Hnefahogg
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Post by Hnefahogg on Nov 23, 2020 21:40:52 GMT
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Post by clusium on Nov 23, 2020 21:55:52 GMT
He'd leave Confucianism too, for the very same reasons.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 24, 2020 0:58:04 GMT
I doubt either the boy or the lecturer read a book all the way through in their entire lives. This is what the world is coming to? Three minute videos with ten seconds worth of text that mean nothing?
I believe true evil exists based on some very convincing reports brought to me. It is however extremely rare. It is important to note though that there are several balanced forces in society both of which are not evil. For example being "male" is not evil.
Neither political party is supposed to be "evil," but too many people consider their political opposition "evil."
Thank you for my three minutes.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 24, 2020 7:47:39 GMT
I doubt either the boy or the lecturer read a book all the way through in their entire lives. This is what the world is coming to? Three minute videos with ten seconds worth of text that mean nothing? I believe true evil exists based on some very convincing reports brought to me. It is however extremely rare. It is important to note though that there are several balanced forces in society both of which are not evil. For example being "male" is not evil. Neither political party is supposed to be "evil," but too many people consider their political opposition "evil." Thank you for my three minutes. I believe true evil exists based on some very convincing reports brought to me. Really, the reason I believe it exists is because I see it in action every day, nobody needs to report to me about it. Usually from people who firmly believe they are the Good Christians. What book have you read all the way through?
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 24, 2020 8:33:00 GMT
What book have you read all the way through? The Bible. Really? Did you ever play "Bible Simon Says"? Thanks for proving my point though. You believe Republicans are evil. You probably already know they think you're morally reprehensible. They have hunting dogs with more sense than Democrats. You might agree with this though, their hunting dogs have more sense than their owners have part of the time. While all that is very sad, it isn't the same thing as "evil." I would rather call it "misguided." They have faith, and whether you realize it or not you have faith too. Faith can be a good thing in other times. It can be most efficient. It can save the time, resources and heartache of trying bad ideas over and over. To do that however requires that faith have good leadership. That's the part that's missing.
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Post by permutojoe on Nov 24, 2020 15:39:26 GMT
I could be wrong but I don't think Taoism is based on just doing whatever people tell you to do.
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Post by clusium on Nov 24, 2020 15:44:21 GMT
I could be wrong but I don't think Taoism is based on just doing whatever people tell you to do. Taoism is just about "going with the flow;' lettings things be as they are.
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Post by permutojoe on Nov 24, 2020 20:16:09 GMT
I could be wrong but I don't think Taoism is based on just doing whatever people tell you to do. Taoism is just about "going with the flow;' lettings things be as they are. I'm not super familiar with it but I'd like to think that wouldn't include rolling over for a death cult that's going around killing folks by the millions.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 25, 2020 2:33:00 GMT
That's nothing, I left "Transformers 4" in less than one minute.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 25, 2020 9:37:01 GMT
Really? Did you ever play "Bible Simon Says"? Thanks for proving my point though. You believe Republicans are evil. You probably already know they think you're morally reprehensible. They have hunting dogs with more sense than Democrats. You might agree with this though, their hunting dogs have more sense than their owners have part of the time. While all that is very sad, it isn't the same thing as "evil." I would rather call it "misguided." They have faith, and whether you realize it or not you have faith too. Faith can be a good thing in other times. It can be most efficient. It can save the time, resources and heartache of trying bad ideas over and over. To do that however requires that faith have good leadership. That's the part that's missing. I never said Republicans are evil. However, anyone can do evil shit. That the Republican Christians are doing so much of it now is not my fault. They have hunting dogs with more sense than Democrats.That's interesting. Do you see Democrats as mostly black people or college-educated liberal types like me? Where I grew up there were more conservative blacks. I think blacks are characteristically more sensible people. I'm not sure why. Maybe they have less tendency to get into all the hype, are more grounded. Maybe they see things from a better perspective. Very large cities do seem to have a lot of poor people. They don't trust the power structure. The power structure in larger cities often doesn't deserve their trust. "College educated liberal" has become an oxymoron lately.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 25, 2020 13:49:20 GMT
Where I grew up there were more conservative blacks. I think blacks are characteristically more sensible people. I'm not sure why. Maybe they have less tendency to get into all the hype, are more grounded. Maybe they see things from a better perspective. Very large cities do seem to have a lot of poor people. They don't trust the power structure. The power structure in larger cities often doesn't deserve their trust. "College educated liberal" has become an oxymoron lately. I think blacks are characteristically more sensible people. Ah, then you should be pleased with their sensible choices for president. I'm not sure why. Maybe because they’ve had no choice but to suffer indignity while their white brethren did every thing possible to keep themselves from suffering the same fate. Maybe they have less tendency to get into all the hype, are more grounded.It’s called learned patience. Maybe they see things from a better perspective. Like revenge is a fool’s errand. Very large cities do seem to have a lot of poor people. Maybe because the good people in the heartland do not want them around. They don't trust the power structure.So they are building their own power structures. The power structure in larger cities often doesn't deserve their trust.
You got that right. That’s why whites are on the wane in large black cities like Atlanta. “ College educated liberal" has become an oxymoron lately.That’s not actually an oxymoron. If you’d been to college, you know that. You were curious whether I was comparing blacks to dumb animals. I think I showed you I was not. I think racism is fading away in the South. It's more the country versus the city than any color versus another. There might be remnants of racism be in the South, but not in the Midwest. The Midwest wants Blacks on their football teams. "College educated" and "having attended college" are not necessarily the same thing, and I do know what an oxymoron is.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 25, 2020 14:05:38 GMT
You were curious whether I was comparing blacks to dumb animals. I think I showed you I was not. I think racism is fading away in the South. It's more the country versus the city than any color versus another. There might be remnants of racism be in the South, but not in the Midwest. The Midwest wants Blacks on their football teams. "College educated" and "having attended college" are not necessarily the same thing, and I do know what an oxymoron is. You were curious whether I was comparing blacks to dumb animals. Congratulations. You just took the first step in becoming more liberal. You have admitted the leadership of the Democratic Party by it’s black members is not a bunch of dumb animals. That’s a leap in the right direction. You are very terribly bitter about something. I have no idea what. The Democratic Party, like the country, is mostly White.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 26, 2020 0:21:02 GMT
You are very terribly bitter about something. I have no idea what. The Democratic Party, like the country, is mostly White. I’m not bitter, not at all. It’s just the world seems a bitter place if you keep on covering up reality with the gooey treacle baked into your pie in sky. And ask yourself, why do you keep coming to me for a taste of my bitterness? Who? The world is messed up. I'll grant that. There is apparently very bitter contention between the political parties. I think it is mostly like the sitcoms where it's just misunderstandings and everybody laughs at the end. Actual religion and actual science are not in contention. I think both sides are not well prepared by the education system, and as a result spend too much government money, just in different ways. Imagine how bitter they might be when they discover that. It seems to me a "college educated" person would be above the misunderstandings.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 26, 2020 9:01:37 GMT
Who? The world is messed up. I'll grant that. There is apparently very bitter contention between the political parties. I think it is mostly like the sitcoms where it's just misunderstandings and everybody laughs at the end. Actual religion and actual science are not in contention. I think both sides are not well prepared by the education system, and as a result spend too much government money, just in different ways. Imagine how bitter they might be when they discover that. It seems to me a "college educated" person would be above the misunderstandings. Actual religion and actual science are not in contention.
Science and religion are very much in contention. What is not is God and science. Religious people tend to confuse the Naked God with the one they dress up in their pet myths, rituals, and magical beliefs. For people who cannot read above a rudimentary level, religion appears to defy "logic." People who cannot understand even as much as logic often include things that have not been proved as "science." So yes, there is contention. Since those people are not taken seriously in the classroom they take their contention to politics where any idiot is allowed to vote.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 26, 2020 9:12:18 GMT
Actual religion and actual science are not in contention.
Science and religion are very much in contention. What is not is God and science. Religious people tend to confuse the Naked God with the one they dress up in their pet myths, rituals, and magical beliefs. And speaking from 50 years of following the spiritual-scholar path, you’ve no idea what you are talking about as far as education goes. Why must you trash one of the most shining achievements of Western Mankind? Although plenty of people still cannot see what the problem is and turn to politics for solutions, I am not the only person to see what that problem is. Your concept of religion appears to have been formed in an environment devoid of revelation, or at least you have none yourself. In your fifty years have you ever studied the works of Roger Sperry? His dialectic of left brain and right brain aspects of personality has been used effectively in many conversations about the limitations of logic.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 26, 2020 11:13:22 GMT
I doubt either the boy or the lecturer read a book all the way through in their entire lives. This is what the world is coming to? Three minute videos with ten seconds worth of text that mean nothing? I believe true evil exists based on some very convincing reports brought to me. It is however extremely rare. It is important to note though that there are several balanced forces in society both of which are not evil. For example being "male" is not evil. Neither political party is supposed to be "evil," but too many people consider their political opposition "evil." Thank you for my three minutes. In what objective form does it exist Arlon, or is this just going back to the God exists argument when NO proof need be provided out of convenience and selective reasoning due to subjective belief? If you saw it you would know. Apparently you will have to see it yourself.
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Post by Arlon10 on Nov 26, 2020 15:44:13 GMT
Although plenty of people still cannot see what the problem is and turn to politics for solutions, I am not the only person to see what that problem is. Your concept of religion appears to have been formed in an environment devoid of revelation, or at least you have none yourself. In your fifty years have you ever studied the works of Roger Sperry? His dialectic of left brain and right brain aspects of personality has been used effectively in many conversations about the limitations of logic. You have no idea what a concept of religion is much less mine. Not that I have not tried to explain to you. Therefore, I’m done. You’ve broken me. I’ll give you a parting gift: Below is a blank space. You type in whatever it is you think Paul Slaff should believe. You can write whatever you want. You can pretend you converted me to the True Faith and that I burned my college diploma. It’ll be a big feather in your cap over at reddit.
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