|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 26, 2020 7:22:26 GMT
First off let's get this fact out of the way. We are all of African decent. White skin, blue eyes, blond hair etc. didn't start appearing in the human race until much later as groups moved North.
People seem to use the term in different ways.
Some people simply go by the "my race is superior" definintion.
And some people use it much more broadly and the base definintion doesn't even have to come into it necessarily.
Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter.
How I define racism - disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races.
People stereotype for literally every type of person, even within their own race. This does not fall into the racism category as far as I'm concerned. Literally everybody does it and it is nearly impossible to avoid thinking this way to some extent. You notice things about groups of people and your mind starts putting patterns together.
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Nov 26, 2020 7:29:46 GMT
Holding any sort of prejudice against people of any race is a racist behaviour. Let's say I believe that white people are racists in general then I am a racist. Some people believe that to be a racist you need to be in a group that has dominance in the society but I do not believe in that. As per me anyone can be a racist based on his views on others.
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 26, 2020 7:39:56 GMT
Holding any sort of prejudice against people of any race is a racist behaviour. Let's say I believe that white people are racists in general then I am a racist. Some people believe that to be a racist you need to be in a group that has dominance in the society but I do not believe in that. As per me anyone can be a racist based on his views on others. I mostly agree with that. I hold that prejudices are nearly impossible to avoid on a small scale though, meaning everybody has prejudices, but only fools apply those to an entire section of the population as being factually accurate. Meaning I for example hold a perception of people from the South as being racist, though I know that only applies to certain people in the South and there are also people in the North that are racist. Though that is what pops into my head as stereotype of Southern people because of the history in the U.S.
|
|
|
Post by Morgana on Nov 26, 2020 7:46:29 GMT
That is my basic definition of it. People of any race and colour can be racist.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 7:49:37 GMT
That question is racist
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 26, 2020 7:52:16 GMT
Would it be a racist question if I were not white? I realize you are being sarcastic. At least I hope you are.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 7:59:18 GMT
Would it be a racist question if I were not white? I realize you are being sarcastic. At least I hope you are. Youre white? Ahhh explains a lot
|
|
|
Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 26, 2020 9:08:58 GMT
Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group.
|
|
|
Post by Karl Aksel on Nov 26, 2020 10:15:08 GMT
Discriminating on the basis of race, plain and simple. It doesn't matter who does the discriminating, or who is on the receiving end of it.
|
|
|
Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 26, 2020 16:14:36 GMT
disliking people / hating people / fearing people because of their race
and
using "fighting back against racism" as an excuse for one's own bad behavior
|
|
|
Post by mstreepsucks on Nov 26, 2020 16:52:19 GMT
I use the definitions in the dictionary for all words. Just sayin'.
|
|
|
Post by mikef6 on Nov 26, 2020 16:52:54 GMT
I have deep doubts that - in the U.S. and most of Europe, at least - that there is such a thing as racism against white people.
An informative saying I once heard is that you are not one of a peoples who have been discriminated against unless there has been a Supreme Court decision that affirms you have a specific civil right. White people - white males, that is - have always had every civil right and had never had to demonstrate or go to court to get them.
|
|
|
Post by mikef6 on Nov 26, 2020 17:00:25 GMT
I have deep doubts that there is such a thing as racism against white people. A good saying I once heard is that you are not one of a group who has been discriminated against unless the Supreme Court has had to rule that you have such and such a civil right. White people – that is, white males – have never had to demonstrate or go to court to affirm that they have basic civil rights.
Denying basic rights to others (to vote, to marry the person they are in love with, to travel freely without questioning, to enter any place open to the public without challenge – so many others) is bigotry – racial and otherwise.
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 27, 2020 3:51:40 GMT
I use the definitions in the dictionary for all words. Just sayin'. There are multiple definitions for words in the dictionary. Words have subtle changes in usage as time goes on and then the dictionary has to catch up.
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 27, 2020 4:01:34 GMT
I have deep doubts that there is such a thing as racism against white people. A good saying I once heard is that you are not one of a group who has been discriminated against unless the Supreme Court has had to rule that you have such and such a civil right. White people – that is, white males – have never had to demonstrate or go to court to affirm that they have basic civil rights. Denying basic rights to others (to vote, to marry the person they are in love with, to travel freely without questioning, to enter any place open to the public without challenge – so many others) is bigotry – racial and otherwise. You don't think there are other races who hold a grudge against the white race as a whole or have a reactionary racist reaction based on the actions of white people? When the George Floyd thing broke out this year there were white people being made to feel scared just for being white. This is just human nature, but it is a form of racism.
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 27, 2020 4:08:48 GMT
disliking people / hating people / fearing people because of their race and using "fighting back against racism" as an excuse for one's own bad behavior Fear is a little more tricky because it is such a base emotion. It is what people do based on that fear that is a problem.
|
|
|
Post by darkreviewer2013 on Nov 27, 2020 4:30:40 GMT
I have deep doubts that - in the U.S. and most of Europe, at least - that there is such a thing as racism against white people. An informative saying I once heard is that you are not one of a peoples who have been discriminated against unless there has been a Supreme Court decision that affirms you have a specific civil right. White people - white males, that is - have always had every civil right and had never had to demonstrate or go to court to get them. In Europe and the early United States, there was significant discrimination against white people of different ethnicities. Think of historical German hostility towards the Poles and Eastern European people, British antagonism towards the Irish, American hostility towards Italian immigrants a century or more ago. Social customs and class played a role, but having a recognizably different ethnic heritage played a major role in fomenting the hostility. So racism between between different "white"/European ethnic groups has a long history. Indeed, most intra-European racism prior to the late 20th century was directed at white ethnic minorities or neighbouring peoples. Of course, the institutional discrimination against African-Americans and Native Americans in the US was reprehensible, but it is far from the only model of racism in existence.
|
|
|
Post by llanwydd on Nov 27, 2020 4:39:26 GMT
Holding any sort of prejudice against people of any race is a racist behaviour. Let's say I believe that white people are racists in general then I am a racist. Some people believe that to be a racist you need to be in a group that has dominance in the society but I do not believe in that. As per me anyone can be a racist based on his views on others. Prejudice is behavior?
|
|
|
Post by moviemouth on Nov 27, 2020 4:42:55 GMT
I have deep doubts that - in the U.S. and most of Europe, at least - that there is such a thing as racism against white people. An informative saying I once heard is that you are not one of a peoples who have been discriminated against unless there has been a Supreme Court decision that affirms you have a specific civil right. White people - white males, that is - have always had every civil right and had never had to demonstrate or go to court to get them. In Europe and the early United States, there was significant discrimination against white people of different ethnicities. Think of historical German hostility towards the Poles and Eastern European people, British antagonism towards the Irish, American hostility towards Italian immigrants a century or more ago. Social customs and class played a role, but having a recognizably different ethnic heritage played a major role in fomenting the hostility. So racism between between different "white"/European ethnic groups has a long history. Indeed, most intra-European racism prior to the late 20th century was directed at white ethnic minorities or neighbouring peoples. Of course, the institutional discrimination against African-Americans and Native Americans in the US was reprehensible, but it is far from the only model of racism in existence. How is it racism if they are members of the same race? The term sort of loses it's meaning when you start talking about the English and the Irish as being "racist" towards eachother. You seem to be talking about prejudice and nationalism and that isn't the same thing.
|
|
|
Post by darkreviewer2013 on Nov 27, 2020 4:55:16 GMT
In Europe and the early United States, there was significant discrimination against white people of different ethnicities. Think of historical German hostility towards the Poles and Eastern European people, British antagonism towards the Irish, American hostility towards Italian immigrants a century or more ago. Social customs and class played a role, but having a recognizably different ethnic heritage played a major role in fomenting the hostility. So racism between between different "white"/European ethnic groups has a long history. Indeed, most intra-European racism prior to the late 20th century was directed at white ethnic minorities or neighbouring peoples. Of course, the institutional discrimination against African-Americans and Native Americans in the US was reprehensible, but it is far from the only model of racism in existence. How is it racism if they are members of the same race? The term sort of loses it's meaning when you start talking about the English and the Irish as being "racist" towards eachother. You seem to be talking about prejudice and nationalism and that isn't the same thing. A lot of the time the racists considered themselves to be a different and 'superior' race though. German nationalists often considered Slavic peoples to be a lower breed of humanity, notwithstanding the obvious physical similarities between them. The Irish were often characterised as "white negroes" (to use the terminology of the time) in the 19th century. Nowadays, we tend to view white people as belonging to a single racial group, but that was not always the case. I mean, Jews are mostly white people, but they were the single most horrendously persecuted ethnic group in Europe historically. And they were most certainly viewed as belonging to a different race. I suppose one could argue that our understanding of 'race' has narrowed to encompass only people with blatantly different physical appearances.
|
|