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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 29, 2020 4:35:36 GMT
Hardly anyone talks about that movie anymore, which makes it hard to believe that a little more than 10 years ago, it was the talk of the town. Quality of the movie aside, at what point exactly did people just stop caring? It couldn’t have been when it left theaters, because the Blu-rays and DVDs sold really well, and the thing was being parodied quite a bit by works such as Robot Chicken.
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Post by janntosh on Nov 29, 2020 4:38:08 GMT
Because people liked it for the visuals and 3D. On the small screen it loses its luster
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 29, 2020 4:39:56 GMT
Because people liked it for the visuals and 3D. On the small screen it loses its luster I wasn’t asking why it happened.
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Post by ck100 on Nov 29, 2020 4:42:41 GMT
It will come back into the collective when the sequels come out.
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Post by onethreetwo on Nov 29, 2020 4:47:47 GMT
Probably when everyone bought the DVD and realized that they were never actually going to watch the DVD, or watched it once and never again. It's a really bad movie. It takes effort to keep a movie in the public conscience. There's nothing in it for us to do so. There are no good memories or nostalgia to drive us. There is no desire to revist it. It is notorious for one small moment in history. That's it.
To answer your question, very shortly after the DVD release. Probably a year or two after that.
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Post by ck100 on Nov 29, 2020 4:53:24 GMT
I still like the movie and think it's good overall.  Though Cameron should have made the sequels much sooner. I don't like how these Avatar sequels are all he wants to do now and that he gives them priority over getting The Abyss and True Lies on Blu-ray. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 29, 2020 4:57:18 GMT
I saw it on a small tv. It did impress for its spfx scenes but the story didn't.
Everything about the film was focused on the 3d and technology.
I think a lot of films are sharing that fate though--Avengers, Black Panther...30 or more years ago, a movie would grow in reputation. Nowadays it's the opposite. The film opens big with all the promotion and then loses it over time.
I was listening to an audio commentary for an early 70s movie and they mentioned how little promotion the films got in the press--Hammer, Amicus, and yet how much their popularity had grown.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 29, 2020 5:21:17 GMT
2D home viewing took some wind out of its sails for me.
B+ from me, yet its length keeps it from many re-watches. It was an exceptional 3D game changer from Cameron & remains a technical marvel.
I do think since it has all but remained the platinum standard for 3D, that aspect of the industry hasn't fazed its legacy proper.
On the bright side, it did seem to navigate around most Phantom Menace sized blockbuster backlash/hype fatigue. Its sequel news has become a 21st century meme, but that's pretty harmless.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 29, 2020 7:28:23 GMT
The weird thing about Avatar is that I've never met anyone who passionately liked it, yet it had the support to not only beat Titanic, but get its own theme park.
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Post by hi224 on Nov 29, 2020 7:54:54 GMT
Hardly anyone talks about that movie anymore, which makes it hard to believe that a little more than 10 years ago, it was the talk of the town. Quality of the movie aside, at what point exactly did people just stop caring? It couldn’t have been when it left theaters, because the Blu-rays and DVDs sold really well, and the thing was being parodied quite a bit by works such as Robot Chicken. when special effects caught up.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Nov 29, 2020 11:04:48 GMT
I never liked the movie.
I found it to be a pretty forgettable and overrated movie, the only thing i remember 11 years later is that it had blue alien`s in it.
I have seen it once in 2009 at the cinema.
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Post by jonesjxd on Nov 29, 2020 12:00:45 GMT
It faded quickly because movies still need heart and humanity, and that can only be achieved with flesh and blood actors. Terminator, Aliens, T2, True Lies and Titanic are some of the most ambitious, well crafted adventure movies ever made, but they are what they are because of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Michael Beihn, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bill Paxton, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslett. Cameron dumped every dollar and ounce of ambition into Avatar, but he didn't allow the humanity to shine through, instead we get uncanny valley renditions of Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana. The movie was immediately eclipsed by the Avengers movies, Star Wars movies and Jurassic World movies, because they had characters and stars people remember and like revisiting.
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Post by Ransom on Nov 29, 2020 12:42:00 GMT
It faded quickly because movies still need heart and humanity, and that can only be achieved with flesh and blood actors. Terminator, Aliens, T2, True Lies and Titanic are some of the most ambitious, well crafted adventure movies ever made, but they are what they are because of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Michael Beihn, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bill Paxton, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslett. Cameron dumped every dollar and ounce of ambition into Avatar, but he didn't allow the humanity to shine through, instead we get uncanny valley renditions of Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana. The movie was immediately eclipsed by the Avengers movies, Star Wars movies and Jurassic World movies, because they had characters and stars people remember and like revisiting. Stephen Lang's character was far from forgettable. It wasn't a bad movie. I think some people just aren't up to the task of being transported to another world via cinema their imagination is rather limited. When they see blue people onscreen they just can't cope. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 29, 2020 17:39:46 GMT
About halfway through the movie, for me
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 29, 2020 22:20:26 GMT
It hasn’t or we need to define what the heck a collective is.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 29, 2020 22:23:14 GMT
It hasn’t or we need to define what the heck a collective is. It means the general public. People in general don’t seem to remember or care much about the movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 29, 2020 22:25:59 GMT
The only real special thing about the movie as far as the majority is concerned is the greatness of the technical aspects of the movie and these days that is old news.
I don't really even see people talk about Gravity anymore and that movie was also huge deal at the time.
I am personally a big fan of Avatar and it has never left my memory. It is a hugely entertaining and beautiful looking movie.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 29, 2020 22:28:00 GMT
I still like the movie and think it's good overall. Though Cameron should have made the sequels much sooner. I don't like how these Avatar sequels are all he wants to do now and that he gives them priority over getting The Abyss and True Lies on Blu-ray. I feel the same way. If he was serious this should have been done by 2012, 2013. Maybe 2015 at the latest. |
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Post by moviemouth on Nov 29, 2020 22:33:25 GMT
It faded quickly because movies still need heart and humanity, and that can only be achieved with flesh and blood actors. Terminator, Aliens, T2, True Lies and Titanic are some of the most ambitious, well crafted adventure movies ever made, but they are what they are because of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Michael Beihn, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bill Paxton, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslett. Cameron dumped every dollar and ounce of ambition into Avatar, but he didn't allow the humanity to shine through, instead we get uncanny valley renditions of Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana. The movie was immediately eclipsed by the Avengers movies, Star Wars movies and Jurassic World movies, because they had characters and stars people remember and like revisiting. Stephen Lang's character was far from forgettable. It wasn't a bad movie. I think some people just aren't up to the task of being transported to another world via cinema their imagination is rather limited. When they see blue people onscreen they just can't cope. The main issue is that it is a complete rip-off of other movies. There is really nothing original about any aspect of the story. It might seem extremely creative if you have never watched Ferngully or any Hayao Miyazaki movies. The reason I am completely okay with this is because the story is still effective regardless and the live-action/cgi world-building is fully immersive. It is an extremely well made movie from a technical standpoint. The best way to describe Avatar is...Ferngully: The Awesome James Cameron version.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 30, 2020 0:31:16 GMT
I still like the movie and think it's good overall. Though Cameron should have made the sequels much sooner. I don't like how these Avatar sequels are all he wants to do now and that he gives them priority over getting The Abyss and True Lies on Blu-ray. I feel the same way. If he was serious this should have been done by 2012, 2013. Maybe 2015 at the latest. The sequels seem to be taking so long precisely because he is serious about them. He’s really trying to push these movies as being of the next level of film technology, and has apparently been spending all these years trying to perfect the technology being used. The same thing sort of happened with the first one. The script for the first one was written back in the 90s.
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