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Post by SciFive on Dec 22, 2020 13:20:07 GMT
How does religion spoil cupcakes?
How does religion spoil a sunset?
How does religion spoil a glass of water?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 22, 2020 13:23:23 GMT
Yes, I know that Thought Police are trying to wage WWIII on thinking.
Human beings are the targets, though, although “everything” is more than just people rebelling by thinking whatever the hell they want.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 22, 2020 13:37:05 GMT
Can you read? This is the thought of the people I cited. How do you know their thoughts and what people are you talking about? Must be because she knows God.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2020 13:39:45 GMT
Mozart was composing his own operas at 6. How many opera composers does anyone think he knew? Well he knew his father Leopold who was a composer but i can`t remember if he was an opera composer or not. So at least 1 composer. As i am not an intelligent man i have to admit i am not sure what you are trying to argue here, It seems to me that you are saying because Mozart was a genius and could compose at the age of 6 that somhow is an argument for God. Of course i could be wrong. Scifive is lying about what I actually said (as usual). My position was that no one truly "thinks for themselves" and all thoughts, ideas are essentialy derived from other thoughts and ideas of other people and environmental factor rather than just "pop" out of nowhere. I noticed she's already been destroyed on the Mozart example she tried to use.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 22, 2020 13:39:50 GMT
Does that mean it's the Jews that believe that the universe created itself out of nothing? Can you read? It’s the Jewish people (Jewish Philosophy) who don’t believe that the universe created itself out of nothing. Everyone else can think what they want to think. Who is everyone else? Those that don't believe in the Jewish philosophy of creation via God, when other religions purport this same notion?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2020 13:42:20 GMT
Christopher Hitchens, Why I Make a Living Being An Asshole Over What People Think (Hint: It Pays Well) Fixed it for him. You realize there's far more money in being a televangelist/religious huckster right?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 22, 2020 13:45:51 GMT
As a self identified scientist, you surely realise that it is 'irrational' to accept a hypothesis without actual evidence to support your claim. The physical and spiritual worlds are not the same. My favorite PhDs in Physics are Orthodox Jews.Therefore biased. Mixing logic with the esoteric will never be seen as rational in the rational peer reviewed scientific fields. Whom are you actually attempting to convince?
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Post by SciFive on Dec 22, 2020 13:46:56 GMT
People are under attack for simply believing.
Billions of people.
These are the targets even when they mind their own business and don’t ask anyone else to believe anything.
They are billions of random innocents.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Dec 22, 2020 13:49:40 GMT
Christopher Hitchens, Why I Make a Living Being An Asshole Over What People Think (Hint: It Pays Well) Fixed it for him. You realize there's far more money in being a televangelist/religious huckster right? As L. Ron Hubbard, a former science fiction writer, said, "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, he'd start his own religion."
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2020 13:49:55 GMT
People can be inspired by things that wouldn’t necessarily have an effect on others. As a child (maybe 11 or so), I heard about a movie or tv show where one man was the only person left alive in NYC after some kind of war or catastrophe. Everyone else had left and died. He turned on the electricity for an apartment he found. I thought, “What if I am the last person left alive and I need electricity? I should know how to turn it on.” I knew I would learn electronics and technology. I did. Yeah, you were inspired by outside environmental factors rather than thoughts that just "popped" out of nowhere. Thanks for making my argument for me.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Dec 22, 2020 13:53:44 GMT
People are under attack for simply believing. Billions of people. These are the targets even when they mind their own business and don’t ask anyone else to believe anything. They are billions of random innocents. Perhaps the belief is hindering the rest of the world and it can't move on because of the irrationality behind it. It still gets projected to keep things humming along with a distracted conundrum and all based around fear of death and need to live on as human in some God form or other.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 22, 2020 13:53:46 GMT
People are under attack for simply believing. Billions of people. These are the targets even when they mind their own business and don’t ask anyone else to believe anything. They are billions of random innocents. Most religious people are under attack by other religious people. And non religious people are actually prosecuted in several countries by religious people.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2020 13:58:20 GMT
Well he knew his father Leopold who was a composer but i can`t remember if he was an opera composer or not. So at least 1 composer. As i am not an intelligent man i have to admit i am not sure what you are trying to argue here, It seems to me that you are saying because Mozart was a genius and could compose at the age of 6 that somhow is an argument for God. Of course i could be wrong. You’re wrong. The subcontext of all this seems to be that humans don’t have brains that permit original thinking. One guy asked us not to think anymore. The anti-religion religion is venturing off into weird places. "The subcontext of all this seems to be that humans don’t have brains that permit original thinking." Uh no, what I actually stated was that I don't think "original thinking" even really exists as all ideas are essentially just derived from something else. That would be like saying humans don't have brains that permit seeing invisible leprechauns. "One guy asked us not to think anymore." Uh no that's not what I said, why do you keep lying? It's almost like you can't refute my actual positions so you have to make stuff up. But you would never do that right?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 22, 2020 14:01:55 GMT
People are under attack for simply believing. Billions of people. These are the targets even when they mind their own business and don’t ask anyone else to believe anything. They are billions of random innocents. You do realize atheists are actually the least trusted demographic in the US according to polling data, right? Try naming me one atheist senator, US Representative, governor or atheist that has even close to becoming the US President. And as someone already pointed out, attacks on religious people are usually done by other religious people, so I dunno what point you think you're making.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 22, 2020 14:06:10 GMT
There is no excuse to target billions of random innocents for thinking what they want to think.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 22, 2020 16:43:04 GMT
There is no excuse to target billions of random innocents for thinking what they want to think. Christian persecution complex is a belief, attitude or world view that Christian values and Christians are being oppressed by social groups and governments. This belief is promoted by certain American Protestant churches, and some Christian- or Bible-based cults in Europe. It has been called the "Evangelical", "American Christian" or "Christian right" persecution complex.... Some contemporary white nationalists promote a narrative of Western persecution of Christians, arguing that they, rather than minority or immigrant populations, are most often attacked and marginalized. [Wiki]
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 22, 2020 16:51:57 GMT
How does religion spoil cupcakes? Many faiths have dietary restrictions often based on obscure early traditions. The consumption of dairy products for instance is prohibited as non-kosher in the Jewish faith, based on Deuteronomy 14:21: "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk." By weighing it down with all sorts of symbolism and import, just as the superstitious used to do with comets. "God is always seeking you. Every sunset. Every clear blue sky. Each ocean wave. The starry hosts of night. He blankets each new day with the invitation, ‘I am here.’ – " Louie Giglio In most religious traditions, water is basic to physical and spiritual life, symbolizing purification, rebirth, and fertility. This concept continues to play a significant role in present water-related attitudes and actions. For everyone else, a drink is just a drink. For those in the world who go thirsty, fresh water is more of a priority than fresh platitudes.
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Post by SciFive on Dec 22, 2020 17:28:48 GMT
Calling billions and billions of random innocents on Earth “irrational” because they dare to think their own thoughts on their terms as human beings is inexcusable.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 22, 2020 17:37:34 GMT
How does religion spoil cupcakes? How does religion spoil a sunset? How does religion spoil a glass of water? A better question is How many hundreds of millions of people in history has gotten their life ruined because of religion ? And i am pretty sure that nobody has ever said that religion spoils cupcakes, sunset or a glass of water.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 22, 2020 17:42:55 GMT
There is no excuse to target billions of random innocents for thinking what they want to think. You do know that religions people are mostly attacked by other religious people right ?
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