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Post by darksidebeadle on Dec 11, 2020 10:08:55 GMT
Pick your favourite villain role from this real life villain
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Post by marth on Dec 11, 2020 10:35:34 GMT
Enemy of the State
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Post by politicidal on Dec 11, 2020 15:02:09 GMT
Anaconda. The Academy overlooked him during awards season.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 11, 2020 15:27:14 GMT
Anaconda.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 11, 2020 17:17:29 GMT
Enemy of the State
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Post by darksidebeadle on Dec 12, 2020 3:40:07 GMT
Mission: impossible
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Post by jcush on Dec 12, 2020 3:42:55 GMT
Anaconda
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 12, 2020 3:46:46 GMT
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 12, 2020 5:10:36 GMT
The Rainmaker
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Dec 12, 2020 10:01:05 GMT
Anaconda
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Post by Captain Spencer on Dec 12, 2020 14:09:33 GMT
Runaway Train
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Dec 12, 2020 14:49:10 GMT
Oh yeah, I just re-watched that solid film earlier this week, and probably the best performance by Voight, Roberts and John P. Ryan as well, in a very gritty and paceful survival-action adventure, unlike most others I have visited, and surely one of the best films The Cannon Films Group put out during the 80s. But after having just seen the documentary (Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films) about its producers, Menahem Golan and Yorum Globus, it seems like even if the film got nominated for several big awards (probably won a few as well), and won over the critics, it still missed out on finding a larger audience, mostly because of the poor reputation that Cannon seemed to get back then, as nothing more than "a big b-movie studio" specializing in "trashier" films, rather than great ones. But then again, this was never gonna turn out as yet another big box office draw, as there are no signs of any heroic or patriotic characters to be seen, just a small bunch of desperate and not exactly the most "likeable" guys to go with. Still, a great and very well made/acted movie, that features some incredible acting and scenes: I love these explosive moments, where he rages and is hell bent upon taking everybody with him, on a first class ticket to hell, yet the most impressive or those that I felt stood out the best, are when Manny has kind of accepted his destiny, and sits in almost silence, trying to pass on a bit of wisdom, from a long and hard life, towards his much younger "sidekick", and yeah, well deserved nominations for the both om them.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Dec 12, 2020 15:40:57 GMT
Oh yeah, I just re-watched that solid film earlier this week, and probably the best performance by Voight, Roberts and John P. Ryan as well, in a very gritty and paceful survival-action adventure, unlike most others I have visited, and surely one of the best films The Cannon Films Group put out during the 80s. But after having just seen the documentary (Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films) about its producers, Menahem Golan and Yorum Globus, it seems like even if the film got nominated for several big awards (probably won a few as well), and won over the critics, it still missed out on finding a larger audience, mostly because of the poor reputation that Cannon seemed to get back then, as nothing more than "a big b-movie studio" specializing in "trashier" films, rather than great ones. But then again, this was never gonna turn out as yet another big box office draw, as there are no signs of any heroic or patriotic characters to be seen, just a small bunch of desperate and not exactly the most "likeable" guys to go with. Still, a great and very well made/acted movie, that features some incredible acting and scenes: I love these explosive moments, where he rages and is hell bent upon taking everybody with him, on a first class ticket to hell, yet the most impressive or those that I felt stood out the best, are when Manny has kind of accepted his destiny, and sits in almost silence, trying to pass on a bit of wisdom, from a long and hard life, towards his much younger "sidekick", and yeah, well deserved nominations for the both om them. Yes, Cannon put out a lot of assembly line crap, some of it good, much of it not-so-good, but Runaway Train was head-and-shoulders above of the bunch. Arguably the best Cannon movie, in fact, due to them breaking the mold by providing plenty of grit and having no actual heroes. In the 80s, an action movie had to have these flag-waving macho heroes, but Runaway Train had none of that; like you said, they were desparate characters. Even John P. Ryan's cop wasn't all that likeable. Kudos to Cannon for thinking outside the box. I should also point out that Runaway Train is getting a blu-ray release from Kino Lorber on March 16th.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Dec 12, 2020 15:52:58 GMT
Yes, Cannon put out a lot of assembly line crap, some of it good, much of it not-so-good, but Runaway Train was head-and-shoulders above of the bunch. Arguably the best Cannon movie, in fact, due to them breaking the mold by providing plenty of grit and having no actual heroes. In the 80s, an action movie had to have these flag-waving macho heroes, but Runaway Train had none of that; like you said, they were desparate characters. Even John P. Ryan's cop wasn't all that likeable. Kudos to Cannon for thinking outside the box. I should also point out that Runaway Train is getting a blu-ray release from Kino Lorber on March 16th. No, he sure was not. I think early on, we kind of get to know what kind of guy this is, where some fat inmate, tries to intimidate him, by saying some bad stuff of his mother, and the very moment Ranken stops, and then turns his attention to this overweight and loud-mothed prisoner, all tough "safely" behind bars, the guy just rapidly disappears back into the dark, as a frightened little sewer rat, and one realizes just how cruel and sadistic Ranken very likely runs his "business", and where the only worthy opponent he has, is through that of old Manny. Another great scene, with John P. Ryan, is when some mouthy desk clerk, starts to shout at him "GET OF MY BACK, WOMAN!" of course, he do not realize that Ranken suddenly stands behind him, next scene, they meet up again, now in the bathroom, and yeah, Ranken was pure evil, but I am glad Manny got him front seat, so he could "enjoy" their final ride together, on the train. Have two copies of the film on DVD, but one of those films I should probably upgrade to Blu-ray, as I would be very interested in what they might include as bonus material.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Dec 12, 2020 18:08:53 GMT
Even with having seen Most Wanted or Runaway Train, this is so tough!
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 12, 2020 19:25:35 GMT
Oh yeah, I just re-watched that solid film earlier this week, and probably the best performance by Voight, Roberts and John P. Ryan as well, in a very gritty and paceful survival-action adventure, unlike most others I have visited, and surely one of the best films The Cannon Films Group put out during the 80s. But after having just seen the documentary (Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films) about its producers, Menahem Golan and Yorum Globus, it seems like even if the film got nominated for several big awards (probably won a few as well), and won over the critics, it still missed out on finding a larger audience, mostly because of the poor reputation that Cannon seemed to get back then, as nothing more than "a big b-movie studio" specializing in "trashier" films, rather than great ones. But then again, this was never gonna turn out as yet another big box office draw, as there are no signs of any heroic or patriotic characters to be seen, just a small bunch of desperate and not exactly the most "likeable" guys to go with. Still, a great and very well made/acted movie, that features some incredible acting and scenes: I love these explosive moments, where he rages and is hell bent upon taking everybody with him, on a first class ticket to hell, yet the most impressive or those that I felt stood out the best, are when Manny has kind of accepted his destiny, and sits in almost silence, trying to pass on a bit of wisdom, from a long and hard life, towards his much younger "sidekick", and yeah, well deserved nominations for the both om them. Runaway Train is a very good movie and his performance is far superior to Anaconda, but his villain in Anaconda is more of a traditional antagonist villain. He is the main character in Runaway Train, so that is why I chose Anaconda.
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