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Post by llanwydd on Nov 27, 2020 22:41:19 GMT
Hmm. Webster? Oxford English? Funk and Wagnalls? How do you define it? I have said repeatedly that I do not. It is a meaningless word used for the purpose of intimidation.
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 28, 2020 3:03:47 GMT
I have said repeatedly that I do not. It is a meaningless word used for the purpose of intimidation. That’s a Webster’s definition? Just one more time (I hope). There is no definition.
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 28, 2020 3:34:41 GMT
Just one more time (I hope). There is no definition. Kiddo, it is a word, therefore it has a definition. No word in any language has a universal definition. It is subject to interpretation. Just take a look at this whole thread, kiddo.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 3:48:00 GMT
Kiddo, it is a word, therefore it has a definition. No word in any language has a universal definition. It is subject to interpretation. Just take a look at this whole thread, kiddo. This is just silly. Every word has a usage and people can use words in slightly different ways, but the word racism exists and has meaning. They might be slightly different by certain people and that is why words have multiple descriptions in the dictionary. If someone says the word racism has no meaning then they will no longer be taking part in a conversation about the word racism. If you want to say words don't have descriptions, then you have written yourself out of any conversation about words. You might as well not have even responded at all.
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 28, 2020 3:51:44 GMT
If we all came from Africa then we are all one race and so there can be no racism, just sibling rivalry.
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Post by llanwydd on Nov 28, 2020 3:56:44 GMT
No word in any language has a universal definition. It is subject to interpretation. Just take a look at this whole thread, kiddo. This is just silly. Every word has a usage and people can use words in slightly different ways, but the word racism exists and has meaning. They might be slightly different by certain people and that is why words have multiple descriptions in the dictionary. If someone says the word racism has no meaning then they will no longer be taking part in a conversation about the word racism. If you want to say words don't have descriptions, then you have written yourself out of any conversation about words. You might as well not have even responded at all. That is just silly.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 4:00:39 GMT
This is just silly. Every word has a usage and people can use words in slightly different ways, but the word racism exists and has meaning. They might be slightly different by certain people and that is why words have multiple descriptions in the dictionary. If someone says the word racism has no meaning then they will no longer be taking part in a conversation about the word racism. If you want to say words don't have descriptions, then you have written yourself out of any conversation about words. You might as well not have even responded at all. That is just silly. That sentence has no meaning, because those words don't have definitions. All I see is "iweh lsm bdw cx."
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Post by Morgana on Nov 28, 2020 8:40:58 GMT
I have deep doubts that - in the U.S. and most of Europe, at least - that there is such a thing as racism against white people. An informative saying I once heard is that you are not one of a peoples who have been discriminated against unless there has been a Supreme Court decision that affirms you have a specific civil right. White people - white males, that is - have always had every civil right and had never had to demonstrate or go to court to get them. If the American Supreme Court has to decide on what racism is then that applies only to America. As for the rest of the world - black, brown, white, and yellow people can be, and are, racist against each other.
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Post by dirtypillows on Nov 28, 2020 19:51:57 GMT
Would it be a racist question if I were not white? I realize you are being sarcastic. At least I hope you are. Youre white? Ahhh explains a lotTotally racist comment there
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2020 20:37:08 GMT
First off let's get this fact out of the way. We are all of African decent. White skin, blue eyes, blond hair etc. didn't start appearing in the human race until much later as groups moved North.
People seem to use the term in different ways. Some people simply go by the "my race is superior" definintion. And some people use it much more broadly and the base definintion doesn't even have to come into it necessarily. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter. How I define racism - disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. People stereotype for literally every type of person, even within their own race. This does not fall into the racism category as far as I'm concerned. Literally everybody does it and it is nearly impossible to avoid thinking this way to some extent. You notice things about groups of people and your mind starts putting patterns together. Yes, we all descend from Africa, though some of us don't know any better. And I also define racism as disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. Though I would add that the hate is for no other reason than difference of race. The vast majority if people who hate based on race do not personally know the people/persons they are hating, and because of that could not have formed any opinion about their character or circumstances. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter.
Here I would disagree a bit. Institutional racism stems from the personal racist feelings. If a majority race with controlling socio-economic powers feels a minority race is inferior they will not afford them the same socio-economic opportunities that they afford those of their own race. That's what's happening. It's generational, and often subconscious.
It could be something as small as holding your purse closer because a black guy walked into the room, or something as large as cops killing by far way more black men, or as insidious as black entrepreneurs and first time home buyers having to pay far higher interest rates for business and home loans.
We all have to look at our own behaviors and responses.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 28, 2020 21:01:12 GMT
First off let's get this fact out of the way. We are all of African decent. White skin, blue eyes, blond hair etc. didn't start appearing in the human race until much later as groups moved North.
People seem to use the term in different ways. Some people simply go by the "my race is superior" definintion. And some people use it much more broadly and the base definintion doesn't even have to come into it necessarily. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter. How I define racism - disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. People stereotype for literally every type of person, even within their own race. This does not fall into the racism category as far as I'm concerned. Literally everybody does it and it is nearly impossible to avoid thinking this way to some extent. You notice things about groups of people and your mind starts putting patterns together. Yes, we all descend from Africa, though some of us don't know any better. And I also define racism as disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. Though I would add that the hate is for no other reason than difference of race. The vast majority if people who hate based on race do not personally know the people/persons they are hating, and because of that could not have formed any opinion about their character or circumstances. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter.
Here I would disagree a bit. Institutional racism stems from the personal racist feelings. If a majority race with controlling socio-economic powers feels a minority race is inferior they will not afford them the same socio-economic opportunities that they afford those of their own race. That's what's happening. It's generational, and often subconscious.
It could be something as small as holding your purse closer because a black guy walked into the room, or something as large as cops killing by far way more black men, or as insidious as black entrepreneurs and first time home buyers having to pay far higher interest rates for business and home loans.
We all have to look at our own behaviors and responses. I am talking about the ordinary person who has no say in who controls the powers that be and that is most of what you said, besides the purse thing. You would first have to show that that person is holding their purse closer because they person is a different race. Obviously if people in power put out fear mongering information than it is going to be natural for people to believe the lies and their reaction would be no fault of their own. In modern U.S. there isn't as much excuse anymore. All evidence seems to suggest that most people who encounter the unfamiliar become fearful to some extent. It all started somewhere for some reason and it was always going to end up the way it is now. Human nature is an interesting thing. It is obvious to me that all of this started with 3 things. Ignorance, fear and selfishness. Tribalism has always existed and part of who we are. Many emotional responses are uncontrollable btw. People can try and deny that all they want, but they would be wrong. I can extend this to religion or anything that the outside world forced into our subconscious as children and young adults. It is nearly impossible to escape.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 1, 2020 2:16:45 GMT
Yes, we all descend from Africa, though some of us don't know any better. And I also define racism as disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. Though I would add that the hate is for no other reason than difference of race. The vast majority if people who hate based on race do not personally know the people/persons they are hating, and because of that could not have formed any opinion about their character or circumstances. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter.
Here I would disagree a bit. Institutional racism stems from the personal racist feelings. If a majority race with controlling socio-economic powers feels a minority race is inferior they will not afford them the same socio-economic opportunities that they afford those of their own race. That's what's happening. It's generational, and often subconscious.
It could be something as small as holding your purse closer because a black guy walked into the room, or something as large as cops killing by far way more black men, or as insidious as black entrepreneurs and first time home buyers having to pay far higher interest rates for business and home loans.
We all have to look at our own behaviors and responses.I am talking about the ordinary person who has no say in who controls the powers that be and that is most of what you said, besides the purse thing. You would first have to show that that person is holding their purse closer because they person is a different race. Obviously if people in power put out fear mongering information than it is going to be natural for people to believe the lies and their reaction would be no fault of their own. In modern U.S. there isn't as much excuse anymore. All evidence seems to suggest that most people who encounter the unfamiliar become fearful to some extent. It all started somewhere for some reason and it was always going to end up the way it is now. Human nature is an interesting thing. It is obvious to me that all of this started with 3 things. Ignorance, fear and selfishness. Tribalism has always existed and part of who we are. Many emotional responses are uncontrollable btw. People can try and deny that all they want, but they would be wrong. I can extend this to religion or anything that the outside world forced into our subconscious as children and young adults. It is nearly impossible to escape. That's one way to look at it. Another is what I wrote: "We all have to look at our own behaviors and responses." Our intellectual mind can overcome our emotional mind. If not then we're just animals who have no control over our feelings and emotions, and we cant control ourselves when we get angry, or when we have feeling that we know are wrong or based only in ignorance. We can look at our own behavior and change it. I can choose to look at the things in my "tribe" and think "hmmm, that actually doesn't make sense and I'm not going to go that way any more. I'm going to change... for the better." If we cant do that then the human race is doomed to stagnate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 4:46:09 GMT
Youre white? Ahhh explains a lot Totally racist comment there Total snowflake here
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Post by movieliker on Dec 1, 2020 20:11:37 GMT
First off let's get this fact out of the way. We are all of African decent. White skin, blue eyes, blond hair etc. didn't start appearing in the human race until much later as groups moved North.
People seem to use the term in different ways. Some people simply go by the "my race is superior" definintion. And some people use it much more broadly and the base definintion doesn't even have to come into it necessarily. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter. How I define racism - disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. People stereotype for literally every type of person, even within their own race. This does not fall into the racism category as far as I'm concerned. Literally everybody does it and it is nearly impossible to avoid thinking this way to some extent. You notice things about groups of people and your mind starts putting patterns together. I define racism as treating members of a particular race differently than other races. Black Lives Matter is racist. They want special rights for black criminals. That wouldn't be extended to other races. Or, they want special rights for all people of color (black, Hispanic and Asian) that wouldn't or shouldn't be extended to white people (Caucasian).
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Dec 1, 2020 23:21:27 GMT
First off let's get this fact out of the way. We are all of African decent. White skin, blue eyes, blond hair etc. didn't start appearing in the human race until much later as groups moved North.
People seem to use the term in different ways. Some people simply go by the "my race is superior" definintion. And some people use it much more broadly and the base definintion doesn't even have to come into it necessarily. Institutional racism is something much different than personal feelings about other races and I don't have much knowledge about on this matter. How I define racism - disliking people/hating people because of their race or considering your race superior to other races. People stereotype for literally every type of person, even within their own race. This does not fall into the racism category as far as I'm concerned. Literally everybody does it and it is nearly impossible to avoid thinking this way to some extent. You notice things about groups of people and your mind starts putting patterns together. Black Lives Matter is racist. They want special rights for black criminals. That wouldn't be extended to other races. I think they believe they are targeted and receive "worse" treatment, especially from law enforcement. They are asking to receive the same treatment, not be singled out and profiled as inherently more dangerous or likely to commit crimes.
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Post by movieliker on Dec 1, 2020 23:28:20 GMT
Black Lives Matter is racist. They want special rights for black criminals. That wouldn't be extended to other races. I think they believe they are targeted and receive "worse" treatment, especially from law enforcement. They are asking to receive the same treatment, not be singled out and profiled as inherently more dangerous or likely to commit crimes. That would be a good interpretation. But that is not consistent with protesting career criminals getting killed fighting with police. That's what kills white people. Getting killed doing something dangerous (being a career criminal fighting with police) is not racist. It's dangerous for everybody. And demanding police be defunded or abolished for everybody --- even when crime is rising --- is not asking for equal treatment. It's campaigning for chaos and mayhem. They are campaigning for criminals and criminal activity. And against protection for law abiding people.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 2, 2020 0:26:07 GMT
I think they believe they are targeted and receive "worse" treatment, especially from law enforcement. They are asking to receive the same treatment, not be singled out and profiled as inherently more dangerous or likely to commit crimes. That would be a good interpretation. But that is not consistent with protesting career criminals getting killed fighting with police. That's what kills white people. Getting killed doing something dangerous (being a career criminal fighting with police) is not racist. It's dangerous for everybody. And demanding police be defunded or abolished for everybody --- even when crime is rising --- is not asking for equal treatment. It's campaigning for chaos and mayhem. They are campaigning for criminals and criminal activity. And against protection for law abiding people. I don't know enough about this particular subject to comment. You will hear different things from different people about what they mean by "defund" the police. They have every right to be angry though, especially when the media specifically highlights the black victims of police brutality.
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Post by movieliker on Dec 2, 2020 0:47:27 GMT
That would be a good interpretation. But that is not consistent with protesting career criminals getting killed fighting with police. That's what kills white people. Getting killed doing something dangerous (being a career criminal fighting with police) is not racist. It's dangerous for everybody. And demanding police be defunded or abolished for everybody --- even when crime is rising --- is not asking for equal treatment. It's campaigning for chaos and mayhem. They are campaigning for criminals and criminal activity. And against protection for law abiding people. I don't know enough about this particular subject to comment. You will hear different things from different people about what they mean by "defund" the police. They have every right to be angry though, especially when the media specifically highlights the black victims of police brutality. Most of the poster children for Black Lives Matter were not victims of police brutality. They were career criminals fighting with police. Allegations of racism is no excuse for being a criminal, running from police, fighting with police, or resisting arrest.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 2, 2020 0:55:56 GMT
I don't know enough about this particular subject to comment. You will hear different things from different people about what they mean by "defund" the police. They have every right to be angry though, especially when the media specifically highlights the black victims of police brutality. Most of the poster children for Black Lives Matter were not victims of police brutality. They were career criminals fighting with police. Allegations of racism is no excuse for being a criminal, running from police, fighting with police, or resisting arrest. Eh, George Floyd is the main one and he was murdered.
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Post by movieliker on Dec 2, 2020 1:00:30 GMT
Most of the poster children for Black Lives Matter were not victims of police brutality. They were career criminals fighting with police. Allegations of racism is no excuse for being a criminal, running from police, fighting with police, or resisting arrest. Eh, George Floyd is the main one and he was murdered. No. George Floyd was one of the last. Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Alton Sterling were all protested replete with riots and violence. Black Lives Matter supports criminals, criminal activity, public disorder and violence. All their protests include rioting, smashing windows, looting, setting fires, and violence. Law abiding black people have little are no problem with police. It's the criminals who don't want to take responsibility for their heinous crimes that Black Lives Matter represents.
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