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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 11, 2020 15:15:42 GMT
Which one of these groups of players would you want the most? Assume all are in their primes at the same time, and you must play the full set of players. Players are listed as QB, RB, WR 1, WR 2 (or TE).
Discuss.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 11, 2020 15:17:18 GMT
McNabbs
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 11, 2020 15:19:49 GMT
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 11, 2020 16:39:52 GMT
Which of the fifteen iterations of Mike Williamses are we talking about?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 11, 2020 17:23:32 GMT
Which of the fifteen iterations of Mike Williamses are we talking about? The shitty Lions one. There’s only one shitty Lion one right? |
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 11, 2020 17:33:53 GMT
Which of the fifteen iterations of Mike Williamses are we talking about? The shitty Lions one. There’s only one shitty Lion one right? Looking it up . . . There was a Mike Williams who went to Syracuse and played primarily for Tampa Bay from 2010 to 2013. Had 11 (!) touchdowns as a rookie and 23 over his first three years - - and then was out of the league at 27 after one year in Buffalo. There was a Mike Williams who went to USC and was one of the unending first round receivers the Lions chose. He was shitty - - 5 touchdowns in his whole career (2005-2011 with two years out of football in 2008 and 2009). Then there is current Clemson/Chargers Mike Williams. And that's only the receiving Mike Williamses. But, yeah, the one you chose makes that grouping much less desirable.
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Post by hehatesshe on Dec 11, 2020 17:40:03 GMT
Manning - Bush is overpowered for this poll.
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 11, 2020 17:41:09 GMT
Gotta say - - you did a great job with this. And I spent way too much time with it.
I ultimately went with Stafford, but it was close versus Manning, McNabb, and Dalton. Couldn't go with the super crappy QBs (Tebow, Boller, Russell) and couldn't do Brady because his skill position guys are too awful.
I'm also disappointed that we haven't had a murdering quarterback yet.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 11, 2020 17:43:51 GMT
Manning - Bush is overpowered for this poll. Bush isn’t bad, but the receivers I picked for Manning aren’t great. You gonna hand off to Reggie 30 times a game? |
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Post by hehatesshe on Dec 11, 2020 17:49:28 GMT
Manning - Bush is overpowered for this poll. Bush isn’t bad, but the receivers I picked for Manning aren’t great. You gonna hand off to Reggie 30 times a game? I'd just throw it to him until they tried to take him away. Then throw in jet sweeps with Bey and sweet Peyton Manning play-action fakes to wide open receivers/TEs.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 11, 2020 17:55:54 GMT
Bush isn’t bad, but the receivers I picked for Manning aren’t great. You gonna hand off to Reggie 30 times a game? I'd just throw it to him until they tried to take him away. Then throw in jet sweeps with Bey and sweet Peyton Manning play-action fakes to wide open receivers/TEs. If Bey and Williams are your starting WRs then you have to assume your third - fifth WRs are worse. None of them are getting “wide open” against even an average defense. |
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 11, 2020 17:58:37 GMT
I'd just throw it to him until they tried to take him away. Then throw in jet sweeps with Bey and sweet Peyton Manning play-action fakes to wide open receivers/TEs. If Bey and Williams are your starting WRs then you have to assume your third - fifth WRs are worse. None of them are getting “wide open” against even an average defense. Who's the coach? If Kyle Shanahan is calling plays with Peyton, yes they are getting open.
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Post by hehatesshe on Dec 11, 2020 18:00:45 GMT
I'd just throw it to him until they tried to take him away. Then throw in jet sweeps with Bey and sweet Peyton Manning play-action fakes to wide open receivers/TEs. If Bey and Williams are your starting WRs then you have to assume your third - fifth WRs are worse. None of them are getting “wide open” against even an average defense.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Dec 11, 2020 18:03:41 GMT
Tom Brady went to three Super Bowls and won two of them with Chris Hogan as a starting receiver.
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 11, 2020 18:07:16 GMT
Tom Brady went to three Super Bowls and won two of them with Chris Hogan as a starting receiver. He also had some guys named Plonkowski and Endleman or something.
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Post by hehatesshe on Dec 11, 2020 18:11:49 GMT
Tom Brady went to three Super Bowls and won two of them with Chris Hogan as a starting receiver. But he needs *something.* Or else you get last year's meh 11 wins and meh playoff appearance. Granted, if you substitute a different, possibly former MVP quarterback, in place of Brady on that exact team, you might be looking at a 6-7 record through 13 games, or something like that. But Brady needs something.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Dec 11, 2020 18:12:59 GMT
Tom Brady went to three Super Bowls and won two of them with Chris Hogan as a starting receiver. He also had some guys named Plonkowski and Endleman or something. No he didn't. Edelman missed the entire 2017 season with an ACL. Super Bowl. Gronk only played in 8 games in 2016 and missed the entire post season. Greatest comeback in Super Bowl history.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 11, 2020 18:13:08 GMT
If Bey and Williams are your starting WRs then you have to assume your third - fifth WRs are worse. None of them are getting “wide open” against even an average defense. Who's the coach? If Kyle Shanahan is calling plays with Peyton, yes they are getting open. If Bill Walsh is the genius end of the coaching scale and Hue Jackson or Adam Gase is the other end, assume someone in the middle for all teams. Mariucci? Jeff Fisher? |
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 11, 2020 18:14:57 GMT
He also had some guys named Plonkowski and Endleman or something. No he didn't. Edelman missed the entire 2017 season with an ACL. Super Bowl. Gronk only played in 8 games in 2016 and missed the entire post season. Greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. Sorry, got their names wrong. Did Edelman or Gronk play in the two Super Bowls that Brady won with this Hogan fellow?
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Post by ReyKahuka on Dec 11, 2020 18:35:48 GMT
No he didn't. Edelman missed the entire 2017 season with an ACL. Super Bowl. Gronk only played in 8 games in 2016 and missed the entire post season. Greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. Sorry, got their names wrong. Did Edelman or Gronk play in the two Super Bowls that Brady won with this Hogan fellow? Gronk didn't play in SB 51, where they came back to win from down 25 late in the 3rd quarter. Edelman played in SB 51 and 53. Brady threw for 505 yds and 3 TDs (128 yds and 1 TD to Hogan!) in Edelman's absence in SB 52. So I guess Edelman is actually the reason Brady was great? Where are we going here?
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