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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 22, 2020 21:50:13 GMT
I reckon because
a. It's easy enough to drink uncarbonated soda on your own. Just pop it open and leave it for awhile.
b. it's nasty
Soda arose after a chemist made carbonated water, sold it, and people started adding flavors to it. So it's not like Coke and Pepsi had these sugar water recipes and thought "hey, what if we carbonate it?" The carbonation was the foundation of soda's creation...I don't know why I'm rhyming.
You know who really likes carbonation? Italians. They had carbonated water fountains. It was nuts.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Nov 26, 2020 22:17:20 GMT
Yeah, but I would prefer the option to have them be flat right out of the bottle/can and when you pour them!
In a world of so many options and possibilities, why can't we have that one?!
Well, at least thank God for styrofoam and cardboard cups!
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 27, 2020 22:39:13 GMT
Soda arose after a chemist made carbonated water, sold it, and people started adding flavors to it. So it's not like Coke and Pepsi had these sugar water recipes and thought "hey, what if we carbonate it?" The carbonation was the foundation of soda's creation...I don't know why I'm rhyming. I think that is unlikely. It comes out of the ground that way in places like Saratoga Springs, NY. I have been there. They have public fountains everywhere, sometimes soda water springs next to fresh water springs. I think it is likely that soda-pop became popular in places like that where they wanted to make money off their natural resources and then flavorings were added.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 27, 2020 23:10:50 GMT
Soda arose after a chemist made carbonated water, sold it, and people started adding flavors to it. So it's not like Coke and Pepsi had these sugar water recipes and thought "hey, what if we carbonate it?" The carbonation was the foundation of soda's creation...I don't know why I'm rhyming. I think that is unlikely. It comes out of the ground that way in places like Saratoga Springs, NY. I have been there. They have public fountains everywhere, sometimes soda water springs next to fresh water springs. I think it is likely that soda-pop became popular in places like that where they wanted to make money off their natural resources and then flavorings were added. Well, you think wrong. I'm not just making up random stories, that's the history and you can look it up. It was England, and it was guy who figured out how to make carbonated water vs getting it from a natural spring.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 28, 2020 1:59:57 GMT
I reckon because a. It's easy enough to drink uncarbonated soda on your own. Just pop it open and leave it for awhile. b. it's nasty Soda arose after a chemist made carbonated water, sold it, and people started adding flavors to it. So it's not like Coke and Pepsi had these sugar water recipes and thought "hey, what if we carbonate it?" The carbonation was the foundation of soda's creation...I don't know why I'm rhyming. You know who really likes carbonation? Italians. They had carbonated water fountains. It was nuts. Second Cup (a Canadian version of Starbucks) used to sell Italian sodas from fountains. I know because I used to inhale them on work breaks. They were sweeter but less syrupy than regular pops/sodas, over ice.
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 28, 2020 4:07:31 GMT
I think that is unlikely. It comes out of the ground that way in places like Saratoga Springs, NY. I have been there. They have public fountains everywhere, sometimes soda water springs next to fresh water springs. I think it is likely that soda-pop became popular in places like that where they wanted to make money off their natural resources and then flavorings were added. Well, you think wrong. I'm not just making up random stories, that's the history and you can look it up. It was England, and it was guy who figured out how to make carbonated water vs getting it from a natural spring. I did not mean to imply that you made up the story, but I think there is more to it. From my own observation, I think my story is true as well. It is likely that people have been adding flavor to soda water for centuries at least.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:18:52 GMT
I am obsessed with Mountain Dew: Code Red.  The original energy drink. Code Red isn't an energy drink though. It is just cherry flavored Mountain Dew.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:23:16 GMT
Well, you think wrong. I'm not just making up random stories, that's the history and you can look it up. It was England, and it was guy who figured out how to make carbonated water vs getting it from a natural spring. I did not mean to imply that you made up the story, but I think there is more to it. From my own observation, I think my story is true as well. It is likely that people have been adding flavor to soda water for centuries at least. This is a case where you both seem to be correct. Carbonic acid from the source originates deep within the earth. Cooled magma of volcanic mass releases carbonic acid, which then permeates the natural mineral water. Strongly carbonated mineral water usually stems from regions of with strong volcanic activity in their past.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:24:05 GMT
Code Red isn't an energy drink though. It is just cherry flavored Mountain Dew. Have you ever tried Cheerwine?  I haven't even heard of it.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:26:14 GMT
Code Red isn't an energy drink though. It is just cherry flavored Mountain Dew. I love Code Red, but can only get it occasionally at speciality shops downunder. Interesting. I guess it just didn't catch on in New Zealand. That is where you are from, correct? There are like 10 different flavors of Mountain Dew where I live. It seems like they come out with a new one every year. I have only tried half of them. Most of the others are too strong for my liking and Mountain Dew: Live Wire just tastes like an other orange soda imo.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:36:31 GMT
I haven't even heard of it. Depending on where you live, you might want to check it out. It is kinda legendary for being a heavy flavored cherry cola before the soft drink companies started expanding their flavor choices. Interesting. I have never noticed it where I live. I live in the Northern United States.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:38:11 GMT
Code Red isn't an energy drink though. It is just cherry flavored Mountain Dew. I love Code Red, but can only get it occasionally at speciality shops downunder. 
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 28, 2020 4:40:59 GMT
I did not mean to imply that you made up the story, but I think there is more to it. From my own observation, I think my story is true as well. It is likely that people have been adding flavor to soda water for centuries at least. This is a case where you are both correct. Carbonic acid from the source originates deep within the earth. Cooled magma of volcanic mass releases carbonic acid, which then permeates the natural mineral water. Strongly carbonated mineral water usually stems from regions of with strong volcanic activity in their past. But I never said carbonated water doesn't occur naturally. We're talking about the origin of sodapop which - broad assumptions here aside - wasn't a thing until after manmade carbonated water and the commercialization therein. |
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:50:41 GMT
This is a case where you are both correct. Carbonic acid from the source originates deep within the earth. Cooled magma of volcanic mass releases carbonic acid, which then permeates the natural mineral water. Strongly carbonated mineral water usually stems from regions of with strong volcanic activity in their past. But I never said carbonated water doesn't occur naturally. We're talking about the origin of sodapop which - broad assumptions here aside - wasn't a thing until after manmade carbonated water and the commercialization therein. It doesn't seem that is what the other person was talking about though. I was also just sort of giving information. EDIT - I re-read the conversation and I noticed what I overlooked. You are in fact correct. He was just throwing out some assumption about people adding flavors to natural carbonated water. That seems like it would be flavored carbonated water and that is not the same thing as soda in the way the OP is talking about it.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 5:11:27 GMT
Interesting. I guess it just didn't catch on in New Zealand. That is where you are from, correct? There are like 10 different flavors of Mountain Dew where I live. It seems like they come out with a new one every year. I have only tried half of them. Most of the others are too strong for my liking and Mountain Dew: Live Wire just tastes like an other orange soda imo. Oz now, but I have lived in NZ. There used to be a candy store near where I used to work that specialized in overseas confectionary and soft drinks which I frequented a lot. Had to pay a bit more but worth it. Introduced me to Cherry 7 Up which is my absolute fav. I am not big on 7 Up, but cherry flavored is better than regular.
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Post by dirtypillows on Nov 28, 2020 5:36:45 GMT
dirtypillows, have some Cheerwine while in NC. Lemme know what its like would ya!  I've never heard of Cheerwine before. Is it a type of soda or soft drink? |
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 28, 2020 6:35:59 GMT
I've never heard of Cheerwine before. Is it a type of soda or soft drink? It's an old school deep south cherry soda. Scroll a few posts up and you will see some images. I might add that the first time I had Dr. Pepper was in Virginia on the border of North Carolina. The first time I had Mr. Pibb (nearly identical) was in Texas. Those brands later made their way up north.
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Post by Vodkie on Nov 28, 2020 16:50:03 GMT
Have you ever tried Cheerwine?  I love cheerwine. They only sell the cane sugar glass bottles in my area but I'm ok with that. i wish i could try their "holiday punch"
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2020 17:52:14 GMT
Why Don't They Make Flat Coke (and Sodas and Colas)? Because that's %$#@ing stupid.
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