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Post by Skaathar on Jun 3, 2018 23:12:00 GMT
I know someone wanted to make a Black Widow film but is she interesting enough to get her own movie? No, Black Widow is a boring and lame character. Black Widow the comicbook character is interesting. Unfortunately, the MCU BW is admittedly quite dull. That said, a BW movie sounds more interesting than another Batman flick at this point.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 4, 2018 3:02:48 GMT
Yep, that's what I wrote about on another thread. MCU ripped off the Gamora sacrifice scene from The Illiad. I don’t think anyone believes you read the Illiad ... unless someone published it as a comic book. You’ll have to show us the passage that was “ripped off” by the Thanos & Gamora scene. It should be easy for someone with such intimate knowledge of the story. It is available online in PDF form. Just cut and paste the relevant text (you should be real good at that) and we’ll judge for ourselves.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 4, 2018 18:50:17 GMT
Hello,
Well, please don't get me wrong. That is what is written in college Greek and Latin mythology dictionnaries... Not what's usually written about Greek or Latin myths.
Imho I should not have been caring about watching it, actually. Was curious about what kind of plot they'd , er, 'create' in 2018 for a character which was originally a feminist one. Stupid answer to a silly question: there is no original plot to speak of. Well deserved castigation. It's a movie adapted from a comic book. She should be wearing the same outfit in the two medias, should she not ? She does not wear an armor in the comic (well, she might be now, she was not last time I read the only episode I know about). In this, 'paper' dc was coherent with the actual myths. Amazons would not wear something that is known to be the invention of Ares's most important female/goddess/ opponent. No suit of armor, definitely. What else ? I do not know.
Till later, T
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 4, 2018 20:46:35 GMT
Imho I should not have been caring about watching it, actually. Was curious about what kind of plot they'd , er, 'create' in 2018 for a character which was originally a feminist one. Stupid answer to a silly question: there is no original plot to speak of. Well deserved castigation. It's a movie adapted from a comic book. She should be wearing the same outfit in the two medias, should she not ? She does not wear an armor in the comic (well, she might be now, she was not last time I read the only episode I know about). In this, 'paper' dc was coherent with the actual myths. Amazons would not wear something that is known to be the invention of Ares's most important female/goddess/ opponent. No suit of armor, definitely. What else ? I do not know. Till later, T Majority of superheroes on screen don't wear exactly what they wear in comics. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain America, Thor, you name it. All of them had to have modifications done to their costumes to fit their movie counterparts. So not sure why you're singling out Wonder Woman? Besides, light armor (the kind she's wearing) pretty much fits in to their Amazonian culture if you consider that they were elite warriors from the Greek era.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jun 4, 2018 23:39:31 GMT
Well, on paper, they did the story of Thanos one first time. His motives for killing half of the living were that he was courting death. Now it's on screen, and his mobile is fighting overpopulation. The troyan war was about overpopulation too. Helen was sired so there could be a war, so people could be butchered ten years long. More breathing room in the end. There's another piece of greek mythology in that on screen Thanos story. Daughter sacrified Yep, that's what I wrote about on another thread. MCU ripped off the Gamora sacrifice scene from The Illiad. I think the Simpsons did it too.
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Post by transfuged on Jun 5, 2018 19:07:30 GMT
Hello, (Er... Sorry, this might be a little be garbled. It might be edited as soon as someone can get some sleep) Well, Wonder Woman because that's the last blockbuster I saw starring a female character, maybe. And Supergirl because it was the first one. I might have tried to hint above that marvel's female characters are only featured either for target practice or worse (being a secretary in love with her boss qualifies as 'worse 'imho) and why should not marverl mirror the actual way things are in real life as it comes to artists (pretty wife, no artistic competition), mind you ? Why would I be insisting on same outfits ? Well, because they should not restrict the amount of creativeness to a bit of fabric and think that they do not need to bother about a new story, to begin with ? Superman costume was unmodified, the story was a new one... Even when the late Chris Reeve was not a hunk, it did not matter. Story, music, humor, enthousiasm, well... Only avatar got the same amout of praise in the media. I was there for superman, as a kid, and I can recall the madness in the media. ( And I could watch Namor in the speedo, but not in the ugly long loose things males clad themselves with on the beach, ) Well, no, suits of armors and Ares daughters are not 'culturally' compatible... That is not a matter of opinion but of fact based on the current data available in places where one can get information on 'culture'. Sorry. When it were an opinion of mine I would tell you. Now, when anyone is smart enought to have me do their own work (going to a library, read books, underline the most imortants parts)... Hehehe, I'd like to see that. And they would have to come here in the flesh, first. No good work comes from the net. Nothing's better than a long boring discussion over coffee to get things done. Sorry again.😶 Till later, T
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 16, 2019 17:46:30 GMT
It's bad enough that MCU has refused to make a female-led superhero movie for such a long time, but it's even worse that instead of showing her as a strong woman who can stand up and fight for herself and kick some ass, MCU is promoting their first female-led superhero movie by showing her in her bra and panties.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMtb-zIUJII
Be honest with me. Did you really believe that this was a real trailer?
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Post by damngumby on Feb 16, 2019 18:33:20 GMT
It's bad enough that MCU has refused to make a female-led superhero movie for such a long time, but it's even worse that instead of showing her as a strong woman who can stand up and fight for herself and kick some ass, MCU is promoting their first female-led superhero movie by showing her in her bra and panties.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMtb-zIUJII
Be honest with me. Did you really believe that this was a real trailer? Never underestimate the power of stupidity.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 16, 2019 19:09:38 GMT
Be honest with me. Did you really believe that this was a real trailer? Never underestimate the power of stupidity. You would know, since Patriots fans are the stupidest fans in all of sports. Patriots fans are so stupid they believe that: 1. Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom "Shady" Brady to illegally use in football games. 2. The laws of physics somehow behave differently on opposite sides of a football field, which is why the Patriots footballs deflated by about 2 PSI while the Colts footballs on the opposite sideline had very little deflation.
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Post by scabab on Feb 16, 2019 19:14:10 GMT
You ignored Haunted Knights question.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 16, 2019 19:28:06 GMT
Let it be known that DC-Fan fears me!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 16, 2019 19:32:32 GMT
Let it be known that DC-Fan fears me!
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Post by sostie on Feb 16, 2019 19:41:35 GMT
He'll never admit that the trailer was fake (though it is of the picture quality he is used to)
Looking back he did come up with some other corkers
Agent Carter's lowest rating for an episode was 2.35m viewers. The majority of DC episodes shows don't get near that
Supergirl, The Flash, Green Arrow, Black Lightning and Legends Of Tomorrow are all still going, yet only Supergirl's first season beat the average viewership of Agent Carter's...the rest no where near. None of the DC shows season 2 average beat Agent Carter's second season average. So it looks like there are exceptions and Low ratings does not always mean Cancellation. ABC had higher standards and were quick to cancel a comparably well performing show with ratings Warners can only dream of for their now mostly sub 1m viewership DC shows.
Well it's subscription numbers are still rising. And they have 3 Oscar nominated films including the favourite for best pic. I think they'll be around a while. 140 million subscribers seems like it's going to do well. Moreso than the DC Universe....33,000 in it's first month, and reports it is losing money...that's a shocker.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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Post by damngumby on Feb 16, 2019 19:43:49 GMT
Let it be known that DC-Fan fears me! Never underestimate the power of cowardice.
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Post by damngumby on Feb 16, 2019 20:06:25 GMT
the Patriots footballs deflated by about 2 PSI Never underestimate the power of shameless dishonesty. Stupid, coward, liar. Just another day for DC-Fan.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 16, 2019 20:11:38 GMT
Never underestimate the power of stupidity. You would know, since Patriots fans are the stupidest fans in all of sports. Patriots fans are so stupid they believe that: 1. Jim "The Deflator" McNally called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight and not because he was deflating footballs for Tom "Shady" Brady to illegally use in football games. 2. The laws of physics somehow behave differently on opposite sides of a football field, which is why the Patriots footballs deflated by about 2 PSI while the Colts footballs on the opposite sideline had very little deflation. 1. If you're so sure McNally calling himself 'the deflator' was only about football pressure, why did he tell Jastremski "deflate and give somebody that jacket" at the end of the 1st half of a Pats @ Packers game McNally was watching from home?
2. Neither set of balls deflated, because deflate means gas escaped, and pressure in a sealed vessel can change without the amount of air changing. The Colts' were measured at the end of halftime, the Pats' were measured at the start. Time is a very important variable in the laws of physics. Exponent even showed that the length of halftime is enough for a football to warm or cool significantly.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 17, 2019 5:40:30 GMT
It's funny how DC-Fan thinks Kevin Feige would promote his first female superhero is such a perverted way (the footage is fake btw), but yet no problem how DC promotes Harley Quinn.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 17, 2019 16:28:03 GMT
It's funny how DC-Fan thinks Kevin Feige would promote his first female superhero is such a perverted way (the footage is fake btw), but yet no problem how DC promotes Harley Quinn. Supergirl was DC's first female-led superhero movie and Wonder Woman is the DCEU's first female-led superhero movie. There's no Harley Quinn movie. On the MCU side, Captain Marvel is MCU's first female-led superhero movie. That's after 11 years and 20 movies, because Kevin Feige has always hated having female lead characters in MCU movies.
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Post by damngumby on Feb 17, 2019 17:33:12 GMT
Supergirl was DC's first female-led superhero movie And what an unmitigated clusterfuck it was. Widely considered to be one of the worst superhero movies ever made. Along with the Superman sequels, it set back the genre for decades. The DECU is dead (self-inflicted wounds) ... Didn't you get the memo? Is that your sorry-ass excuse for believing a fake trailer and giving a pass to the sexploitation of a DC charactor? Yesterday you were the epitomy of stupidity, cowardice and dishonesty. Today its gullibility and hypocricy. What will tomorrow bring, I wonder?
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Post by sostie on Feb 17, 2019 20:24:36 GMT
It's funny how DC-Fan thinks Kevin Feige would promote his first female superhero is such a perverted way (the footage is fake btw), but yet no problem how DC promotes Harley Quinn. Supergirl was DC's first female-led superhero movie and Wonder Woman is the DCEU's first female-led superhero movie. There's no Harley Quinn movie. On the MCU side, Captain Marvel is MCU's first female-led superhero movie. That's after 11 years and 20 movies, because Kevin Feige has always hated having female lead characters in MCU movies. No it wasn't...it was the Salkind's. DC had nothing to do with it's production. DCs first female-led superhero movie was Catwoman, 14 yeas after DC was involved in production of films. 3 more than it took MCU, and 7 years more than it took Marvel with Elektra.
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