands of years. Ramping up the hostility about this changes nothing. The belief of a higher power was founded in ignorance over lack of understanding about life and world. The belief of a religious God creates the hostilities of the world. How can it not, it is conflict of mind. These billions and billions are wrongheaded. Religion always has been. A great number of doctors and PhDs believe in a higher power. You aren’t as smart as they are, so I must dismiss what you say about this matter. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 10:30:15 GMT
The belief of a higher power was founded in ignorance over lack of understanding about life and world. The belief of a religious God creates the hostilities of the world. How can it not, it is conflict of mind. These billions and billions are wrongheaded. Religion always has been. A great number of doctors and PhDs believe in a higher power. You aren’t as smart as they are, so I must dismiss what you say about this matter. Then they aren’t as smart as they claim, or you claim. Being a doctor with a PhD is also not evidence or proof of this higher power you only pretend to believe in so you don’t have to provide any yourself.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 10:42:37 GMT
A great number of doctors and PhDs believe in a higher power. You aren’t as smart as they are, so I must dismiss what you say about this matter. Then they aren’t as smart as they claim, or you claim. Being a doctor with a PhD is also not evidence or proof of this higher power you only pretend to believe in so you don’t have to provide any yourself. You can’t prove that these incredibly smart people are wrong to believe in a higher power. You can’t prove they aren’t smart either. You can’t prove anything about this matter. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 11:17:05 GMT
Then they aren’t as smart as they claim, or you claim. Being a doctor with a PhD is also not evidence or proof of this higher power you only pretend to believe in so you don’t have to provide any yourself. You can’t prove that these incredibly smart people are wrong to believe in a higher power. You can’t prove they aren’t smart either. You can’t prove anything about this matter. What it does prove, is that you aren’t being particularly smart at present with your contradictory and asinine responses.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 28, 2020 11:33:30 GMT
You can’t prove that these incredibly smart people are wrong to believe in a higher power. You can’t prove they aren’t smart either. You can’t prove anything about this matter. What it does prove, is that you aren’t being particularly smart at present with your contradictory and asinine responses. You can’t decree that God doesn’t exist and pronounce the entire history of human believers (going back thousands of years) as stupid. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 28, 2020 11:43:12 GMT
What it does prove, is that you aren’t being particularly smart at present with your contradictory and asinine responses. You can’t decree that God doesn’t exist and pronounce the entire history of human believers (going back thousands of years) as stupid. I can do anything I like within the freedom of expressive mind, especially regarding the delusion of religious belief. Do you get a free special pass to decree a religious God does exist for thousands of years of stupidity and then slander those that challenge the stupidity behind the belief?
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